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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA: We are NOT Amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 09/11/2004 9:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Open Letter to the Main Stream Media: We are not amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

We have watched you for years try to tell us how to think, what to think, who to vote for and what to believe based solely on your own agenda. In past years, you have come to think of yourselves as the fourth branch of government, the movers and shapers of opinion and the arbiters of truth.

In case you have not been watching, America is sick and tired of you. We are turning away from you in record numbers. Your audience and readership is declining faster than you can say the word 'bias', and instead of recognizing the trend, you have only become further entrenched and determined to force society to play by your rules.

Technology has allowed us to ignore you, and in many cases, replace you altogether. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite every night, not yet aware of his agenda, his bias and his overwhelming desire to turn the nation against its leaders unless they agreed with him. I saw him replaced by the most dishonest, agenda-driven anchorman this nation has ever produced. That Dan Rather is one of you should be enough to make you feel dirty.

You believe yourselves to be solely qualified to pontificate on the day-to-day events going on around the world as if journalism school gives you a special insight into the truth. When I was in college, people went to J-school only if they flunked out of business school and did not want to become teachers.

Well guess what?

The world is on to you.

Persons with knowledge and experience are not only ignoring you, but replacing you as sources of information. These sources, which don't need anything but their personal experiences and skills when sharing information with the public; persons who have spent more time learning and doing than you ever will, are generally more accurate and informative than you know how to be.

The Internet and Blogosphere would scare you, if you were smart enough or honest enough to know better.

People with practical knowledge and experience discussing current and historical events with more ability than you, are sharing more factual and in-depth information, and at a rate which you could never compete. We are relegating many of you to overpaid gossip mongers, while you don't want to acknowledge that we are eating your lunch.

You take polls, trying to convince us of what people are thinking as you have always done, but now, knowledgeable people are analyzing your methodology, your weighing and sampling and pointing out if your polls are to be believed. You can no longer expect what you say to be taken for gospel, because we are no longer amateurs about information. Someone, somewhere on a little web site is going to smoke you out, report your biases, and make you less believable than you once were. Count on it.

You can tell us that Swift Boat Veterans for truth are liars, and NOBODY is going to believe you just because you say it. Have you checked the Non Fiction Best Sellers lists lately? But even then, we know enough now to notice when book sales are based on giveaways, fund-raisers, pre-orders and the like, to notice when you want to push sales of your favorite liberal author when their book sheds no light, tells no truth, shares no facts, but only advances what you want us all to think about you and yours. We are not buying it anymore.

I'm writing this, because I know you are watching. Just as you watched last week when one of us 'amateurs' beat you at your own game. It happens here all the time. Free Republic is not a group of 'amateurs' or nutcases, as you like to think of us. This board is a slice of America, filled with people from all walks of life, whose cumulative knowledge dwarfs that of you and your 'hired experts'. I was offended to read your reaction to people here and at the Blogs who shared what started here regarding your fraudulent flunky Dan Rather, and his attempt to pass off what was clearly a forged document as legitimate news.

You attempted to deride us, not take us seriously, dismiss us as partisans (which is apparently only a bad thing if one is conservative) and generally ignore the wealth of information we passed along to the public about one of yours trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We nailed Dan Rather, not you, and you can't stand it.

Last week, you tried to suggest that Republicans booed Bill Clinton after Bush wished him well. We caught you. We got in your face and made you take it back, because you lied. Don't you hate that? We Internet-based losers made you back down, when you felt totally free to mislead the nation about the behavior of some you don't agree with.

It is only going to get worse for you.

You can no longer tell us anything, and expect to be believed without question. You can no longer mix your agendas into your 'news' and expect to get away with it. We may not catch you every time, but eventually we will, and then many of you are going to have to get real jobs. And when you do, you are going to need more than the ability to mislead, lie, slander and ignore people who don't agree with you. In the future, expect for Blogs like Instapundit and others to be on you like a fly on stink when you attempt to mislead us.

Yesterday, you attempted to paint the young LT. Bush as a poor pilot, because he attempted multiple landings a few times while flying a training jet. Stories like this are the reason why Network News has lost half of its audience over the last 10 years. Could not one of you pampered info-princes figure out that a military pilot WANTS to practice landings as much has he/she possibly can? I guess not, when you are blinded by ideology to the degree that any information you receive can only be interpreted in the negative.

You want to call Bush AWOL, but you don't want to talk about his hundreds of flying hours in a jet that has killed lesser aviators, you only want to discuss what furthers your agenda, because you know that when Democrats win, YOU are in charge. You don't want to talk about our President's Master's Degree from Harvard while at the same time Al Gore could not hack Divinity school.

Don't you wish you could regulate us? We know you spend your nights praying to the gods of the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence us. Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere. Too bad we can't say the same for you. It is you who is being silenced as your audience is paying more attention to us, and tuning you OUT. Fox News is in 50 million fewer homes, but they managed to beat you silly during the Republican Convention. How did that happen? US; that's how. Because of us, the Internet, the Blogosphere, Talk Radio and others, the nation no longer see you as the gatekeepers of information.

Take a lesson MSM, though it hurts, try a little fairness. Give balance a shot, and stop being a mouthpiece for the liberal agenda. Pretend if you must, that Conservatives are not Neanderthals long enough to get through a news segment. I know it must hurt to not be able to prove your superiority to us in all that you do and say, but try it.

Finally, just embrace the horror, folks. You might actually learn something from us merry bands of 'amateur' journalists. You see, we don't have an audience to please. We don't have to sell ad-space, or get face-lifts to keep our jobs. That leaves us free to share information on the subjects we might know a little something about without angering our liberal masters. On Free Republic, you can at times find as many threads angry at Republicans as you can Democrats. We don't have to hire experts, if we don't know something, we can ask a fellow FReeper or use Google, much faster than you can pay someone to tell you what you want to hear.

On Free Republic alone, there are experts in many fields. We have writers, poets, engineers, aviators, artists, journalists, (they keep that on the down-low), lawyers, historians, teachers, politicians, current and former members of all branches of the military; all who actually know what they are talking about without having a script (or DNC talking points) shoved in their face.

The choice is yours, MSM. You can join us in working to share information with a hungry audience, or you can be replaced. We don't need Nielson, just a web site and an idea. Instead of insulting the remainder of your dwindling viewers, readers and listeners, why don't you just agree to cut the crap, stop the parroting of the NY Times long enough to do your own work, and finally decide to become REAL journalists again.

I'm not saying we are journalists; we have jobs and careers beyond 'he-said-she-said'. We do like to share what we know, and we don't even get it right every time. However, the truth is in the numbers. We have them and they are growing, while yours are shrinking more rapidly every day. If you don't change your ways and soon, you are going to become irrelevant before this decade is over. Many of you already are. We only tune in to 'Petah' Jennings to watch him bravely strain to keep his composure whenever he has to report a Democrat election defeat. On a good night Chris Matthews total viewership barely equals the number of viewers on the Oxygen network.

The trends are in our favor. If you don't wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.

I'm Pukin Dog.


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To: Pukin Dog

Great thinks PD! Here's hoping the Old Media is gasping it's last....

Prairie


701 posted on 09/12/2004 2:14:23 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

OH-YEA! WTG PD! Give em hell son!


702 posted on 09/12/2004 2:21:55 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (G W B 2004! Friends Don't Let Friends Vote For DemocRATS)
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To: Mr. K

ambien --made by SS
FROGS--what do you expect
Carry on


703 posted on 09/12/2004 2:23:48 PM PDT by LittleMoe
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To: Pukin Dog

YEEEEARRGGghhhh..... Oh, sorry, wrong rant... EXCELLENT POST!!! I love it!!


704 posted on 09/12/2004 2:31:00 PM PDT by lilmsdangrus
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To: Pukin Dog

Best rant I've heard in quite a while. With all their defensiveness, this might just grow legs.

Good Job!


705 posted on 09/12/2004 2:34:24 PM PDT by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: Pukin Dog
Now that was a serious screed... I guarantee..
Too bad the intended victim of it could care less...
706 posted on 09/12/2004 3:05:32 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Pukin Dog
Pukin Dog.

Good boy.
707 posted on 09/12/2004 3:08:16 PM PDT by GirlShortstop ( O sublime humility! That the Lord... should humble Himself like this... )
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To: Pukin Dog

Rant?
PD, that reads more like a well thought out article AND political essay!
I don't see a rant in there!
Excellent read, thanks!


708 posted on 09/12/2004 3:19:02 PM PDT by Darksheare (CBS: Arrogance and Hubris personified)
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To: Pukin Dog

Well sir - you have four years to sort out your platform, your cabinet, your advisors and your money raising crew - because someone is gonna nominate you for President in 2008!

The first internet-elected president, spending the least amount of "public money" to spread lies against the opponent. No huge collections of money to bilge up the media coffers - nothing for any of them.

Nope - just Mr. Robinson's internet solution to the problems of this country - and the truth from the wisdom of the members here and of other sites throughout the country and the world.

After what I have been watching here, it is possible. Think on it y'hear?

We'll chip in for some glam jams for ya too.


709 posted on 09/12/2004 3:29:53 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: Slings and Arrows

I've seen that before; but since then I've got Comcast high-speed and a wireless router so I guess I could spring for a "laptop>" :>)


710 posted on 09/12/2004 3:40:59 PM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: reformedliberal; Pukin Dog

Thanks for the defense, both of you.

Sorry I struck a nerve with some folks. I'm thinking of my parents and elderly neighbors, all of whom watch network news exclusively. This despite my admonishments to them! LOL


711 posted on 09/12/2004 3:43:51 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: All

This is probably old news to most of the experienced members here, but I was noochin around for CBS stuff and Mel Karmazin in particular...found his "declared" political contributions.

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?first=Mel&last=Karmazin&st=

He's the COO or CEO of Viacom (CBS parent). Definitely a democratic supporter. Must be nice having a whole broadcast network in your pocket when you are political party.

The only republican was John McCain and that was probably Don Imus' influence.


712 posted on 09/12/2004 3:51:22 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: Mr. K
Here is contact info for some of the companies that sponsor CBS
Have at 'em
viagra...

Viagra says that they will stand up with Dan to the end.

713 posted on 09/12/2004 4:13:06 PM PDT by Ghengis
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To: Mr. K
Another, larger list, with links to consumer comments forms.
714 posted on 09/12/2004 4:19:50 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Pukin Dog

Well done! (Big Clap) Couldn't have said it better myself. Go gettim' P. Dog! You do it so well.


715 posted on 09/12/2004 4:26:20 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Pukin Dog

Forgive the rant, please. Just venting.

&&

Forgive the rant? Heck, Dog, you rule!! Rant on, myt friend.


716 posted on 09/12/2004 4:54:41 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Ciexyz
JF Kerry and his pukin' diary of heroics

After listening to Kerry, you would have thought he could whipped them commies single handed and we'd won that war.

Still what bothers me the most is what he did when he got out. The communist were the ones committing those atrocities he described.

717 posted on 09/12/2004 4:56:41 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-za)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm glad someone let the dog out!

Amen, Pukin Dog


718 posted on 09/12/2004 5:21:38 PM PDT by bear11 ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Pukin Dog

Zell? Is that you?


719 posted on 09/12/2004 5:26:35 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Anal sex is not a family value!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Most informative Rant I have ever enjoyed. Actually more professionally done than a MSM rant they call news.


720 posted on 09/12/2004 6:17:20 PM PDT by Xcoastie (It is more difficult to organize peace than to win a war - Aristotle)
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To: Pukin Dog

Most informative Rant I have ever enjoyed. Actually more professionally done than a MSM rant they call news.


721 posted on 09/12/2004 6:17:21 PM PDT by Xcoastie (It is more difficult to organize peace than to win a war - Aristotle)
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To: Pukin Dog

That was beautiful...(sniffle)


722 posted on 09/12/2004 6:24:37 PM PDT by uncitizen (Beware of fertilizer salesmen and their lawyers. They'll both try to sell you a load of crap.)
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To: Missouri
Still what bothers me the most is what he (Kerry) did when he got out.

In "Unfit for Command", the authors describe how Kerry visited a wounded officer stateside in his hospital bed. The officer is flabberghasted to see Kerry, can't believe he's back home so quick. And what does Kerry do? He tries to recruit this wounded hero for VVAW! Unbe-LIEV-able!

723 posted on 09/12/2004 7:13:30 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand".)
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To: All
Everyone, thank you. I am honored by all of your comments regarding this thread. I hope it gets spread around far and wide.

Pukin Dog.
724 posted on 09/12/2004 7:18:01 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: wisconsinconservative

bookmark


725 posted on 09/12/2004 7:19:10 PM PDT by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: Pukin Dog
Bravo. Just love it. Edit for brevity the send it to every news outlet in the land. I hope you use your real name. A piece like that deserves recognition. YOU deserve recognition for writing it.

Thank you,
Anne
726 posted on 09/12/2004 7:20:34 PM PDT by N. Beaujon (sera@ix.netcom.com (So who's going to start mass mailing Mr. Newcombers work to CBS?))
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent, excellent letter.... go getum!!!


727 posted on 09/12/2004 7:23:17 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pukin Dog
I am going to share this I hope you don't mind this may be the new "george carlin angry American"

RB<><
728 posted on 09/12/2004 7:34:12 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'm mad as Zell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!)
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To: Pukin Dog
The trends are in our favor. If you don't wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.

Ha ha ha. YEAH, man!
729 posted on 09/12/2004 7:35:43 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: mhking

Bump! Link bookmarked. Thanks!


730 posted on 09/12/2004 7:59:25 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Pukin Dog
I think you're right. We've got them...

Oh, I think we ARE ready. We are watching them. There is no set up. Don't forget the kerning, curly apostrophes, text centering, and other aspects of the document that cannot have been produced on a typewriter. My browsing of various news services today, show a accepted determination of the documents being forgeries. I think its over for CBS. They have no choice but to back-peddle.

731 posted on 09/12/2004 8:22:22 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ

I pray to God you are right.


732 posted on 09/12/2004 8:30:59 PM PDT by Moomah
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To: Pukin Dog; Landru; bert
A most excellent rant that I almost missed. Wanted youse guys to have a look in case you may have missed it.

Give 'em hell PD!

FGS

733 posted on 09/12/2004 9:04:28 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Bravo!


734 posted on 09/12/2004 9:34:00 PM PDT by celtic gal (no RAT crap in my house, my GOP CAT keeps em out)
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To: mhking

bttt


735 posted on 09/13/2004 12:57:16 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Just brilliant PD!!! Middle of the night BTTT (From one with a job and not yet in those dreaded "pajamas").


736 posted on 09/13/2004 1:05:25 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Good rant. And we have physicians here too.

Don't forget about all of the "soccer Mom's" like me who have nothing better to do (while the kids are in school) than to sit around and keep an eye on all the Dan Blathers of the world. : )

737 posted on 09/13/2004 1:08:55 AM PDT by Thank God!!!
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Thank you! :^D

738 posted on 09/13/2004 2:38:47 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Forgive the rant, please. Just venting.

No forgiveness needed. I always enjoy your rants.

We don't have to hire experts, if we don't know something, we can ask a fellow FReeper or use Google, much faster than you can pay someone to tell you what you want to hear.

Pukin Dog '08. We need to start on the bumper stickers right away. ;o)

739 posted on 09/13/2004 2:42:08 AM PDT by Watery Tart (VRWPJC)
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To: Pukin Dog

Go you!


740 posted on 09/13/2004 3:45:41 AM PDT by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: Pukin Dog; All

An observation I've shared before, but IMHO, what sets FR apart is the real-time, interactive nature of news dissection that takes place here. I truly feel that this is the future of news reporting and analysis.

To explain a bit.....

Someone posts a thread from AP, UPI, Reuters, wherever....and immediately, you get feedback/analysis from a housewife in Des Moines, an engineer in Boston, a lawyer in Chicago, a hunting guide in Alaska, a former military pilot in Raleigh, a GI in Iraq, a professor in California, a programmer in Dallas; you get the idea. Almost instantly. What the retired general may miss in the story, a sharp-eyed interior designer in Atlanta catches. What some "expert" feeds the news outlet, our own collection of experts rips apart and reassembles.

It never ceases to amaze me the collection of talent on FR. I've been on this site for six years, and have yet to see a topic here that has stumped our rather amazing set of brainpower scattered about the globe. By the way, the international nature of this site is often overlooked; we have regulars and visitors from literally every corner of the planet.

It's this real-time, highly interactive analysis that truly sets us apart and scares the hell out of the MSM, I believe. They can't stand up to such close scrutiny, for their biases and inaccuracies are suddenly illuminated under numerous, very bright spotlights by sites like this.

....and there isn't a damned thing they can do about it.


741 posted on 09/13/2004 4:03:59 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline

Agree with entire post - you said it so well. The old method of "news" has become tainted and it is time to reassert some integrity into the methods of delivery so that we never fall into the hack mentality again ever.

The internet can succeed if allowed to flourish and as future writers become even more adept at research and questioning and curiosity.

You write: "....and there isn't a damned thing they can do about it."

My concern is that because of its accurately perceived success:

.... the United Nations, and certainly segments of the global governmental bureaucracy will do everything they can to seize control of the flow of information to the public....
fresh, innovative, researched, argued, up-front NEWS and INFORMATION.

We must protect the innocence and vitality of what we have, never to release its spontenaity to a controlling group, and in order to do this, we must ever strive to keep the internet and what we produce, always a quality product, with a goal of the highest standard.


742 posted on 09/13/2004 5:10:54 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: Pukin Dog

That was awesome! What you say is 100 percent on the money. I rarely watch the news on tv. When I do, it's my local Fox affiliate.


743 posted on 09/13/2004 5:17:48 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: arasina

"Monday Morning Media Madness" BTTT


744 posted on 09/13/2004 5:59:35 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: RightOnline
I agree with your post 100%.

There is simply no way for the MSM to compete with us. Our challenge is to make sure we get it right.
745 posted on 09/13/2004 7:07:05 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: imintrouble
We must protect the innocence and vitality of what we have, never to release its spontenaity to a controlling group, and in order to do this, we must ever strive to keep the internet and what we produce, always a quality product, with a goal of the highest standard.

Very well put. This is our challenge and goal.

746 posted on 09/13/2004 7:08:44 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Vent anytime you like. Job well done.


747 posted on 09/13/2004 7:14:39 AM PDT by brothers4thID (I have knocked on door of this man's soul- and found someone home.)
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To: Pukin Dog

God Damn that was beautiful.....lol

BOOKMARKED


748 posted on 09/13/2004 7:22:59 AM PDT by itssoamusing (Kerry's a punk B$#@H)
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To: itssoamusing
Thank you.
749 posted on 09/13/2004 7:25:32 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Well well....this thread may make history PD. Aside from the Texas Termite thread, this one is beginning to be the LONGEST running thread. You seem to have touched a nerve. I keep coming back to catch up. I've read every response so far. I made a hard copy of your "rant" to keep for posterity. I have a box full so my great-grandchildren will have access to real history if the controllers manage to shut us down. .......I'm not paranoid.....I'm not paranoid...


750 posted on 09/13/2004 7:56:53 AM PDT by WVNan
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