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Newsweek ^
| Sept. 20 issue
| Howard Fineman and Michael Isikoff
Posted on 09/12/2004 12:26:09 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
Sept. 20 issue - The rap on Mary Beth Cahill, ... is the wrong person to guide the fortunes of Sen. John Kerry during this hypernasty political season. Maybe so, but hers was among the first congratulatory calls Ben Barnes received ....
.....Where did the documents come from? CBS won't say. But the trail pieced together by NEWSWEEK shows that in a sulfurous season like this one, the difference between obscurity and power is small, and anyone can get a hearing. A principal source for CBS's story was Bill Burkett, a disgruntled former Guard officer who lives in Baird, Texas, who says he was present at Guard headquarters in Austin in 1997, when a top aide to the then Governor Bush ordered records sanitized to protect the Boss. Other Guard officials disputed Burkett's account, and the Bush aide involved, Joe Allbaugh, called it "absolute garbage." Burkett may have a motive to make trouble for the powers that be. In 1998, he grew gravely ill on a Guard mission to Panama, causing him to be hospitalized, and he suffered two nervous breakdowns. He unsuccessfully sued for medical expenses.
Still, in theory, Burkett may have had access to any Guard records that, in a friend's words, "didn't make it to the shredder." Fellow officers say he wasn't a crank, but rather a stickler for proper procedurea classic whistle-blower type. Burkett was impressive enough to cause CBS producer Mary Mapes to fly to Texas to interview him. "There are only a couple of guys I would trust to be as perfectly honest and upfront as Bill," says Dennis Adams, a former Guard colleague. The White House, through Communications Director Dan Bartlett, called Burkett a "discredited source." Indeed, Bush strategists are convincedor have convinced themselvesthat the issue will backfire on its purveyors...
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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: _Jim
And Bill Burkett is a Democratic Party shill and heavyweight wannabe. 2002 party chair race letters - http://www.geocities.com/stoutdem/bb525.html
2004 Dem candidate for Supreme Court Justice Van Os is/was his attorney against the Guard and Burkett is working faithfully on the current campaign.
http://www.vanosforsupremecourt.com/
What better way for Billy Boy to get Dem attention than pad the AWOL lie.
To: _Jim
Also, check out this quote from
calpundit:
Jim Moore, a longtime Texas reporter (and, granted, hardly a fan of Bush), has talked with Burkett extensively for a soon to be published book titled Bush's War For Reelection: Iraq, the White House, and the People. Moore emailed me that he finds Burkett "immensely credible."
So, who does Dan Rather have on CBS News to prop him on the fact that the documents are not forgeries? Jim Moore. Coincidence?
To: Howlin
And just across the Sabine River - out of the Louisiana swamps - there comes Carville
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posted on
09/12/2004 12:39:06 PM PDT
by
daybreakcoming
("U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?".....Zell Miller)
To: rootntootn
Not so. The American voting public needs to see the unlawful extremes that sKerry, the DNC and their lackeys in the MNM will stoop to in their attempt to get sKerry elected.
144
posted on
09/12/2004 1:25:01 PM PDT
by
RightWingConspirator
(Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
To: Mo1
Burkett is the guy some years ago that alleged Bush's records were "scrubbed" and in this scrubbing all the usual suspects or so just happened to let him witness it.
145
posted on
09/12/2004 1:37:03 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: PretzeLogic
146
posted on
09/12/2004 1:48:59 PM PDT
by
hobson
To: Anti-Bubba182
To: Anti-Bubba182
"(NEWSWEEK has a strategic partnership with NBC and MSNBC, two of CBS's rivals.)" The upside to all this is that CBS's lamesteam rivals are not so hesitant to smell blood in the water and take advantage of it.
148
posted on
09/12/2004 2:45:24 PM PDT
by
pollwatcher
(in Memory of the late, great Ted Cassidy (1932-1979) - a Kerry Impersonator well ahead of his time!)
To: Anti-Bubba182
"he suffered two nervous breakdowns."
An unimpeachable source?
GMAB
To: Thane_Banquo
This guy sounds like he is not mentally stable. In all honesty, how many on the vehement left have you met that weren't unstable? I sometimes wonder if the leftist policies and mantras attract the loons or if thinking Left simply drives them into instability.
To: Mo1
Here is a post about an exchange that I had with the Dallas Morning News about Burkett. The prime pusher for Burkett at the Dallas Morning News is
Wayne Slater, who co-wrote the book "Bush's Brain." Slater never has retracted his stupid story. He's one of Kerry's biggest supporters at the Dallas Morning News and few people there seem bothered by the rank partisanship of his "reporting."
To: Ophiucus
For what it is worth below are quotes from Burkett taken from the Timeswatch.org site who obtained it from a NYT article written by Blumenthal.
"I know GW Bush and his inner circle very well. As I said, a UN vote would not stop GW Bush from attacking Iraq. Nor will anything else. And weapons of mass destruction will be discovered in great quantities; but the entire affair will stink to high heavens because it will be as staged as the White House press conference you just viewed. The human death toll will publicly not be mentioned, yet in truth, it will far exceed 120,000
.Now I feel sickness that today another massive group of people, held worthless by this anointed king, will be trampled upon like grapes. But their blood will not be rendered into wine. It will be spilled into the sands of this desert or another, or on the streets of Washington, or in the halls of the US Congress, or in the courts
.We must now revert to the history of Europe to discern what to do. We must study the nemesis of France and how Napoleon was felled before understanding the damage a tyrant does to a nation and society. We must examine the ruthless and dictatorial rise of yet another of the three small men--one whose name is not spoken out of fear of reprisal, but his name was Adolf."
I believe this quote came after the last election and before the Iraq War. It surely indicates troubling thinking closely to akin to paranoid delusions; however, taken out of context no definitive statement can be made.
If Burkett plays a part in these memos, then the key to his reasoning is crucial to understand how and why he obtained these phoney documents.
To: shrinkermd
If Burkett plays a part in these memos, then the key to his reasoning is crucial to understand how and why he obtained these phoney documents. That is an excellent quote and I've only seen bits of it posted.
The reasoning is key. Not only the reasoning of what appears to be a clumsy forgery advanced as evidence but the reasoning in gleefully accepting the forgery and perpetrating it.
I think there is a mental imbalance of this camp.
To: Anti-Bubba182
E-Mail this story AND links to the media today.
John Kerry directly contributed to the lies of the anti war movement AND caused deaths and injuries
to US Military serving in Vietnam AND
directly caused deaths from injuries at home AND countless suicides because of his false testimony.
John Kerry is not fit to be elected dog catcher let alone President of the United States.
ANYONE who votes for Kerry AFTER knowing this data
is guilty of covering up John Kerry's war crimes!
John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War,
testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
April 22, 1971
KERRY GAVE TESTIMONY BASED UPON FALSE INFORMATION
THAT KERRY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME TO BE FALSE!
September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam. After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...
My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers.
-- Steve Pitkin, Winter Soldier Investigation, February 1, 1971.
E-Mail and/or fax these url's to EVERYONE ASAP! Kerry MUST be exposed NOW!
PUT PRESSURE ON THE MEDIA TO COVER THIS BEFORE NOV 2nd
Steve Pitkin Story
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=YesterdaysLies1
Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff
Steve Pitkin DD-214
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/PitkinDD214.jpg
Steve Pitkin WSI testimony
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinWSI
Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)
http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/pitkin2.wmv
John F. Kerry
Timeline of a traitor.
Click Here
http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html
Guide to Local MediaLocate media in your zip code, gives you links to YOUR local media with phone, e-mail etc info.
Free Internet Fax Service
Free E-Mail to Fax from your computer, just fill in form on page , they do the rest.
Make sure you enter fax # like this 12025551212 (no spaces or -)
Is the number you want them to SEND FREE FAX covered?
Complete list of areas they SEND FREE FAXES to
Kerry's disrespect in 1971 to USA Symbols Video
Windows Media .......... Real Player .......... Quick Time .......... AOL
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddams Defense
arabnews press release 25 August 2004
NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. 65-June 66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."
Free online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it online right now.
Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!
NEW:
Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.
Excerpt from Stolen Honor website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE
Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969:
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."
Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company
Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.
Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff
John F. Kerry Timeline of a traitor
http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html
Kerry's disrespect in 1971
to USA Symbols Video
Windows Media
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.wmv
Real Player
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.rm
Quick Time
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.mov
AOL
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.mpg
Send this url for the online "The New Soldier" version
http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/
Send this url for the Stolen Honor website
http://www.stolenhonor.com/
To: patriciamary
"Question for fellow freepers, but sorry, a bit off the subject, Did Kerry get treated for a mental disorder?"
Did = Should?
If so, the answer is yes.
To: DallasMike
. His case was dismissed by the trial court and was thrown out again when he appealed. He was featured in a story for Pacifica Radio, which is somewhere to the ideological left of Joe Stalin, that they titled Former Texas Army National Guard Lt. Col. Bill Burkett on Bush the Chicken hawk. He's not a disinterested party when it comes to Bush. I remember reading that story .. thanks for the link
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posted on
09/12/2004 7:19:36 PM PDT
by
Mo1
(Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
To: conservative in nyc
Hmmm... this Talon also provides experts for newsmedia people who are on deadline.
I wonder if that See BS "handwriting expert" was referred to them by Talon.
To: nonkultur
Does anyone have an opinion regarding this whistleblower and the Privacy Act. I think that was inacted in 1974, but would it be retroactive to this type of material?
158
posted on
09/12/2004 8:13:13 PM PDT
by
USNBandit
(Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
To: Anti-Bubba182
Just got an e-mail from a reporter who knows Burkett and has interviewed him for stories in the past. According to this reporter, Burkett was
not the source of the documents.
The most interesting thing to me is that he said that the paper is working hard to find the source. Considering that he e-mailed me around 11:00 on a Sunday night, I'm inclined to take his word.
I still haven't ruled out Burkett but I'm becoming confident that we'll know the source soon.
To: DallasMike
Great, I hope they find out.
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