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'The Beast' movie: Jesus didn't exist; Former Christian director's secretive film
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 12, 2004 | Ron Strom

Posted on 10/12/2004 2:54:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

A movie whose purpose is to prove that Jesus Christ never existed and that demonizes Christian fundamentalists is scheduled to open on June 6, 2006 – that is, 06-06-06, the "666" biblical mark of the Beast.

Directed by Brian Flemming, who is described on the film's website as a "former fundamentalist Christian," "The Beast" promises to spread the theory he claims is "gaining credibility among scholars" – that Jesus was made up out of thin air.

"The authors of the Gospels, writing 40 to 90 years after the supposed life of Christ, never intended for their works to be read as biographies. There are no credible non-Christian references to Christ during the period in which he is said to have lived," states the film's site.

Currently in pre-production, the film's cast and crew are "legally sworn to secrecy," the promotional site says.

Here's how the film's promoters describe its plot:

When her father, a biblical scholar, mysteriously disappears, a Christian high-school student named Danielle investigates. She discovers that he had stumbled across a cover-up of Christianity's best-kept secret: that Jesus Christ never existed.

Now that she possesses proof of this dangerous fact, Danielle must confront two strong forces: a band of fundamentalist Christians who will stop at nothing to suppress the truth, and her own desire for Jesus Christ to be real.

Diving into factual territory well-explored by scholars but largely hidden from the view of the public, "The Beast" is an epic story of innocence lost, faith in crisis and the astonishing power of the truth to survive.

On the trailer, which is viewable on the film's site, ominous music plays while these words flash across the screen: "Centuries ago, a legend was invented… forgery … fraud … coercion … wealth … greed … torture … murder … war … gave it the power to dominate the world." The words are displayed on a background of a painting of Christ's face.

The producers offer a newsletter for those interested in following the making of the movie.

Fleming is touted on the film's website as "internationally acclaimed."

States the site: "Flemming's work has been called 'a parallel universe' by the BBC, 'jaggedly imaginative' by the New York Times, and 'immensely satisfying' by USA Today. The Fox News Channel dubbed him 'a young Oliver Stone.' Flemming won the New York Times Claiborne Pell Award for Original Vision for his groundbreaking feature film 'Nothing So Strange,' which was released theatrically in 2003 and is currently distributed on DVD in more than 200 countries."

Supporters of the film have participated in a discussion forum on the site.

Says one excited poster: "I must say, I highly commend this director for his immense courage on putting something like this out!! The fact that he has the courage to put out a movie about the possibility of Christ never existing after all the controversy surrounding a movie about the LIFE of Christ (well death really) is just amazing!!

"Mad Kudos (and thanks) to EVERYONE involved in the making of this movie and good luck in handling all the 'adverse' reactions!!"

Another participant enthused, "I'm so excited! I can't wait until it's released! This is DEFINITELY the age of Aquarius!!"

Greg Koukl is head of Stand to Reason, a Christian apologetics organization. He says this kind of story line is not unusual among books and movies.

"It always turns out that fundamentalist Christians are the bad guys," he told WorldNetDaily.

"The problem with this is the evidence they draw from is always out on the fringes of academic scholarship" – evidence, he says, that is not even used by the leaders of the leftist Jesus Seminar.

Koukl noted historians that have no affinity for fundamentalist Christianity certainly write about Jesus and his impact on history.

"Nobody is trying to explain the indelible mark of Jesus of Nazareth on history by saying he never existed," he said. "That's way beyond the pale. No credible historian would make that claim. … It's a bizarre statement from an academic perspective."

Koukl wonders what motive anyone would have to invent Jesus and then "fool everybody."

He dismisses "The Beast" promoters' argument that because no non-Christian accounts of Jesus exist from the time of his life, he must be a fictional character.

"It may be the case that only Caesar wrote about the Gaelic wars," he explained, "but just because there are no other writing about the Gaelic wars doesn't mean we can't trust Caesar," mentioning the four Gospels are themselves four separate accounts of Christ's life.

He mentioned there are a "number of historical references to Christ outside Christianity, which buttress the fact he did exist."

Ted Baehr, founder and publisher of MovieGuide and chairman of the Christian Film & Television Commission, predicts "The Beast" will bomb with American moviegoers.

"Generally, these movies do very poorly at the box office," he told WND. "'Saved!' which had a lot of publicity, did about $6 million at the box office. … That's pitiful."

Baehr said bringing the film's contentions into the light of day in the media works well to expose the agenda of its promoters.

"The way you pull the teeth of a false argument is bring up the argument first and show that it's frivolous and fallacious," he said. "Of course it's frivolous. The original apostles wouldn't have gone to their death for Jesus if they didn't believe he was real."

Baehr said, "There is a small group of teenagers who will see ['The Beast'] who will be convinced it is the truth. … It will have an impact on a susceptible few."

One of the film's producers, Amanda Jackson, was contacted for this story but did not respond by press time.




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KEYWORDS: fundies; getagrip; movies; stupidfundies; thebeast
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To: Northern Yankee
A movie whose purpose is to prove that Jesus Christ never existed and that demonizes Christian fundamentalists is scheduled to open on June 6, 2006 – that is, 06-06-06, the "666" biblical mark of the Beast.

He believes in the devil but not Jesus? He takes the devil from biblical scriptures, yet, Jesus doesn't exist. What a joke.

281 posted on 10/12/2004 9:13:04 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's total disregard for the troops' safety is of no consequence to him - Vietnam, and now Iraq)
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To: bear11

Ping


283 posted on 10/12/2004 9:38:03 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
He believes in the devil but not Jesus? He takes the devil from biblical scriptures, yet, Jesus doesn't exist. What a joke.

Bingo!

A perfect answer to the mindless thinking that goes on with some of these people.

285 posted on 10/13/2004 3:56:45 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Netizen

Moshiach will show how facts, i.e. evidence, replicable science and objective truths AND faith are actually completely in harmony with each other. He will, when the people are ready to listen, prove the existence of a higher force and prove how the world and humankind can be perfected resulting in a literal Ganeden.


286 posted on 10/13/2004 4:06:23 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon..)
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To: Bob_Dobbs

Let's get off the historians for a moment. The historians were in Rome and at best, if at all, they heard about these things through rumors and were not exactly inclined to make the dangerous and lengthy voyage to a backwater part of the empire to get the whole story. Tiny rumors of far away events such as would have been present in Rome are not the material of history, nor are they considered particularly important "influential events".

It might be far relevant to consider another question. It was not long after the birth of the Christian faith that it began to be persecuted throughout the region and, later, the Empire. If I am not mistaken, the book of Matthew was in existence at the time, as it is generally accepted to have been written at an early date (circa 60 AD?). Of the accusations that were brought up against Christians, among which they are accused of cannibalism and atheism, why are they not accused of making up stories regarding the tearing of the veil, the giant earthquake, and the raising of the dead?

Certainly records would be filled with accusations, particularly by people who lived in Jerusalem at the time the supposed events occured who knew they didn't occur.

Or will you argue that this verse was a later addition? I am not aware of its absence in the earliest manuscripts.


287 posted on 10/13/2004 4:36:26 AM PDT by MWS (John Kerry- The wrong candidate for the wrong office at the wrong time.)
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To: Aquinasfan

Thank you for your reply. Every time I ask this kind of question to a priest, I get similar answer, we don't understand every thing that God does.

However, it seems to me that it could be more efficient to have undisputed long lasting appearance that is capable of speaking to us in our languages all over the earth? For get that shadowy thing, and the nonspeaking crying virgin thing.


288 posted on 10/13/2004 8:05:23 PM PDT by philosofy123
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To: JohnHuang2
"The authors of the Gospels, writing 40 to 90 years after the supposed life of Christ, never intended for their works to be read as biographies. There are no credible non-Christian references to Christ during the period in which he is said to have lived," states the film's site.

Poor subverted mind. The only gospel claimed to be written as late as 90AD is the Gospel of John. Luke was written within the lifetime of the contemporaries of Jesus, even before Paul was executed.
290 posted on 10/14/2004 8:28:49 AM PDT by aruanan
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