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SEAL BITES KERRY
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team

Posted on 10/16/2004 7:45:26 AM PDT by longfellow

Military Record

Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.

There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.

His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.

This will blow up in his face before October 15th. On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5). Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year." On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate, about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.

5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt Kerry, by his own words & actions, violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team Director AuthentiSEAL

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 180; form180; kerry; kerrysecrets; liar; militaryrecords; seals; sympathizer; vietnamcommunist
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To: Victoria Delsoul

That's a good quote from the U.S. Constitution that you cited there. Someone out there must know what's in those records of his.


41 posted on 10/16/2004 11:01:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: Mike-o-Matic

That's 'F'ed up! HAHAHAHa


42 posted on 10/16/2004 11:05:48 AM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: Imnotalib; Fruitbat; longfellow
The "General or Less Than Honorable Discharge," is simply the best of several plausible reasons for Kerry not releasing his records.

There are his Fitness Reports, some of which I have been led to believe do not even give him the courtesy of "Damning him with faint praise." (as do several of my own) He did release the favorable ones!

Then there are the ONI and FBI reports as attachments. Medical reports. The Trip to Paris to talk with the NVNM negotiators, etc. So let's give "Long Devil*" his due:

Kerry has been absolutely brilliant at
sidestepping this whole issue. It was easy. W let him.

* "Long Devil" was Kerry's Bones handle. W's was "Temporary."

43 posted on 10/16/2004 11:23:08 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: mewzilla

keep in mind that George Bush didn't acknowledge the accusations that he was AWOL either, and I don't believe those accusations were true


44 posted on 10/16/2004 11:28:40 AM PDT by Imnotalib (Kerry-Edwards=Liar-thief)
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To: Alberta's Child
Someone out there must know what's in those records of his.

Yeah, Kerry!

45 posted on 10/16/2004 12:55:17 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's total disregard for the troops' safety is of no consequence to him - Vietnam, and now Iraq)
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To: Imnotalib
keep in mind that George Bush didn't acknowledge the accusations that he was AWOL either

He didn't, but his spokespeople did. Vehemently and categorically. Kerry's haven't. Gee, wonder why?

46 posted on 10/16/2004 1:04:54 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Victoria Delsoul
"The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." "

How is it possible that we are coming this close to having a President elected, who has been shown to be a traitor to his country?

Kerry met with the enemy in Paris in 1971. He worked with a group to stop the war while he was in uniform, for crying out loud.

How can the Powers That Be have allowed this to happen?

47 posted on 10/17/2004 3:26:31 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

Hard to believe, isn't it? I guess the media has a lot to do with it. It is their responsibility to report the news, and as you can see, Kerry is protected by the liberal media. Thank God for the internet and places like FR.


48 posted on 10/17/2004 3:34:44 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's total disregard for the troops' safety is of no consequence to him - Vietnam, and now Iraq)
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To: longfellow

Bump for later.


49 posted on 10/17/2004 3:37:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: longfellow

BUMP I hope this is found, copied, and sent to ALL the press. Leak or no, We the People have a need to know this candidate's military record. After all - we have even looked at the dental background of our President.


50 posted on 10/17/2004 3:41:29 PM PDT by Libertina (10 Little Lying MSM Networks. CBS & ABC went down, soon there'll be none!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Yes, thank God for the internet and FR, now if only more people would pay attention.

I'm really worried about this, it doesn't make sense that this man has gotten so far along in the election process.

Of course, there were some people in the early 90s who knew exactly what clinton was all about, and he made it to the top.

Sad.


51 posted on 10/17/2004 3:42:14 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
Of course, there were some people in the early 90s who knew exactly what clinton was all about, and he made it to the top.

Yep, and the Republicans were mean and eeeeeevil for pointing it out. We can't win.

52 posted on 10/17/2004 3:48:09 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's total disregard for the troops' safety is of no consequence to him - Vietnam, and now Iraq)
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To: longfellow

I was hoping that it was a RABID SEAL.


53 posted on 10/17/2004 3:49:39 PM PDT by reg45
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To: longfellow

Hillary has Kerry's service records and will use them to make certain that he only serves one term as President and that she is the Democratic Presidential nominee in 2008.


54 posted on 10/17/2004 3:59:03 PM PDT by reg45
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To: johca
His first foreign policy action as a freshman senator in 1985 was to visit with Sandinista officials to include three hours of direct and personal negation with Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega. This was also a direct violation of federal code and sections of the U.S. Constitution.

OK, Bush promised not to go after him for Viet Nam. I guess that made his actions post-Viet Nam also hands-off. But why didn't Bush or Cheney talk about the above Senatorial behavior, in any of the debates?

55 posted on 10/17/2004 4:08:52 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Yep, and the Republicans were mean and eeeeeevil for pointing it out. We can't win.

Ha! I just wrote nearly the same thing you mention, on another post.

The dems have all the angles covered.

They've boxed the republicans in.

56 posted on 10/17/2004 5:23:26 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Yaelle

OK, Bush promised not to go after him for Viet Nam. I guess that made his actions post-Viet Nam also hands-off. But why didn't Bush or Cheney talk about the above Senatorial behavior, in any of the debates?

It is hard to show relevance and also not an isolated character flaw of an inexperienced freshman Senator if a pattern cannot be established. No way for the President and current administration to know about a confidential service action that was never made public. The dismissal is nothing but speculation based on discrepancies of service records Senator Kerry has made public and people knowledge of military Uniformed Code of Military Justice. To much political risk to bring up possible dismissal without knowing documents exist to back it up.

However, I certainly want to know before I vote and I think other responsible voter would want to know the truth about a dismissal upgraded to honarable discharge before they vote too.


57 posted on 10/17/2004 6:46:19 PM PDT by johca (Kerry is subject to Article 104 of the code even in inactive duty statue)
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To: reg45

I am sure you are right but she is running out of time!


58 posted on 10/18/2004 9:36:48 AM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: reg45

That's good!


59 posted on 10/18/2004 9:37:22 AM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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