Posted on 11/03/2004 12:35:09 PM PST by JOAT
Conservatives need to start looking forward just 4 years and start thinking about who will run against Hillary in 2008.
Allowing that creature to win will undermine this nation worse than the 8 years she had puppeteering through Bubba.
Suggestions for a candidate/team?
Jeb would retain the Catholic crossovers. If he could be convinced to run, he would be tough for even Hillary to beat.
Too bad he wouldn't jump ship.
Who cares right now?
Conservative governors - Frank Keating of Oklahoma?
i dunno. people might not like 3/4 presidents to be Bush. I personally would love it.
see post 96
Your question may have been rhetorical but... Harding was the last Republican Senator to move into the White House.
Great minds think alike...this was another of the things we discussed after the President's speech.
You are post 103, you tell me.
I would like to see Keyes come back (remember Republican primary 4 years back? I thought he was great, although everyone assumed he wasn't really a serious canidate).
As for Hillary, I don't think the Dems will tap her out. Yes, she's an ambitious b!#@h, but if there's one thing Dems should learn from this election, it's that your traditional anti-war loud-mouth liberal wackos don't appeal to the American public at all.
As for Rudy, I'm predicting that his kind of platform is where Dems will be 8-12 years from now. If the Republicans hold fast and attempt to garner fiscal libertarians like myself over the next 4 years... I think one of the reasons Bush has been so successful is that he's been pretty liberal, for a Republican (fiscally, of course).
According to this extremely exit poll of those who post here, here is what we are looking at, a combination of the following:
Pro Lifers
Frist
Romney
Santorum
Owens
Pro aborts
Giuliani
Rice
All in all, I am inclined to think that Romney brings the same strengths to the ticket as Giuliani. He puts MA and MI into play, though we would likely only take one of those. Giuliani puts NY into play.
Both have hold your nose factors, but it's different for Giuliani than for Romney. For Romney it's a religious test for evangelicals (I don't think the religious test is the same for Catholics). He passes (I believe) the pro life test.
Rudy fails the pro life test. That is a harder pill for religious conservatives to swallow.
I love Owens, but I think CO and that divorce hurt him.
I think I would like to amend my previous post. The ticket must be Romney/Santorum. They have the looks, the EV's and the conservative bona fides.
The D's are gonna crap.
I'll lay odds that Rudy ends up in the Cabinet this January.
Hillary! will be junior senator forever. She will never win a national office.
Say what you will. I like Rudy, warts and all, and he is very electable to the rest of the country.
I am not so sure Cheney won't step down in about 2 years, and is replaced with someone to groom for the Presidency. Just a thought.............
I'm rabidly pro-life and I'm disappointed to find she's anti-life - but here's the truth of it.
What role does a President have in this debate? President Bush will nominate judges that are strict constructionists. If she did the same, then I could live with her position on this issue (and I'm stunned that I could).
It just might - just MIGHT - be an okay trade off to have an articulate, Reaganite woman...
We will have to wait for two years. President Bush is very smart and he is laying the foundation for GOP domination for a number of years.
Cheney will step down for health reasons and Bush will appoint the next President to the VP spot. Of course I better check and make sure thats the way this works. Does he get to pick his VP?
I would be suprised if this happens. Afterall Cheney does not have ego. He would step down for the good of the party and country.
Oh yea, Rick Santorum. I like Condi too, but I think she is too logical thinking and wouldn't be able to put up with the liberal BS. Plus I don't think she wants it.
I will not go backwards and vote for a Guiliani
Only executives can win. By that, I mean Presidents, Governors and Generals. Yes, Kennedy won, but he beat another legislator (Senate President and former elected Senator Richard Nixon).
Senate President and former Senator Al Gore lost to Gov. Bush
Sen. Dole lost to Pres. Clinton
Former senator and Senate President Walter Mondale lost to Pres. Reagan.
Senator Hubert Humphrey lost to President Richard Nixon
Senator McGovern lost to Governor Richard Nixon
Senator Goldwater lost to President Lyndon Johnson
Senator John Kennedy beat Senate PResident and former elected Senator Richard Nixon
Notice the pattern?
There are no 20th century exceptions.
Or 21st century ones.
Dangerous Democrats:
Gov. Bredeson of Tennessee.
Gov. Warner of Virginia. (Will be unemployed in 2006.)
Gov. Easley of North Carolina.
I thought Ed Rendell was viable until
1. I saw him. He looks like Jabba the Hutt made up to look like Lou Grant.
2. He drank the Kool-Aid for Sen. Kerry, allowing incarecerated felons to vote, but initially resisting allowing soldiers to vote. THat'll help him in the primary but hurt him in the general.
Gov. Blogojevich just sounds too much like a Serbian war criminal.
Gov. Granholm is ineligible, being Canadian.
And those are the only other major state Democrats left.
Among Republicans, Benson (NH) lost. Owens's (CO) state is in partisan disaster. Ahnold (CA) is an immigrant. Pataki (NY)is liberal. So is Voinovich (OH). Romney (MA) or Ehrlich (MD) would have to prove themselves to pro-lifers. Pawlenty (MN) is doable. Sanford (SC) might be a bit scary and he's from a small state, but maybe. Perry (TX) seems to be coasting and bland, but he is working out. Riley (AL) became hated for tax hikes.
I don't know what his personal feelings are regarding the 2A, but no one is elected in NY that is pro-gun, especially NYC.
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