Posted on 11/10/2004 9:41:03 AM PST by MisterRepublican
There seems to be very little civility in the world. Something has got to give.
I always try to point out to our girls how TV/Hollywood/Madison Avenue attempt to portray parents in general and dads in particular as idiots. It's tough business trying to be a father to teenage girls. I'm fortunate that my two take after their mother. It's an awesome responsibility trying to show them with your deeds the kind of man that you hope they'll marry. I hope they'll never tire and always be excited about going with me to the hockey games and the gun range.
She is literally begging this guy on screen to "bring her to heights (Cialis has already brought him to new physiologic heights!) of sexual frenzy!"
Unfortunately, in my "romantic" experience, I have never run into a woman who "begs" for it.
Likewise, just watch sitcom on TV. "Jim" for example. Jim is a lunkhead, moron. This moronic stereotype is ALWAYS married to a very together wife who looks great in a tight sweater. Jim's actual wife "should" be a 225 pound beast with haircurlers.
Talk about decptive advertising! Still waiting for some hot babe to beg me. Hasn't happened, nor will it. And Damn, I'm handsome.....!
"I'm young, and I don't know a lot about advertisements in the past. But I have a strong feeling that they weren't the same way. Were they? And if they weren't, did they not sell?
It just seems to me that if this stuff is working with people, then people have seriously changed. The notion that men can't survive or do anything on their own is preposterous to me, because of how I was raised. I get the feeling it would have been preposterous 50 years ago.
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Well, I'm not young any more. 50 years ago was 1954, and I was watching television back then. The situation comedies of that period, like "Father Knows Best," "Life of Riley," and later shows like "Leave It to Beaver," all had dufus-like fathers who always got taken advantage of by the women in their lives. They were always portrayed as big dumb, if kindly, guys who always ended up giving in to the wife.
Well, advertising back then was the same as it is now...just not as well-done. It has been a staple of television advertising to cast the man into the role of buffoon and the woman as the clever one.
As it is now, it IS all marketing. Apparently the technique worked on my mom's generation, my generation, and now another generation. 50 years has created no changes in this.
Am I flip about it? Yes. But things were the same 50 years ago, so I guess it works pretty well.
That may have been a modified version. Perhaps they have multiple ads.
Totally agree with this. But it's been going on for decades, since the beginning of the feminist movement. And the anti-hero in movies. And it's just a little bit better for mothers. Authority figures, in general, parents in particular are regularly seen as out of control and incompetent.
Beg you for what ;)
I'll watch an ad, reverse it in my mind (with the male insulting the female) and know that NO WAY could that be run on TV. It runs the gamut, all the way to kids commercials on Saturday TV, bringing up American girls in a sense of superiority, when simple equality is called for. American males are too benevolent and nice to put a stop to this crap. I have NEVER seen such anti male TV ads in Europe or Asia. What is wrong with America.
I HATE THAT COMERCIAL!!
It just makes me and my girls mad. I feel sorry for the poor dad and, what selfish stuck up girls. I want to SMACK them.
My girls say, "Who's paying for the cell phones!?"
bout time someone took them to task
and this from a retired VZ employee
Doogle
While Chester Riley might fit your description of a doofus Father, Jim Anderson, (Father Knows Best) and Ward Cleaver, (Leave it to Beaver) were just the opposite.
The most popular sitcom of the era was "I Love Lucy" and there it was the wife who was portrayed as the lovable but nutty one.
I don't recall any ads which were like so many modern ones. BTW one of the weekly news programs, the one with Stossel on it, once did a story on how men were portrayed so negatively in ads.
I know...and the way they look at the guy is disgusting. First they give him blank stares and then a look of contempt. I know it's a commercial but it sends a bad message.
yes the book.
There are fat tail distributions which can have fat tails as the guy alluded above.
Sigma is how wide the curve is, but does not shape gaussian curve with fat tails.
There was quite a bit of difference in some areas.
Overall, the sexes are just about identical with girls scoring very slightly higher. The big difference was the extremely high scores were heavily skewed towards males.
http://www.costofsex.com/
Another example of how this hardens men's hearts.
I guess whatever works for people is okay by me. I just don't see how relationships survive that kind of combatitiveness over money that eventually has to arise when the credit card bills come in.
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