I wouldn't have believed it, 'til I saw it...
And here's a little known "google fact". If you google 'Carville and wastebasket' nothing comes up. You must google "Carville and trash" to get this image!
Posted on 11/30/2004 7:28:20 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ
Ohio — Today, attorneys representing the Kerry-Edwards campaign filed papers in Delaware County, Ohio to intervene in legal proceedings in defense of Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb, Libertarian Michael Badnarik and their legal counsel, the National Voting Rights Institute, who are seeking a recount of all votes cast for president in the Ohio 2004 general election.
(Excerpt) Read more at votecobb.org ...
Right except for 1 thing there is a window between certification Dec 3rd or earlier and Dec 7th (6 days prior to the 1st Monday after the second Wednesday in Dec) that a certification could be legally altered by a recount at least as far as the Feds go. The state certification is a state matter not federal. As long as the electors have been slated 6 days prior to Dec 13th (safe harbour) the Feds don't give a crap
Contact your current
senators and representatives
and main stream right wing media
and find out why Hanoi Kerry still is in the US Senate.
Demand that this traitor is removed from the US Senate now!
There is no need to impeach him.
He's in violation of the
US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3
and violation of 18 USC 953
- Private correspondence with foreign governments
and UCMJ Section 904. ART. 104.
- Aiding the Enemy.
Don't be like the silent majority in the 60's and 70's
and turn your back on America and cave in to the anti war minority.
Speak up for America today!
Distribute these url's!
EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!
Full details on these url's!
http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html
There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.
http://stophanoikerry.150m.com
Timeline of Hanoi Kerry
http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html
See, what's going on is that the Dems are playing to their base. They know they've lost. They know that they are going to get laughed out of court. But then they will turn around and spend the next four years claiming that "Bush stole TWO elections!" That's the game plan, I think.
Without Ohio's electoral votes, he doesn't have enough to win so does this mean Lurch would win after all?
But if Ohio doesn't send any electoral votes, then the total number of qualified electors drops to 518, and the majority of THAT number is 260. Check the Constitution: It's an absolute majority of the QUALIFIED ELECTORS that's required. If a given state doesn't qualify any electors, well ....
It would go to the House of Rep. Bush would win. However, my point is that Bush won Ohio and this recount is a joke. Even the Tom Bor
I wouldn't have believed it, 'til I saw it...
And here's a little known "google fact". If you google 'Carville and wastebasket' nothing comes up. You must google "Carville and trash" to get this image!
1824 does not apply. OH votes would not be cast for anyone. The US Constitution clearly states it is the absolute majority of the E.V. votes "cast".
I have already been down this road about two weeks ago, I will lookup the relevant text.
The link is dead, but does anyone know if these attorneys "actually" represent the Kerry/Edwards campaign or are filing this on their own behalf? Or is there another certain someone behind all this?
The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
No. Bush would win an absolute majority of ev's cast 266-252. That is all he needs. The only time the House does it is when no one wins an absolute majority of ev's cast.
Since you agree to the recount, please tell me where you would like to receive my tax bill...
Here is the effective method...DON'T GO BY MOST READINGS OF THE CONSTITUTION...IT'S THE TWELFTH AMENDMENT YOU MUST GO BY...
The relevant clause goes thus... "The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed..."
http://www.failureisimpossible.com/floridafollies/faq/ec_FAQ.htm
"It is not necessary for all states to be represented in the Electoral College; the Constitution, written when travel was slow, difficult, and often dangerous, makes allowances for a state's delegation not being able to meet by the date when the Electoral votes must be cast. A majority of states must cast their votes for the election to be valid, and a candidate must get a majority of the votes actually cast to become President. Currently, if all states cast their votes — 538 in all — the winning candidate must have 270."
I would hope the people who judge this see it that way, but by enjoining(I think that is the term)the request, they may be trying to get around this point you raise.
It will depend on how it is viewed.
The Greens obviously can request a recount after the certification regardless of their standing, because they were candidates.(If I understand Ohio law right)
But for Kerry to enjoin in this request makes me believe he is trying to use his weight without actually making a request and causing some to view him as sour grapes.
He, as usual, is trying to have it both ways, and they have the money to burn.
The end result is that he did everything possible for his base without making an ass out of himself further.
This is really nothing but a neck massage for the RAT base that loaded their charge cards to the limit to support a loser.
That is the way I view it, just to clarify my thoughts on the matter.
BUT! A majority of the STATES must cast their ev's or it goes to the House of Reps.
At least 26 states must cast their ev's since we now have 50 states, or do we have 51? (DC).
http://www.failureisimpossible.com/floridafollies/faq/ec_FAQ.htm
"It is not necessary for all states to be represented in the Electoral College; the Constitution, written when travel was slow, difficult, and often dangerous, makes allowances for a state's delegation not being able to meet by the date when the Electoral votes must be cast. A majority of states must cast their votes for the election to be valid, and a candidate must get a majority of the votes actually cast to become President. Currently, if all states cast their votes — 538 in all — the winning candidate must have 270."
But then I still can't find a "right to privacy" in the Constitution either...so what do I know.
;)
So, does this mean that the Greens/KerryLoons get to recount indefinitely until they "find" anothe 150,000 votes?
But sKerry has a plan up his sleeve! (Probably just enough uncounted votes found in a box behind the john).
I hope Republicans are well in attendance to keep 'em honest.
My smarter-than-me-older brother pointed it out to me in the 2000 election. He 's a Lib and was hoping that FL's E.V.s wouldn't be cast and Gore would've won 267-251.
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