Posted on 11/30/2004 7:28:20 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ
Ohio — Today, attorneys representing the Kerry-Edwards campaign filed papers in Delaware County, Ohio to intervene in legal proceedings in defense of Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb, Libertarian Michael Badnarik and their legal counsel, the National Voting Rights Institute, who are seeking a recount of all votes cast for president in the Ohio 2004 general election.
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This recount joke will not happen because the plaintiffs Greens and Libs have no proof what so over that a recount will change the outcome of the election to their favor and not to Kerry favor, they cannot represent or argue for Kerry, he has to ask for a recount on his own.
Once the certification takes place, the 20-EV are Dubya's.
Nobody would win. The 20 EV would not be counted. It then would go to the House of Rep. That's not going to happen. Bush has won, case closed.
I feel like I am in Florida again...
http://www.neoperspectives.com/florida.htm
I'm in agreement with you.
It's pretty simple really.
Kerry is an arrogant elitist that felt he was entitled to win the Presidency. It wasn't an idle threat to put this country through hell in the courts.
The victory for G.W. was expansive enough in popular tally, as well as over 100,000 in Ohio, that it was clear to everyone G.W. had won.
Kerry was leaned on by Kennedy and likely Clinton and who knows how many other high level Dems not to drag them down with him in a fruitless endeavor to steal the W.H. since the vote was not close enough to manipulate or sow doubt. They were rightfully concerned of the backlash against the Dem party and further losses in years to come as a result of his actions.
Kerry conceded because he was forced to concede, not because he gives a damn about this country anymore than Gore did.
Since he feels entitled to the Presidency, he will run again in '08. He is aware the hard left is loco, as he is one of them. By challenging and asking for a recount he believes he can have it both ways. Satisfy the kooks and keep the challenge low key so as not to hurt his "reputation" among swing voters who still remember his "gracious" concession.
The fool doesn't seem to comprehend this action will not be kept quiet in a bid for '08. Even his own party will use it against him, including Hill. Nor will the kooks choose him as a result of this action. They only desired a vehicle to represent their hate. They'll be on the look for a brighter and fresh face to convey their hatred.
My only question is when the Party will turn on Kerry. They obviously have no problem letting their kooks have a little fun, but this becomes too mainstream and they'll pay a price.
it depends on the methodology of the recount. of course, a math or counting error would have to be accepted. but a totally corrupt state could essentially cast votes through various methods - that's what alot of the florida 2000 effort was about - the Dems didn't want to count votes, they wanted to re-cast some of them for Gore using various methods.
in that case, use of the house of representatives is totally legitimate.
I can't take many more of these contested elections. I am on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Damn Democrats!
Let's throw another wrench in the works.
Bush didn't win Ohio, the Republican slate of electors did.
Say a recount "proves" Kerry got the most votes in Ohio.
Now say tremendous pressure is put in those Republican electors to "do the right thing" and cast their votes for Kerry, as the people of Ohio "clearly" intended.
Say not all of them do so.
Whee.
so does this mean Lurch would win after all?
On the astronomical chance OH didn't have their EV's counted, Bush would still be ahead of Kerry, 266-252. The House of Representatives would vote on president, and since republicans control the majority of state delegations, Bush still wins.
"in that case, the House could indeed use their vote to select one of two competing slates of electors from that state. Its not that far fetched."
Actually, it has happened before in US history...the election of 1876...where the Pubbies most certainly chose a false set of electors in a deal completed hours before inauguration day...it's long, but well worth reading for us electoral freepnerds.
http://www.rbhayes.org/dispute.htm
Oh thats right. I forgot Kerry wouldn't get them either. Whew!! Thats a relief!!
I disagree. When Blackwell certify Ohio election results he will announce that President Bush is the winner of Ohio and its 20 electoral votes. The Ohio Republican slate of electors is the one that will cast their votes for President on December 13th on behalf of the state of Ohio.
And Jeb's chopped liver? ;)
Honestly, I don't know what to make of it yet, but I'm concerned a bit. The lefty bigshots wouldn't be wasting 2008's campaign money if there weren't something that they might get from it.
I respect Ohio's GOP, but I spent many years in Cuyahoga county and its owned by the left, lock, stock, and barrel. I'm talking local, state, and federal levels - nearly everyone involved with government in that county is a lib.
I love that part of this affair. Ohio residents have to be getting sick of this blatant attempt to steal the election. The Dems learned nothing from Florida. Jeb as Gov and G.W.'s response to the hurricanes helped, but never undercount how 2000 helped turn Florida solid red. I welcome Kerry & the DNC's desire to solidify Ohio as a red state.
LOL! Too funny for words.
Yeah, it's one thing to be part of a recount effort on behalf of someone else, but it's quite another to have to come out for it yourself. I may be wrong, but what I think, what I figure is this--Kerry is joining the greens and libertarians to pacify his base so he can claim he did "fight" for them. Hah. If he really was fighting for them, he wouldn't be hiding behind the 3rd parties, he'd call for the recount himself. But of course he's not going to do that.
Nobody would win. The 20 EV would not be counted. It then would go to the House of Rep. That's not going to happen. Bush has won, case closed.
Nope. You don't need 270. Only an absolute majority of electoral votes cats. Bush wins 266-252
No...you need a majority of votes available...not a PLURALITY...see the election of 1824, the election of the "corrupt bargain".
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