Politician Who Won't Say Pledge Of Allegiance May Be Recalled

local6.com ^ | December 15, 2004 | local6

[crushelits]

DENVER -- A recall election is now set for an Estes Park, Colo., trustee who refuses to stand up and recite the Pledge of Allegiance during the Town Board meetings.
I have not been standing for the Pledge of Allegiance due to a conflict I have with the wording of the pledge, specifically the words 'under God,'" Councilman David Habecker said.

Habecker said it's a violation of church and state to include the words in the pledge and for that reason, he won't stand.The board began reciting the pledge before meetings earlier this year at the suggestion of Trustee Lori Jeffrey-Clark. She suggested it as a way to show respect for the country during wartime.Jeffrey-Clark said Habecker is expressing his personal views, not representing townspeople, when he sits down.

Habecker, who's served on the Town Board for 12 years, said he doesn't oppose the meaning of the pledge, and considers himself a patriot.But some other council members and residents are upset about his actions and have enough signatures to hold a recall election. That recall election will occur Tuesday, Feb. 15.All residents will vote on whether to recall David Habecker and a choice for his replacement in the event the recall passes. The recall is expected to cost a few thousand dollars."I'm sad for the community, that there is that much intolerance in our community. But if the people want to have a voice in what's going on, this is their way of doing it. And I will respect whatever the wishes of the community are," Habecker said.Estes Park, which has about 5,500 residents, is the eastern gateway to Rocky Mountain National Park about 60 miles northwest of Denver.

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Coward puke!

[Viking2002]

I'd support a horse-whipping and a one-way ticket to Canada, if it were possible. What is it with these human dingleberries that they're showing their asses and acting like 12-year-olds lately? 'The Hell with The Pledge'. 'The Declaration of Independence is unconstitutional and school children mustn't be exposed to it'. 'CHRISTmas' is a violation of an intellectually dysfunctional 'separation of church and state' fantasy. Too damned bad. It's a part of our culture, it's a part of our sovereign foundation, and it's a part of thousands of years of human civilization. For those of you that don't like it, you have two choices: 1) Leave. 2) Kill yourself. Because there is no judge, no law, no amount of force or threat thereof, that will suppress or coerce the spirit and free will of The American Man to bend to your pathetic, craven, spiteful, self-loathing filled concept of what you want our society to be. You have proven, in word and deed, that you belong to this nation in name only; you deserve no consideration or courtesy over and above that, nor will you receive it. We will still stand before the flag with our hands on our hearts; we shall look upon the Declaration and the Consititution as absolute and involiate; and we shall view the trappings of our most sacred holiday with all the reverence that it commands. And you, should you choose to remain, shall exist in a Living Hell of your own making. We shall have no pity.

[Michael.SF.]

Note that he is just "not saying the pledge". He remains sitting, while others do so. If he is a 'Patriot' and not the A-hole he appears to be, why not stand, face the flag, place his hand over his heart and remain silent?

[Ruth A.]

Everyone should stand for the Pledge. Whether they say it or not is up to the individual, but due respect or (to use the lefty vernacular) tolerance should be given to our nation's symbols.

I was at our Cub Scout pack meeting last night. We are a predominantly military community. My heart swelled with pride as the military who were in their "civvies" stood at attention when colors were presented. You can bet my hand was over my heart.

[elephantlips]

"...But if the people want to have a voice in what's going on,..." IF the People want to have a voice! How arrogant! It's the people that ultimately put him there, either directly or through an appointment of an elected official. In any case, it shows the gall and outrageous sense of entitlement some politicians have.

[the invisib1e hand]

he doesn't belong in this country. never mind as a public servant. recall, h*ll. He's unfit, failing the most basic test for citizenship. boot his sorry *ss out.

[JoJo Gunn]

Also here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302076/posts

[Road Warrior ‘04]

Can anyone supply an email address? Would be nice to send him a email just repeating "under God" along with a hardy Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas to all!

[Wolfhound777]

This piece of trash should be recalled. No elected official should remain in office in this country if they refuse to pledge their allegiance.

[GretchenM]

Hmmm. Wonder if Democrat gubernatorial candidate and twice-certified loser of the Washington governor's race, who yet refuses to concede, dragging us voters through the chaos of vote mangling, has ever refused to recite ...

[henderson field]

He should be sent back to Germany. He doesn't belong in America.

[henderson field]

There is no reason at all, religious reasons included. You are in this country. It is a Protestant Christian country. Respect that or leave. We'll make the sacrifice of continuing along without you.

[keat]

It is a Protestant Christian country

Damn, now I feel excluded.

[bc boy]

I think this is more evidence of the fact that the leftwing nimrods have taken flight and that flocks of them have migrated from California andt the nimrods are beginning to nest in Colorado where the flocks are nominating and electing nimrods to public offices in that state.Hopefully this unusually silly and bothersome type of avian creature which reminds one of the dodo bird will not be able to tolerate the snow and winter conditions in Colorado and the invaders will quickly perish

[California Patriot]

Recall him and end his public career.

Not saying "under God" is admissible. Not "pledging"
is OK if there is a religious objection to oaths,
as among Quakers. Not standing is UNACCEPTABLE and
an expression of contempt for majority values.

Recall proponents should be careful to make this
distinction.

[26lemoncharlie]

Tolerate: Is an Allowable deviation from a STANDARD

So therefore I am tolerable of a minortiy point of view, I am tolerable of Minority views, I am a very TOLERABLE person, until whatever I am tolerating goes beyond the allowable deviation from that standard which the majority will set.

This is a Constutional Rebuplic and is Governed by the rule of the MAJORITY and the Majority is Tolerable of those around them, but not beyond the alowable deviation.

This Society has and is in many respects and areas of Society has gone beyond that allowable deviation.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Re: Luddite Commie B-word's bio...

He certainly has milked that town for all it was worth. Wonder why he finally decided to speak up about his lack-o-religion and/or Patriotism? I find it hard to believe that a Marching Band Booster would never be anywhere NEAR a flag, and that The Lions Club doesn't open their meetings with The Pledge or at LEAST a prayer...then there's the fact that his town has trusted him with their MONEY all these years.

Ah-Ha! Follow the money, people! Follow the money...

[SnuffaBolshevik]

It is a Protestant Christian country

Is that written down somewhere?

[jwalburg]

Any relation to the Habecker who heads up the American Bible Society?

[mad_as_he$$]

Why don't you just skip that part? Of wait a minute you cannot reason since the is no association of a church with the state. DA!