Skip to comments.Prophecy points to "Olive" Pope
Posted on 04/17/2005 12:39:43 AM PDT by NYer
Rome, April 11 (Reuters): Maybe it describes the colour of his skin or place of birth.
But the next Pope will be the Olive Pope, according to a 12th century prophecy that foresees just two remaining pontificates before the end of the world.
The often-cited and contested prediction is attributed to St Malachy, an Irish archbishop recognised by members of the church for his ability to read the future and who was canonised more than 800 years ago.
St Malachy was said to have had a vision during a trip to Rome around 1139 of the remaining 112 Popes before the Last Judgment, the time when the Bible says God separates the wicked from the righteous at the end of time.
The next Pope will be number 111 on that list and is described in the text as the Glory of the Olive.
Like any good prophecy, there is plenty of room for interpretation: he could be olive skinned, heralding from Latin America, Africa or the Mediterranean.
It could even be a Pope of Jewish origin, since the olive branch is a biblical symbol for the people of Israel, speculated Italys La Stampa paper.
Malachy-watchers had long speculated the Olive Pope would come from the Order of Saint Benedict, a branch of which is known as the Olivetans. But at the age of 93, the only Benedictine cardinal is now too old to become Pope. The cut-off age is 80.
The Malachy prophecy has been the subject of controversy for centuries. Critics say it is a forgery, possibly distributed as campaign propaganda in the late 16th century to favour a cardinal during the conclave.
But believers point to similarities with the pontiffs. Pope John Paul II, number 110, was described in the prophecy as de labore solis or of the labour of the sun.
He was born on May 18, 1920, the same day as a solar eclipse. The pontiff was buried on April 8, 2005 the same day as a partial eclipse, visible in the Americas.
Some take the prophecy relating to John Paul less literally and say it simply referred to the Polish Popes birthplace in eastern Europe. The sun rises in the East. The 109th on the list, Pope John Paul I, was dubbed as de medietate lunae or half moon by the prophecy.
More pressing, perhaps, for doomsayers are the references to the last Pope on the list Petrus Romanus, or Peter the Roman, and makes mention of the destruction of the city of seven hills Rome.
The "glory of the olive"? Hmm..
If a jew ends up pope, I will start beliving the joos run the world bs.
The most famous and best known prophecies about the popes are those attributed to St. Malachy. In 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to the pope, Innocent II, who promised him two palliums for the metropolitan Sees of Armagh and Cashel. While at Rome, he received (according to the Abbé Cucherat) the strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before his mind the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Church until the end of time. The same author tells us that St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590 (Cucherat, "Proph. de la succession des papes", ch. xv). They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries. The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy", is a strong argument against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years.
These short prophetical announcements, in number 112, indicate some noticeable trait of all future popes from Celestine II, who was elected in the year 1130, until the end of the world. They are enunciated under mystical titles. Those who have undertaken to interpret and explain these symbolical prophecies have succeeded in discovering some trait, allusion, point, or similitude in their application to the individual popes, either as to their country, their name, their coat of arms or insignia, their birth-place, their talent or learning, the title of their cardinalate, the dignities which they held etc. For example, the prophecy concerning Urban VIII is Lilium et Rosa (the lily and the rose); he was a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis; he had three bees emblazoned on his escutcheon, and the bees gather honey from the lilies and roses. Again, the name accords often with some remarkable and rare circumstance in the pope's career; thus Peregrinus apostolicus (pilgrim pope), which designates Pius VI, appears to be verified by his journey when pope into Germany, by his long career as pope, and by his expatriation from Rome at the end of his pontificate. Those who have lived and followed the course of events in an intelligent manner during the pontificates of Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pius X cannot fail to be impressed with the titles given to each by the prophecies of St. Malachy and their wonderful appropriateness: Crux de Cruce (Cross from a Cross) Pius IX; Lumen in cælo (Light in the Sky) Leo XIII; Ignis ardens (Burning Fire) Pius X. There is something more than coincidence in the designations given to these three popes so many hundred years before their time. We need not have recourse either to the family names, armorial bearings or cardinalatial titles, to see the fitness of their designations as given in the prophecies. The afflictions and crosses of Pius IX were more than fell to the lot of his predecessors; and the more aggravating of these crosses were brought on by the House of Savoy whose emblem was a cross. Leo XIII was a veritable luminary of the papacy. The present pope is truly a burning fire of zeal for the restoration of all things to Christ.
The last of these prophecies concerns the end of the world and is as follows: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivæ. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman". Cornelius a Lapide refers to this prophecy in his commentary "On the Gospel of St. John" (C. xvi) and "On the Apocalypse" (cc. xvii-xx), and he endeavours to calculate according to it the remaining years of time.
|167||Celestine II (1143-1144)||1||Ex castro Tyberis
(from a castle on the Tiber)
Hist.: Celestin II was born in Citta di Castello, Toscany, on the shores of the Tiber
|168||Lucius II (1144-1145)||2||Inimicus expulsus|
|169||Eugene III (1145-1153)||3||Ex magnitudine montis
(Of the greatness of the mount)
Hist.: Born in the castle of Grammont (latin: mons magnus), his family name was Montemagno
|170||Anastasius IV (1153-1154)||4||Abbas Suburranus|
|171||Adrian IV (1154-1159)||5||De rure albo
(field of Albe)
Hist.: Born in the town of Saint-Alban
|Antipope||Victor IV (1159-1164)||6||Ex tetro carcere|
|Antipope||Paschal III (1164-1168)||7||Via trans-Tyberina|
|Antipope||Calistus III (1168-1178)||8||De Pannonia Tusciæ|
|172||Alexander III (1159-1181)||9||Ex ansere custode|
|173||Lucius III (1181-1185)||10||Lux in ostio|
|174||Urban III (1185-1187)||11||Sus in cribo|
|175||Gregory VIII (1187)||12||Ensis Laurentii|
|176||Clement III (1187-1191)||13||De schola exiet|
|177||Celestine III (1191-1198)||14||De rure bovensi|
|178||Innocent III (1198-1216)||15||Comes signatus
Hist.: descendant of the noble Signy, later called Segni family
|179||Honorius III (1216-1227)||16||Canonicus de latere|
|180||Gregory IX (1227-1241)||17||Avis Ostiensis
(Bird of Ostia)
Hist.: before his election he was Cardinal of Ostia
|181||Celestine IV (1241)||18||Leo Sabinus|
|182||Innocent IV (1243-1254)||19||Comes Laurentius|
|183||Alexander IV (1254-1261)||20||Signum Ostiense|
|184||Urban IV (1261-1264)||21||Hierusalem Campaniæ
(Jerusalem of Champagne)
Hist.: native of Troyes, Champagne, later patriarch of Jerusalem
|185||Clement IV (1265-1268)||22||Draca depressus|
|186||Gregory X (1271-1276)||23||Anguinus vir|
|187||Innocent V (1276)||24||Concionatur Gallus|
|188||Adrian V (1276)||25||Bonus Comes|
|189||John XXI (1276-1277)||26||Piscator Tuscus|
|190||Nicholas III (1277-1280)||27||Rosa composita|
|191||Martin IV (1281-1285)||28||Ex teloneo liliacei Martini|
|192||Honorius IV (1285-1287)||29||Ex rosa leonina|
|193||Nicholas IV (1288-1292)||30||Picus inter escas|
|194||Nicholas IV (1288-1292)||31||Ex eremo celsus
(elevated from a hermit)
Hist.: prior to his election he was a hermit in the monastery of Pouilles
|195||Boniface VIII (1294-1303)||32||Ex undarum benedictione|
|196||Benedict XI (1303-1304)||33||Concionator patereus|
|197||Clement V (1305-1314)||34||De fessis Aquitanicis
(ribbon of Aquitaine)
Hist.: was archbishop of Bordeaux in Aquitaine
|198||John XXII (1316-1334)||35||De sutore osseo
(of the cobbler of Osseo)
Hist.: Family name Ossa, son of a shoe-maker
|Antipope||Nicholas V (1328-1330)||36||Corvus schismaticus
(the schismatic crow)
Note the reference to the schism, the only antipope at this period
|199||Benedict XII (1334-1342)||37||Frigidus Abbas
Hist.: he was a priest in the monastery of Frontfroid (coldfront)
|200||Clement VI (1342-1352)||38||De rosa Attrebatensi|
|201||Innocent VI (1352-1362)||39||De montibus Pammachii|
|202||Urban V (1362-1370)||40||Gallus Vice-comes|
|203||Gregory XI (1370-1378)||41||Novus de Virgine forti
(novel of the virgin fort)
Hist.: count of Beaufort, later Cardinal of Ste-Marie La Neuve
|Antipope||Clement VII (1378-1394)||42||De cruce Apostilica|
|Antipope||Benedict XIII (1394-1423)||43||Luna Cosmedina|
|Antipope||Clement VIII (1423-1429)||44||Schisma Barcinonicum|
|204||Urban VI (1378-1389)||45||De Inferno prægnanti|
|205||Boniface IX (1389-1404)||46||Cubus de mixtione|
|206||Innocent VII (1404-1406)||47||De meliore sydere|
|207||Gregory XII (1406-1415)||48||Nauta de ponte nigro|
|Antipope||Alexander V (1409-1410)||49||Flagellum Solis|
|Antipope||John XXIII (1410-1415)||50||Cervus Sirenæ|
|208||Martin V (1417-1431)||51||Corona veli aurei|
|209||Eugene IV (1431-1447)||52||Lupa cælestina|
|Antipope||Felix V (1439-1449)||53||Amator crucis|
|210||Nicholas V (1447-1455)||54||De modicitate lunæ|
|211||Callistus III (1455-1458)||55||Bos pascens
Hist.: Alphonse Borgia's arms sported a golden grazing ox
|212||Pius II (1458-1464)||56||De capra et Albergo|
|213||Paul II (1464-1471)||57||De cervo et Leone|
|214||Sixtus IV (1471-1484)||58||Piscator Minorita|
|215||Innocent VIII (1484-1492)||59||Præcursor Siciliæ|
|216||Alexander VI (1492-1503)||60||Bos Albanus in portu|
|217||Pius III (1503)||61||De parvo homine|
|218||Julius II (1503-1513)||62||Fructus jovis juvabit|
|219||Leo X (1513-1521)||63||De craticula Politiana|
|220||Adrian VI (1522-1523)||64||Leo Florentius|
|221||Clement VII (1523-1534)||65||Flos pilæi ægri|
|222||Paul III (1534-1549)||66||Hiacynthus medicorum|
|223||Julius III (1550-1555)||67||De corona Montana|
|224||Marcellus II (1555)||68||Frumentum floccidum|
|225||Paul IV (1555-1559)||69||De fide Petri|
|226||Pius IV (1559-1565)||70||Æsculapii pharmacum|
|227||St. Pius V (1566-1572)||71||Angelus nemorosus|
|228||Gregory XIII (1572-1585)||72||Medium corpus pilarum|
|229||Sixtus V (1585-1590)||73||Axis in medietate signi|
|230||Urban VII (1590)||74||De rore cæli|
|231||Gregory XIV (1590-1591)||75||De antiquitate Urbis|
|232||Innocent IX (1591)||76||Pia civitas in bello|
|233||Clement VIII (1592-1605)||77||Crux Romulea|
|234||Leo XI (1605)||78||Undosus Vir|
|235||Paul V (1605-1621)||79||Gens perversa|
|236||Gregory XV (1621-1623)||80||In tribulatione pacis|
|237||Urban VIII (1623-1644)||81||Lilium et rosa|
|238||Innocent X (1644-1655)||82||Jucunditas crucis|
|239||Alexander VII (1655-1667)||83||Montium custos|
|240||Clement IX (1667-1669)||84||Sydus Olorum
(constellation of swans)
Hist.: upon his election, he was apparently the occupant of the Chamber of Swans in the Vatican.
|241||Clement X (1670-1676)||85||De flumine magno|
|242||Innocent XI (1676-1689)||86||Bellua insatiabilis|
|243||Alexander VIII (1689-1691)||87||Pnitentia gloriosa|
|244||Innocent XII (1691-1700)||88||Rastrum in porta|
|245||Clement XI (1700-1721)||89||Flores circumdati|
|246||Innocent XIII (1721-1724)||90||De bona Religione|
|247||Benedict XIII (1724-1730)||91||Miles in bello|
|248||Clement XII (1730-1740)||92||Columna excelsa|
|249||Benedict XIV (1740-1758)||93||Animal rurale|
|250||Clement XIII (1758-1769)||94||Rosa Umbriæ|
|251||Clement XIV (1769-1774)||95||Ursus velox|
|252||Pius VI (1775-1799)||96||Peregrinus Apostolicus|
|253||Pius VII (1800-1823)||97||Aquila rapax|
|254||Leo XII (1823-1829)||98||Canis et coluber|
|255||Pius VIII (1829-1830)||99||Vir religiosus|
|256||Gregory XVI (1831-1846)||100||De balneis hetruriæ
(bath of Etruria)
Hist.: prior to his election he was member of an order founded by Saint Romuald, at Balneo, in Etruria, present day Toscany.
|257||Pius IX (1846-1878)||101||Crux de cruce
(Cross of Crosses)
Hist.:Pius XI was the last Pope to reign over the Papal States (the middle third of what is today Italy). He ended up being a prisoner of the Vatican, never venturing outside Vatican City. A much heavier burden than his predecessors.
|258||Leo XIII (1878-1903)||102||Lumen in cælo(Light in the Heavens)
Hist.: Leo XIII wrote encyclicals on Catholic social teaching that were still being digested 100 years later. He added considerably to theology.
|259||St. Pius X (1903-1914)||103||Ignis ardens
Hist.: The Pope had great personal piety and achieved a number of important reforms in the devotional and liturgical life of priests and laypeople.
|260||Benedict XV (1914-1922)||104||Religio depopulata
(Religion laid waste)
Hist.: This Pope reigned during the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia which store the establishment of Communism.
|261||Pius XI (1922-1939)||105||Fides intrepida
Hist.: This Pope stood up to Fascist and Communist forces lining up against him in the lead up to World War II.
|262||Pius XII (1939-1958)||106||Pastor angelicus
Hist.: This Pope was very mystical, and is believed to have received visions. People would kneel when they received telephone calls from him. His encyclicals add enormously to the understanding of Catholic beliefs (even if they are now overlooked because of focus on the Second Vatican Council, which occurred so soon after his reign).
|263||John XXIII (1958-1963)||107||Pastor et Nauta
(pastor and marine)
Hist.: prior to his election he was patriarch of Venice, a marine city, home of the gondolas
|264||Paul VI (1963-1978)||108||Flos florum
(flower of flowers)
Hist.: his arms displayed three lilies.
|265||John Paul I (1978)||109||De medietate Lunæ
(of the half of the moon)
Hist.: Albino Luciani, born in Canale d'Agardo, diocese of Belluno, (beautiful moon) Elected pope on August 26, his reign lasted about a month, from half a moon to the next half...
|266||John Paul II (1978-2005)||110||De labore Solis
(of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun)
Hist.: Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain (the East, where the Sun rises). He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary). His Funeral occurred on 8 April, 2005 when there was a solar eclipse visible in the Americas.
The Benedictine order traditionally said this Pope would come from their order.
|268||???||In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex tremêdus judicabit populum suum. Finis.
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)
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Everything I have read over the last few days has said Cardinal Ratzinger will be the next Pope. I don't know if I believe that or not.
Just curious, is Cardinal Stickler a Benedictine?
And just how accurate has this list been?
I really hope Ratzinger does not become the Pope. I watched the interview a reporter tried to have with him on a Rome street. The reporter was asking him about the child abuse and the priests. The priest was in an ugly mood and swiped at the reporter while scolding him. This was a while back but this man seemed to be far from Pope material.
I'm hoping that this prophet guy can't count.
a Kalamata pope?
Here is my submission for his new Papal insignia!
I wonder what the 113th pope will have to say about all this!
This last pope was considered Jewish from his mothers side. At least that is what I've come across. Not a practicing Jewish pope, however, but that is what I have read.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
They should have stopped speculating 13 yrs ago.
I LOVE Ratzinger! I hope he DOES become pope, but I don't think it'll happen. He's very conservative and really knows his stuff. Most of the Cardinals think very highly of him, too. Don't let a little snippet of video guide your opinion of this fine man.
Olive pope, mhm, black or green.
There is an old saying: He who enters a conclave as a Pope exits as a Cardinal.
Cardinal Lustiger from France was born Jewish, as I recall, and converted.
The olive means that the new Pope might have olive skin or come from a group where many have olive skin.
Pole Olive? I didn't even know she was Catholic!
I think you meant Pope Olive, unless you've secretly got a thing for her. :-)
So what does Ratzinger have to do with olives?
That is very Austin Powers of you!
Judging from you post it looks like Malachy's accuracy is about 25%.
One good thing my friend Rossi told me , if we get the Olive Pope it won't be long before the arrival of the Martini Pope.
Maybe he will be a sour and rotund man given to eating pimentoes or, perhaps, a martini drinker.
if the new Pope, whoever he may be, has ever used an Olivetti typewriter at some time in his past - look out; another prophesy fulfilled.
He spoke of the secrecy, and said he's not a fan of it. He went onto say that the Cardinals would never lobby for themselves, but get other Cardinals to do it for them.
So much for praying to the Holy Spirit for guidance.
Odds - slim to none; Profile - perfect match.
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I think it means he likes Italian food. :)
If the next pope is Italian, I'm right!
I have to agree with you here. This reminds of all the hoo-ha over the "prophecies of Nostradamus", who . . . as Cecil Adams (somewhat) famously said, "did for B@!!$#*+ what Stonehenge did for rocks."
Note that only some of the phrases are translated - probably nobody can figure out how to make the others match up. (Of course, often little is known about the early popes.)
The clincher for me is that the list LEAVES OUT some of the antipopes . . . the easy way to make a sequential list "come out right" is to monkey around with the order.
the city of seven hills Rome - Babylon
I have read this prophesy for the 111th as well. A number of end-times virulently anti-Catholics are using this prophesy like it's gospel. It fits nicely with their "The world will end in 2007. One generation after the land of Israel was restored".
The temple has still not been rebuilt, there are NO animal sacrifices going on in the non-existant nw temple AND the real estate on which the temple will be rebuild has not been cleared.
This could be nearly as bad as the Y2K hysteria. Jesus Christ himself said that only the Father knew when the end would be, but for all to be ready at anytime. So why do we think that a 12 century monk would have the inside track?
Remember that a Pope does not have to be a Cardinal. He could be a Bishop, priest, or layman.
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