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Was World War II worth it? (Buchanan barf alert)
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 11, 2005 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 05/11/2005 9:08:36 AM PDT by EveningStar

If the objective of the West was the destruction of Nazi Germany, it was a "smashing" success. But why destroy Hitler? If to liberate Germans, it was not worth it. After all, the Germans voted Hitler in.

If it was to keep Hitler out of Western Europe, why declare war on him and draw him into Western Europe? If it was to keep Hitler out of Central and Eastern Europe, then, inevitably, Stalin would inherit Central and Eastern Europe.

Was that worth fighting a world war – with 50 million dead?

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To: EveningStar

Pat just keeps getting weirder and weirder. I feel like the guy at the party who just can't believe what he just heard. When, I wonder, is Buchanan finally, at long last, going to drop the (admittedly flimsy) disguise and declare himself for what he truly is? It hurts us all when this man is publicly identified as a conservative.


21 posted on 05/11/2005 9:30:05 AM PDT by Rembrandt_fan
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To: EveningStar
If it was to keep Hitler out of Western Europe, why declare war on him and draw him into Western Europe?

Oh, right. He'd have stayed in Germany if the Czechs, Poles, etc. hadn't provoked him.

There was a time when such blatant misprepresentation of the facts would have been noticed and properly condemned by most of the US populace. Unfortunately, the public schools have so dumbed down their curricula in the last 40 years that most young people can't even tell you when WWI was fought or what started it.

22 posted on 05/11/2005 9:30:11 AM PDT by American Quilter
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To: EveningStar

And to think this prick used to be a Reaganite. How utterly sad.


23 posted on 05/11/2005 9:31:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

I didn't change the headline. I added a comment to the end of it. The article is still searchable under the true title.


24 posted on 05/11/2005 9:31:37 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Well, one of the points he is making - that communism was worse than nazism - is a valid point.


25 posted on 05/11/2005 9:31:42 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: EveningStar

"Was World War II worth it?"

Now let's see. . . .

Buchanan wrote this article in WHAT language?

Japanese? No, didn't see the words ah so desuka anywhere.

In German? No, didn't see the words mein herr.

On yeah. HE WROTE IT IN ENGLISH BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY WASN'T INVADED BY EITHER OF THESE COUNTRIES! ! !

Now if Ole Pat wants to live in a country invaded by another country, why doesn't he move?


26 posted on 05/11/2005 9:32:55 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: white trash redneck

Remember, Pat quit the Republican party, thank God.


27 posted on 05/11/2005 9:34:29 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: AzSteven; All

I voted for him 92.. Big mistake. Yes I'm embarrassed for voting for Pat..


28 posted on 05/11/2005 9:34:42 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: EveningStar

Hitler declared war on us first, you twit. After we declared war on Japan.


29 posted on 05/11/2005 9:34:53 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: Austin Willard Wright

There are plenty of threads with Barf Alerts. Why are you upset that Buchanan has a Barf Alert?


30 posted on 05/11/2005 9:35:33 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: AzSteven

I voted for him. Regarding WWII, I've always taken his point to be that we shouldn't have taken sides between the Russians and the Germans. They were ancient and bitter enemies and we might have been better off to let them fight and destroy eachother to the bitter end. Instead, we made Russia an ally to defeat Hitler and ended up with an enemy for the next fifty years.


31 posted on 05/11/2005 9:36:43 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: EveningStar

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen Pat write. Good Lord, what's gotten into him? Is he crazy? Geez.


32 posted on 05/11/2005 9:37:18 AM PDT by RexBeach ("I can see it now. You and the moon. You wear a necktie so I'll know you." -Groucho Marx)
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To: righttackle44
Now let's see. . . . Buchanan wrote this article in WHAT language? Japanese? No, didn't see the words ah so desuka anywhere. In German? No, didn't see the words mein herr. On yeah. HE WROTE IT IN ENGLISH BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY WASN'T INVADED BY EITHER OF THESE COUNTRIES! ! !

So did Soviet occupied East Germany abandon the German language for Russian or did they just keep speaking German?

33 posted on 05/11/2005 9:37:48 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: EveningStar

Pat needs to go into a home.


34 posted on 05/11/2005 9:38:41 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: KevinDavis

I voted for him in '88...even bigger mistake. It only encouraged him.


35 posted on 05/11/2005 9:39:50 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: dirtboy
Why don't you read the entire article instead of using a thoroughly erroneous statement as the basis of your claim that Pat "jumps the shark?"

The statement he makes about drawing Hitler into Western Europe was in reference to the involvement of Great Britain and France in the war, not the U.S.

I suspect that most replies on this thread are being posted by people who didn't read the full article first. Buchanan actually agrees with the basic premise of Bush's speech in Russia earlier this week -- and then proceeds to ask a lot of direct, hard-hitting questions about what the hell World War II was all about. The manner in which the FDR administration signed over Eastern Europe to the Soviets -- after most of the media in this country spent years engaging in a deliberate cover-up of Stalin's atrocities -- was an absolute travesty.

36 posted on 05/11/2005 9:40:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

opps...make that '92 as well. I voted for Bob Dole in '88.


37 posted on 05/11/2005 9:41:06 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: EveningStar

Pat makes some good points, and as the junior senator from MA, John F...king Kerry would say, 'it's complicated'. Hitler and the horrors of Nazi Germany needed obliteration, otherwise we'd all be dead or speaking German/Japanese, but it's a lasting shame (euphemism), that FDR and Churchill didn't stand up to Stalin at Yalta.


38 posted on 05/11/2005 9:41:13 AM PDT by hershey
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To: SJackson

Sometimes Pat argues odd ideas for the heck of it, not because he seriously believes them.


39 posted on 05/11/2005 9:43:08 AM PDT by hershey
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To: EveningStar

His idea that France, Holland, and Belgium would never have been invaded by Germany without a British/French D.O.W. on behalf of Poland is ludicrous. It would have happened later, but it still would have happened.

This piece is a nice bookend to Buchanan's piece from a few years ago claiming (laughably) that the Pacific War was the fault of Britain and the US because they'd somehow screwed Japan over in the peace settlement of World War I (a war in which Japan suffered a couple hundred killed and acquired dozens of islands and millions of square miles of ocean by gobbling up Germany's Pacific Islands.)


40 posted on 05/11/2005 9:45:34 AM PDT by Strategerist
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