Posted on 05/23/2005 5:24:27 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile
The three nominees that the RINOS allowed through are the most telegenic nominees, the ones that the Rats fear the most because they cannot make the 'Republicans are about being white' claim. Losing them as the faces of the filibuster is a complete sellout by the RINOS so that the Rats get their way and shut down the other appointees. They also keep the filibuster in place for the Supreme Court nominations to follow.
Those of you who miss the fact that this is really about p.r., and see this as a victory, are too busy celebrating minor battles won to realize the appointments situation is a WAR, and we can only win it if we fill ALL the vacancies with conservatives.
But I think I have a conservative solution to this issue.
We know who's going to vote to end the filibuster on Owen and Brown. The RINOS have made it clear they are 'with us' until the white male nominations come up.
And we know that we need the filibuster ended before the Supreme Court nominations come up. This is unlikely to happen when Rats claim nominee Whitey is a racist and RINOs back them up.
Here is the solution: some conservatives, as many as necessary to counteract the sellouts, need to vote FOR the filibuster, to make it a tie again on Owen or Brown's cloture vote. And then object when the chair starts the constitutional ball rolling. And then we go through the filibuster-breaking process, as previously stated, with the RINOS on record against Brown or Owen.
The sellout can't stand this way.
"As far as I could see, George Allen from Virginia was not with the group of deserters."
I beleive he stayed rock solid. looks like he's shaping up to be our guy in 2008.
To all, anyone have the email address for Lindsey Graham? I urge all SC Freepers to email him. Remind him of the statesman we have in SC Governor Sanford who does what is right even if it might be unpopular. Urge Senator Wimpy Graham to display statesmanship and try to measure up to the stature of Mark Sanford. If Graham insists on being a rino (i can't even capitalize that word anymore), then maybe we can draft Sanford to run against him. Of course that may wreck my hopes of Sanford in the presidential race in 08.
I wrote to Lindsay on Friday, obviously to no avail, HE CAVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REMEMBER THIS LINDSAY, YOU ARE TOAST IN MY EYES, I'LL NOT VOTE FOR YOU AGAIN AND I LIVE IN SOUTH-BY-GOD-CAROLINA!!!
Here's the real concern, though: we lose the p.r. high ground if the rules change is tried with a white male nominee.
The filibuster needs to be ended. So the GOP needs to end it with the best possible nominee to attach a face to, and get it over with. That would be Janice Rogers Brown or Priscilla Owen. This deal is about giving the Rats and RINOs cover with racism, sexism, and harassment allegations that will be tossed out against these good men. Deny it to them now, and change the rule now, and that stuff is irrelevant.
"In any case, the old marxist({:-)) saying applies here: "If you can get the head in, you can get it all in." "
LOL! I can tell you that is not always true.
Anyhow, 75%? No way. Hillary is just probably calling Senators up and reading them passages from their FBI files, in that sexy voice of hers.
Woa, I missed it. This is a done deal already?
No way. Good grief.
If this is true I'm fixing to go into shock. The republicans are almost all on record as saying that more then a simple majority vote of judicial nominees is not what the Constitution calls for, which is true.
This is not a good deal, not at all.
Republicans cave again
Dark Side election getting set up for 2008
The Princess of Darkness, hiLIARry
and
John McEgo (architect of that excellent ... for democrats ... campaign finance reform)
in which McCain will lose ... come general election time the media will turn on him and he will be savaged will Keating Five Ads and Stories.
I couldn't agree more. Stop it now.
I'm tired of rino's. I'm also retired. I can live anywhere for a while. We need to identify those rino's where we can influence the primary, move there, even register to vote, and work our butts off.
Since bad political decisions should have consequences, I would even vote and work for their Dummie opponent, should the rino win the primary.
Having rino's doesn't help us in the least it seems. So get rid of them as a warning for future traitors.
So did Specter for all the insults about him on the Board.
"I wrote to Lindsay on Friday, obviously to no avail, HE CAVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REMEMBER THIS LINDSAY, YOU ARE TOAST IN MY EYES, I'LL NOT VOTE FOR YOU AGAIN AND I LIVE IN SOUTH-BY-GOD-CAROLINA!!!"
You sound mad. You guys aren't going to initiate another secession, are you?
Further to my #68....
I would appeal to Freepers in the states the rino's are in, to please contact, or Freepmail me as to which rino's are facing an election in 2006. I might just like to come and say Howdy.
I have a stack too. And you just gave me an idea: I'll send every request for a donation back with a polite explanation of why I'll cease my contributions!
If Frist didn't have the votes, why did the democrats even bother with this deal? They could have let Frist call for a vote and shoot himself in the foot. Apparently, neither the dems nor the republicans believed they had the votes.
Please explain.
Frist didn't have the votes as long as the dems were prepared to give the RINO's a minor concession.
The only reason the deal took so long, was that the Dems had been hoping they could peel enough off without having to cave on Owen or Brown.
You can email him using the form on his Senate page.
http://lgraham.senate.gov/index.cfm?mode=contact
Explain what? I've lost the thread.
I'm with you on that one! And have told Mr Mehlman the same thing...
We've been sold out and betrayed. That's what I think.
The US Senate sucks!
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