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Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight
The New York Times ^ | 08/19/05 | Andrew Pollack

Posted on 08/19/2005 9:25:31 AM PDT by RoyalsFan

By ANDREW POLLACK Published: August 19, 2005 DOUGLAS, Ariz., Aug. 18 - Spent shells litter the ground at what is left of the firing range, and camouflage outfits still hang in a storeroom. Just a few months ago, this ranch was known as Camp Thunderbird, the headquarters of a paramilitary group that promised to use force to keep illegal immigrants from sneaking across the border with Mexico.

Now, in a turnabout, the 70-acre property about two miles from the border is being given to two immigrants whom the group caught trying to enter the United States illegally.

The land transfer is being made to satisfy judgments in a lawsuit in which the immigrants had said that Casey Nethercott, the owner of the ranch and a former leader of the vigilante group Ranch Rescue, had harmed them.

"Certainly it's poetic justice that these undocumented workers own this land," said Morris S. Dees Jr., co-founder and chief trial counsel of the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which represented the immigrants in their lawsuit.

Mr. Dees said the loss of the ranch would "send a pretty important message to those who come to the border to use violence."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; civilwarii; constitutionlist; cw2; govwatch; illegalalien; invasion; judicialactivism; landgrab; ranchrescue; unbelieveable
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To: From One - Many

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61 posted on 08/19/2005 10:21:49 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: RoyalsFan; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; antisocial; archy; backhoe; Badray; Bernard Marx; ...
We will see a bloody civil war fought for the American Southwest in our lifetimes.

It's just really too bad that so many American Quislings are fighting for the other side, with the aim of destroying American sovereignty.

Quisling: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

62 posted on 08/19/2005 10:22:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

63 posted on 08/19/2005 10:23:50 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: gakrak

The illegals can do what many owners of border ranches have done: sell out to the drug cartels for a huge profit, so they can use the property as an entry and staging point for illegel aliens and dope.


64 posted on 08/19/2005 10:25:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: vrwc0915

see post 62 to understand BITS


65 posted on 08/19/2005 10:26:42 AM PDT by From One - Many (Able Danger - No Intelligence Failure - Media Lied Again)
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To: RoyalsFan

So this makes it clear that if you do anything at all to an illegal alien, you had better not leave him alive.

Stupid, dangerously stupid decision.


66 posted on 08/19/2005 10:26:44 AM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: vrwc0915

Is that one of the false flag freepers, blowing his cover?


67 posted on 08/19/2005 10:26:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

68 posted on 08/19/2005 10:27:11 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: Aggie Mama

"I saw this in Fox News this morning. I couldn't believe it. Surely, this will be overturned on appeal."

And the appeal will eventually be heard by the Assinine sitting on the bench of the Supreme Court - and you hold any hope for the land owners?

Wanna buy some stock in a new toll booth on the FloriDUH Turnpike? ;-)


69 posted on 08/19/2005 10:27:31 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: Travis McGee
I think he is referring to my post
"If you live in the SW you need to learn at least one of the following things:
1.Spanish
2.Marxist values
3. The art of the rifle "
don't know what bits is though
70 posted on 08/19/2005 10:28:29 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: r9etb
If he did (and I guess that's what the trial found), then illegals have just as much right to sue over bodily harm as anybody else.

No, they don't. They are here by breaking a law, if they get harmed it is because they were committing a crime and in it's commission were harmed. The only legal standing they have is to be prosecuted for being here illegally and any illegals with them are to be prosecuted for causing harm to which ever illegal was injured.

All, or almost all, states have laws that state that if injury is caused, including death, during th commission of a crime the perpetrators are guilty of the bodily injury up to and including murder.

Instead of being awarded a citizens property as a reward for committing a crime they should all ( however many there were) be in jail awaiting deportation.

71 posted on 08/19/2005 10:29:55 AM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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To: Travis McGee
We will see a bloody civil war fought for the American Southwest in our lifetimes.

Stop trying to cheer me up!

72 posted on 08/19/2005 10:30:20 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: vrwc0915

sorry for the confusion
BITS = blood in the streets


73 posted on 08/19/2005 10:30:32 AM PDT by From One - Many (Able Danger - No Intelligence Failure - Media Lied Again)
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To: From One - Many

thanks !


74 posted on 08/19/2005 10:31:07 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: Just_de_facts

We're in for it. I think we're going to lose this war.


75 posted on 08/19/2005 10:32:14 AM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: RoyalsFan

Large scale transfer of American land to illegal Mexicans will be good in the long run - they can use the underutilized ranches for money making enterprises like manufacturing Meth to poison American teens; machete factories so they can cut the hands off of their gang rivals, using unsafe junk automobiles to run Americans over with, etc. Just "family values moving north" to quote GWB our hero!


76 posted on 08/19/2005 10:33:35 AM PDT by afz400
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To: johnb838

I would say you are incorrect.
We will have set-backs, just as this is a set-back,
but when the people wake up....look-out!


77 posted on 08/19/2005 10:34:28 AM PDT by From One - Many (Able Danger - No Intelligence Failure - Media Lied Again)
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To: wvobiwan

ping


78 posted on 08/19/2005 10:34:28 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: Travis McGee
And, the Academy Award nominees are...


In March of 2003, Fátima Leiva and Edwin Mancía entered the United States illegally then proceeded to sneaking across the Sutton Ranch in, Hebbronville, Texas. The above photos were taken by the French photographer that was with Ranch Rescue on the Sutton that week.

My comments are self-censored, to avoid getting banned.

79 posted on 08/19/2005 10:37:17 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: From One - Many

when the people wake up they will be taken one by one by the ABC's and labeled randomly as follows:
Right wing millita
Memebr of race superiorty group
Suspect in pervert ring
Druggie
Suspected child abuser
whatever one will play the best in the local media


80 posted on 08/19/2005 10:37:35 AM PDT by vrwc0915
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