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Senate Races 2006 (Vanity)
NRSC, et al ^ | 9-20-2005 | TitansAFC

Posted on 09/20/2005 2:24:22 PM PDT by TitansAFC



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2006; election; elections; georgeallen; senate
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Just an open thread about 2006. I haven't seen a lot of talk about the Senate races in 2006, so I just posted this to open Freeper discussion.

How do you see it playing out?

Will Hoevel run in ND?
Can the GOP actually take one from the Great Lakes states?
Is Oklahoma REALLY in play?
Is Santorum already dead and buried?
Is Florida trending GOP, and can we pick-up Nelson's seat?
Can the GOP win back Jefford's seat? Who could do it?
Is Byrd an inevitable winner in a state that might be renamed after him in the next ten years?
Is there a true dark horse race out there where the GOP can pull an unexpected upset?
What will the final tally be?

I'll post my thoughts later. Just want to get a feel from fellow Freepers.

1 posted on 09/20/2005 2:24:27 PM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

The recent numbers for santorum looked exceedingly grim.
Sure would be nice to unseat Byrd, I think it's possible.

Every close senate race except Colorado broke in favor of republicans last time.


2 posted on 09/20/2005 2:33:17 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

I wouldn't expect the same to hold true this time, unless something drastic changes. I am suspecting that a lot of the decline in poll numbers recently reflects disaffection of the base with the GOP. Unless the current Administration and Congress starts acting remotely conservative on a variety of issues, I don't expect a lot of enthusiasm for getting out to the polls in 2006.


3 posted on 09/20/2005 2:35:27 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: TitansAFC

There's NO race in Oklahoma...did you perhaps mean Ohio?


4 posted on 09/20/2005 2:35:36 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Mount Athos; TitansAFC

Good GOP chances in NJ and Wash..because of all the Dem scandals...voters in one of the states might just take it out on the Dem candidate..


5 posted on 09/20/2005 2:37:42 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: TitansAFC

Democrats were hoping to knock off Mike "Gang of Seven" DeWine, but all their top-tier choices have passed, which means he probably is a strong favorite for re-election. Paul Hackett, however, is rumored to still be in contention.


6 posted on 09/20/2005 2:46:23 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
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To: TitansAFC

Yes, Hoeven (not Hoevel) will probably run, and will be the prohibitive favorite to win if he does.

The GOP can and likely will take one of the Great Lakes States: Minnesota.

Ohio (not Oklahoma) would be in play if the Democrats had a highly visible candidate. DeWine may get a scare but is likely to win.

Santorum isn't dead and buried, but I wouldn't sign a long-term lease in Washington if I were him.

We are unlikely to pick up Florida, depending on the nominee. The nomination process has been horribly mishandled by the GOP and we're likely to come out of it with a badly battered and weakened Harris as a candidate. Pity; missed opportunity.

Jeffords's seat is almost certain to go to Bernie Sanders.

Byrd is not an inevitable winner; the state may be renamed after him but many West Virginians are honestly getting embarrassed by the old Klansman. Capito has a decent shot if she runs.

Yes, there is a dark horse race where the GOP can pull an unexpected upset: Maryland (Sarbanes open). As Mfume and Cardin duke it out with each other, Lt. Gov. Steele has an excellent chance if he runs, which I predict he will.

The final tally will be somewhere between a wash and GOP +2.

Any other questions?


7 posted on 09/20/2005 2:48:46 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: ken5050
Good GOP chances in NJ and Wash..because of all the Dem scandals...

Why Republicans ever think they have a chance in NJ, I have no idea. And there are precious few candidates in Washington capable of knocking off Cantwell. Rossi might've been able to do it, but he passed.

I'd cheerfully bet at even odds that the Democrats win both races.

8 posted on 09/20/2005 2:50:03 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: TitansAFC

There was a rumor that Lott might not run again...that would make Mississippi an open seat, but one the Republicans should be able to hold.


9 posted on 09/20/2005 2:53:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: TitansAFC; Clintonfatigued

ping...

I think you meant Ohio.

I don't honestly think Ohio is in play. I think DeWhiner is relatively safe, assuming he doesn't step on his weenie between now and the election.

The Dems in Ohio are a perfect example of disarray. I mean Bubba Bob Taft got elected twice here.


10 posted on 09/20/2005 2:56:16 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Hey Fox News, MORE MOLLY, LESS Greta van Talksoutthesideofhermouth)
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To: Politicalities

NJ is trending more Dem every year, true, but many are suburban..and many vesytiges of Reagan Dems..everydecade or so, the voters get disgusted with the level of corruption and incompetence in the state Dem party, and take out their anger on the next Dem who is running.. In1976, I think it was....virtual unknown Jeff Bell came within a whisker of beating Bill Badley..and then there was Whitman's waxing of Florio..


11 posted on 09/20/2005 2:56:40 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: TitansAFC

Hoeven will not run, because serving in a do-nothing Senate under a weak president who will probably be succeeded by a Democrat isn't an attractive prospect.

Can the GOP take one from the Great Lakes states: Michigan, no. Wisconsin, no. Minnesota, yes, because there isn't an incumbent.

Oklahoma in play? God, I hope not. And I would guess not.

Santorum dead? No, but it will need to be a very well-funded and very aggressive campaign. And he'll still need some luck.

Florida trending GOP? I don't know. Can we beat Nelson? Yes, though it won't be easy and a bloody primary won't help.

Can we win Jeffords' seat? No.

Byrd an inevitable winner? No. At his age, some voters will seriously consider whether he can go another round.
He's also made quite an ass of himself. Finally, Bush did very well in W.Va. last year. Capito has a 1 in 3 shot if she runs against Byrd. In the unlikely event Byrd retires, Capito runs and wins.

Dark horse upset for GOP? Conceivable in New Mexico if Pfeiffer (sp.?) runs a flawless, well-funded campaign and hits HARD on immigration. Otherwise, no.

Final tally: GOP loses Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and probably Montana. Rats may, at best (for GOP), lose Minnesota, Florida and West Virginia. Best guess,
net GOP loss of 2. (Sorry.)


12 posted on 09/20/2005 2:59:32 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: TitansAFC

Will Hoevel run in ND?
Can the GOP actually take one from the Great Lakes states?
Is Oklahoma REALLY in play? NO
Is Santorum already dead and buried? YES
Is Florida trending GOP, and can we pick-up Nelson's seat?NO
Can the GOP win back Jefford's seat? Who could do it?NO
Is Byrd an inevitable winner in a state that might be renamed after him in the next ten years?NO
Is there a true dark horse race out there where the GOP can pull an unexpected upset?WV
What will the final tally be?Do not know


13 posted on 09/20/2005 2:59:38 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: California Patriot

Montana isn't proving as fruitful for the Democrats as they'd like. I saw a recent poll putting Conrad Burns at 51% against his possible Democratic rivals.


14 posted on 09/20/2005 3:03:25 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
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To: All

1) Declining poll numbers are substantially a result of pollsters not polling hurricane hit areas, which are Bush states. Ignore them. Check Rasmussen's results.

2) Chaffee in Rhode Island is safe. He stays left of GOP center, but he always votes for a GOP Majority Leader, and that is the most important vote any senator casts.

3) Santorum is not safe. He is also not dead.

4) Nelson in FL is a good candidate and hard to beat.

It's an off-year election. If the GOP retains both houses, it is a big victory, even if we lose a Senate seat or two.

Why is no one drafting Rudy to run against Hillary for her Senate seat?


15 posted on 09/20/2005 3:06:22 PM PDT by Owen
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To: California Patriot
Haha! I gotta hand it to you with this whopper.
Hoeven will not run, because serving in a do-nothing Senate under a weak president who will probably be succeeded by a Democrat isn't an attractive prospect.

That's gotta take the cake for the stupidest post of the day. Were you hibernating during last Spring when all that legislation came out of the Senate? I thought the Dems were the doom and gloomers. Some of you so-called "conservatives" have as big a rain cloud following you as any liberal. Guess that's why I'm a neo-conservative. Don't forget your umbrella bub.

16 posted on 09/20/2005 3:11:54 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Thanks to all those serving.)
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To: Mount Athos

Byrd will leave feet first; Santorum is toast.


17 posted on 09/20/2005 3:25:25 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Owen

Will Hoevel run in ND?

I don't know, but I hope so.

Can the GOP actually take one from the Great Lakes states?

Kennedy will most likely take Minnesota. Butler in Michigan is a long shot against Stabenow, he needs fundraising. No way GOP can win Wisconsin

Is Ohio REALLY in play?

No.

Is Santorum already dead and buried?

No, he can be saved, but it will will cost a lot of money, and I personally would like to see Rove take over his campaign.

Is Florida trending GOP, and can we pick-up Nelson's seat?

I don't know about trending, but I would say it's doubtful that Harris could beat him. Rep. Foley maybe could win if he wasn't forced to spend all his money to beat Harris in a primary.

Can the GOP win back Jefford's seat? Who could do it?

Not sure, but probably not. I think the Lt. Governor of Vermont (R) just declared like yesterday, but I haven't seen any polling. But I think a well funded candidate has a chance seeing as how Sanders is independent.

Is Byrd an inevitable winner in a state that might be renamed after him in the next ten years?

No, but it is going to be harder than it should be. Capito is a good candidate and one would think that the more WV really knows about Byrd, the less they will want to vote for him.

Is there a true dark horse race out there where the GOP can pull an unexpected upset?

I think Steele in MD is too good to be called a dark horse, but Cardin is a worthy challenge. Butler in Michigan perhaps, or maybe even a challenger to Cantwell in WA. The real dark horse would be the guy running against Chaffey in the GOP primary beating him and then winning the general election, but that horse is so dark I can't see it.

What will the final tally be?

Worst case: GOP loses PA, MT, TN (Frist's seat now) and one of MO, RI, or WY. All dems hold GOP -4 (less than 10% chance of this). GOP STILL HAS MAJORITY.

Best Case: Santorum pulls the miracle off, GOP gains MN, WV, MD, ND and one of WA, MI, VT, or FL. GOP +5 (TAKE THAT RINOS)

Most likely case: Santorum goes down, Chaffey wins, Kennedy takes MN for pubs, Burns holds on in MT, Nelson wins in FL, Stabenow holds MI, Cantwell reelected in WA, Byrd wins in WV, Pub candidate holds TN, Hoeven wins ND, Socialist Bernie wins VT (we'll count him as a dem), Nelson keeps NE, and Steele beats Cardin for the MD seat, giving us: GOP +2

I don't see the GOP gaining more than 3 or losing seats in 2006.


18 posted on 09/20/2005 3:36:25 PM PDT by polyester~monkey (www.polyestermonkey.blogspot.com)
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To: TitansAFC

Yes MN is possible. Real weak Democrat feild. Very strong probable challenge in Mark Kennedy


19 posted on 09/20/2005 3:53:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Politicalities

Good analysis....Dems have many more seast to defend, and if they follow Dean's advice of spending on every race, they'll dilute their resources..


20 posted on 09/20/2005 4:23:58 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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