Posted on 09/21/2005 7:07:58 PM PDT by Know your rights
Police are losing the war against pot and its time to make it legal and regulate the cultivation and use of it, says Eugene Oscapella, an Ottawa University criminology teacher who co-founded the Canadian Foundation for Drug Policy.
Police say the number and size of local marijuana operations theyre discovering is increasing.
In the last several weeks, police have laid charges after discovering more than $43-million worth of marijuana, mostly from four big busts. Monday West Grey police discovered another $1.3-million worth of marijuana growing south of Flesherton.
The biggest of recent busts have often involved young, Asia men. Police here cant say if there are local links to Asian crime gangs. Last week, New Brunswick police blamed Asian gangs for moving east and setting up for large-scale grow operations in their province.
But regardless of whos growing it, police say some of the larger marijuana grow operations are linked to organized crime.
Oscapella says people shouldnt be misled into thinking these high-profile drug seizures which police present at news conferences will stem the tide much.
Typically, they probably only get five to 10 per cent of the drugs that are coming into the country or being produced in the country, said Oscapella, who lectures on drug policy issues to third-year criminology students at Ottawa University.
These seizures make virtually no difference into the availability of the drug after a period of time. What they might do is take a few players out of the market, then others will move in.
Oscapella is an Ottawa lawyer who has served on government commissions, chaired the Law Reform Commission of Canadas drug policy group and is director of law reform for the Canadian Bar Association. He helped found the Canadian Foundation for Drug Policy, an independent organization to study Canadas drug laws and policies.
He says police and courts have failed to stop marijuana growers and traffickers and their futile efforts have wasted hundreds of millions of dollars.
Half of all high school students in Ontario have tried marijuana by the time they graduate, he said. Fifty to 80 per cent of the students in his university classes have probably tried it too, he said.
The auditor general in December, 2001 determined the federal government spends $500 million a year dealing with drugs, 95 per cent of which goes to law enforcement.
The people who are rigidly prohibitionist, they think that the police have the answer . . . and they trust the police, he said. Basically I trust the police but on drug policy issues, the police organizations are flat wrong.
Oscapella says the same thing has happened with the cultivation and sale of illegal marijuana as happened when alcohol was prohibited early last century.
The use of the criminal law to prohibit the production and sale of drugs like marijuana creates a fantastically profitable black market.
He says a bushel of marijuana costs little more than a bushel of tomatoes to produce. By criminalizing it, by prohibiting it on the black market, we have made it worth more than its weight in gold in some cases.
Oscapella said the criminalization of marijuana use and production encourages the development of modern day Al Capones.
He favours a model proposed by a Senate special committee on illegal drugs in September, 2002. It basically recommended legalizing and regulating marijuana. It would be sold much like alcohol is today, with minimum ages for purchase at state-licensed outlets, like the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, including in some specially designated stores. Penalties for driving under the influence of marijuana already exist.
There would also be a licensing system for commercial marijuana growers, like large-scale alcohol distillers require. But anyone could grow small amounts in their own gardens.
Yes, some people are harmed by marijuana, he said. People are harmed by jogging, by rock climbing, by snowmobiling big in Owen Sound. People are harmed by many, many things. But do we ban those other things?
Owen Sound Police Chief Tom Kaye said the reason police dont have the upper hand on drug-growers is because of lenient court sentences.
There is a huge amount of money involved in it, with little in the way of penalty thats being handed out by the courts not that the penalties arent on the books but its just that the courts have taken a very laissez-faire approach, to sentencing.
The 2004 former Molson factory marijuana grow operation in Barrie produced sentences of about 18 months, Kaye noted. That was touted as Canadas biggest ever marijuana grow operation, with 30,000 plants which police said would be worth $30 million on the street.
Down in the United States, the average sentencing down there for a grow op of much less is seven years in the penitentiary. So whos got the bigger problem with grow ops? We do.
Kaye, a former head of the Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police, said that organization is having second thoughts about endorsing the federal governments intention to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana, which would remove the threat faced by young people who smoke a joint. Under the bill, possession of up to 15 grams of marijuana could lead to a fine of up to $150. Growing more than 50 plants could attract a prison term of up to 14 years.
Kaye said the police association is concerned that the legalization lobby has moved beyond decriminalization and is pushing to make the use of marijuana legal and its confusing the public. Even if people could grow marijuana in their backyards, he thinks governments would still be spending lots of money for police to chase marijuana growers, just like police are fighting contraband cigarette producers to protect tax revenue.
Kaye said legalizing marijuana would be asking for trouble. He called it a proven gateway drug, meaning its use leads to harder drug use and polls show most people dont want it legalized.
Oscapella says hes never used marijuana and hes not seeking to relax laws to allow him to start now. But using the law to enforce social policy doesnt work, he argues.
Why do some people use methamphetamines? Why do some use heroin? Why do some use cocaine? Prohibition never asks those questions, it just punishes everybody. It never looks at what we call the root causes of harmful drug use.
Money would be better spent preventing the small percentage of people who are harmed by these drugs through education and understanding root causes, Oscapella said.
>>>Police losing battle over pot, says prof
That's because it's a stupid battle.
Thinking the ship sailed on Pot smoking when the Indians were smoking it, and hasn't come back to port since.
I'd rather legalize pot (with the same restrictions as alcohol) and focus on the stronger stuff. It's not that I smoke it, or want anyone to smoke it, but rather I favor falling back to defensible lines.
Well, if the police are losing the battle over pot, and the solution would be to legalize it, why not legalize crime? After all, isn't that a losing battle? Civilized societies have been fighting crime since man was created.......and we still have crime.
It is not a question of practicality. It is a question of what is right and what is wrong.
What a doofus.
Police are losing the war against pot
The evidence:
Police say the number and size of local marijuana operations theyre discovering is increasing.
Isn't this a lot like "Prison population rises, even while crime rate declines"?
They need to keep it illegal -- not because it's wicked and awful, but because the assinine prohibition is a great recruiting tool for our side, at least the libertarian wing of it.
What better argument for the ineffective, intrusive, and illogical nature of government than a multi-billion dollar, life-wrecking, police-corrupting crusade against a humble weed.
Canada is a French loving drug embracing socialist haven for anything bad these days. I would be shocked to hear they didn't have their police giving it out like candy.
They are THAT stupid up there in my opinion.
Be grateful we are NOT Canada.
What a crying shame. It is a beautiful country.
Pass the dutchie on the left hand side....
Canadians seem to hate Americans almost as much as they hate themselves it seems. They are dying out as a population as well.
I'm sure some religion of peace types are going to breed like rabbits there to help them out.
What does that song mean?
Good point. And since apparently nobody can explain what is wrong about using marijuana which is right about using alcohol or tobacco, we should make all three legal.
At least decriminalize pot now. Sheesh, the money and manpower wasted on marijuana busts.... Use the dough and resources to catch pedophiles instead.
And I don't buy the "gateway drug" nonsense either. Nicotine and caffeine can be considered gateway drugs. So could chocolate.
The gov't has no business telling me or anyone else what drugs we can and cannot take.
Now, be honest - would you rather live in Canada, or in the "inner city" portion of any of America's 25 biggest metro areas?
You can start by comparing the homicide rates...
Are there any foreign countries you do like?
Legalize pot? "FAR OUT, MAN!"
Ping-a-ding.
Trust me on this - it is far and away Canada's largest cash crop business. Ontario has a bunch for sure but the real business is happening in BC. In most cases, to be specific these are run by the Vietnamese. In the interior of BC in some of the old mining towns, every other building now houses a grow operation. Two weeks ago I was in Canmore and as luck would have it, I ended up in the hot tub of the hotel with a young recruit with the RCMP. I knew there was a lot of drugs in BC but when he told me the scope, it blew my mind.
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