27,000 Year-Old Grave of Two Babies Found (Austria)

Reuters/Yahoo News ^ | 9-24-2005

[blam]

Reuters - Fri Sep 23,11:08 AM ET A more than 27,000 year-old grave with the bodies of two babies is pictured near Krems in Lower Austria September 23, 2005.

Archaeologists of the Prehistoric Commission of the Austrian Academy of Scienses (OeAW) excavated the bodies which were covered with an omoplate of a mammoth. This is the oldest grave ever found in Austria. REUTERS/HO/OeAW Praehistorische Kommission

[blam]

BTW, the LGM pretty much killed everyone in Europe and some suspect the Neanderthals too.

Europe was re-populated from China and other areas east of there...maybe even Sundaland which was a warm paradise (maybe even, The Garden Of Eden) before the Ice Age ended.

[Wuli]

"Yea, but 22,000 years later the egyptian pharaohs built massive tombs idolizing themselves with slave labor"

And the evidence for the "slave labor" for the pyramids is....?

By the way, the largest and oldest pyramid contains no tomb and also has no Egyptian hierglyphics or writing in it, other than some graffiti that later fortune hunters left.

[ASA Vet]

Thank you for another interesting science thread Mr Blam Sir!

(Please keep your recon patrol away from them bones until they can be exumed.)

[blam]

"If this is from 9/23/05, and they are still in the grave, how were they able to date it ?"

(Ahem) They did all the science work including dating the remains before publishing the article. (That's the correct way to do it, btw)

[Wuli]

You think there is not evidence of humans older than 27,000 years outside of Austria? Wrong.

[blam]

"By the way, the largest and oldest pyramid contains no tomb and also has no Egyptian hierglyphics or writing in it.

The oldest and largest pyramid in the world is in South America...the Chinese are disputing that assertion because they think they have one older...the jury is still out, South America or China, not Egypt.

[Decepticon]

And the evidence for the "slave labor" for the pyramids is....?

The movie "Ten Commandments", starring my hero Charlton Heston.

[Vaquero]

Belief in the supernatual isn't a requirement for burial NO not at all...but the more primitive the person, the more that supernatural beliefs rule the roost. The dating alone would make this possibly eligible for the evolution ping list. at least it would wreak havok with the 'world is only 5000 years old' Creationists. How about it PatrickHenry?

[Clara Lou]

I'm just trying to figure out what it is that you're laughing at. Don't you think that they can pretty well identify the bone of a mammoth? Let's see...Austria...that would make them babies of whatever humans were living in Austria at that time? Seems logical. Why wouldn't it be a grave? You don't have to be a Christian or a Jew to bury your dead lovingly.

[stylin19a]

of course....my question wasn't clear. I was curious as to the dating because the remains were still in the grave.
But I guess, they only need a small amount of materiel to do the testing.
Sorry for my ignorance.

[Decepticon]

By the way, the largest and oldest pyramid contains no tomb and also has no Egyptian hierglyphics or writing in it, other than some graffiti that later fortune hunters left.

If you refer to Nubian pyramids, in the "cradle of civilization", they were constructed at a much steeper angle than Egyptian ones and were not tombs, but monuments to dead kings. Hard to believe, but egyptians built memorials to themselves, Greeks and Romans built bathhouses and coliseums for the public.....cradle of civilization....bahhh.

[Wuli]

No, I am referring to the largest of the three well known pyramids at Ghiza.

[Wuli]

Oh, I see, and your evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone came from that movie staring that Dances With Wolves guy? Right?

[Wuli]

I was referring to Egyptian pyramids, but thanks for the post anyway.

[ShadowDancer]

Not exactly long on humor, are you?

[Verginius Rufus]

I think 27,000 years before the present would mean they are anatomically modern human beings, not Neanderthals, but apparently there is evidence for Neanderthals deliberately burying their dead.

[ASA Vet]

About 29,000 years ago is the commonly accepted end of Neandertal.
Another 2000 years isn't much of a stretch considering they were around for 200,000 years.
And yes they buried their dead.

[From many - one.]

check later

[ASA Vet]

Guess we'll have to wait for the published reports.
(Which I'm sure will be posted on FR.)

[Artemis Webb]

I would think burial goes a long way back. Burial has a lot more to do with ridding the area of the smell of decay than a belief in the Lord.

The article doesn't say "assumed" to be a woolly mammoth. It says that it WAS the omoplate of a mammoth.

Babies of what? It looks like babies of humans to me.

Nathan Zachary? LMAO!