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Who is controlling the propaganda in the media? (vanity)
self | 12/11/05 | self

Posted on 12/11/2005 2:43:28 AM PST by starbase

Who is controlling the propaganda in the media?


Not who, what. It all goes back to a dirty period in world history. What we're dealing with today is a kind of Frankenstein's monster, lumbering around the countryside of its own accord. Where did it come from? To know that, we need to look back in time.

The darkest turn in human history can be called the two headed snake of Nazism and Communism, both left-wing socialist enterprises. Both are horrendous, both are responsible for mass death, and both are scientific methods for the acquisition and retainment of power.

One of the key pillars for the establishment of both cultures was a mastery of propaganda, one of the most powerful forces in human affairs. Joseph Goebbels is supposed to have told Adolf Hitler that if they controlled the media, they wouldn't need an army. Nazism was, of course, defeated militarily. Communism, and the Soviet Union, went on to fight the Cold War with the United States for nearly seventy two years.

The heart of today's problems with a propaganda drenched media took form during the 1960's generation. This generation, as is well known, was heavily influenced by drugs, rebellion, anti-Americanism, and anti-establishmentism, in other words, they were a generation drawn in and soiled by Soviet attempts at the destruction of the United States and the achievement of world dominion.

During the 1980s this rebellious generation largely fell into obscurity, and conservatism had its finest, in fact, its defining hour, in the persons of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, culminating in the collapse and defeat of the Soviet Union.

However, many poisonous seeds had already been sown and as the 1990's progressed the 1960's generation came into their own, and began taking over positions of responsibility. They are now dispersed throughout society. Many of them retain their anti-American hatreds and are in positions to act on them.

But they are not alone. One of the most important activities for both Nazism and Communism was to convert young people to their cause. These groups also look for all around perverts, who help diminish everything, and "useful idiots", people who can be used in certain situations.

But, where is the proof of this subversive, propaganda-driven behavior? Well, it's everywhere.

Without much effort we can identify numerous examples of subversion and propaganda:

1. One list of currently used propaganda techniques can be found HERE. The reader of mass media will immediately recognize many of these techniques.

2. During the Clinton administration our highest nuclear secrets were stolen by the Chinese. Given the sorry state of security at our labs, it is difficult to believe this was not intentional.

3. U.S. corporations were allowed to improve Chinese missile technology during the 1990's to the extent that Chinese missiles made improvements in a few years which should have taken decades.

4. Dan Rather's open attempt to derail a CURRENT presidential election with flagrantly falsified documents broadcast nationwide on the EVE of voting.

5. Jane Fonda, John Kerry, and so many others like them undermined the United States with lies and distortions in the 60's and 70's.

6. JUST LAST WEEK John Kerry made a bizarre claim that "our soldiers are terrorizing Iraqi children and women", a complete lie.

7. Senator Dick Durbin broadcast worldwide comments comparing our own soldiers and their mission to restrain and destroy global terrorism to the Nazis and their death camps, as well as to Soviet gulags and Pol Pot's Cambodian genocide.

Soviet and Nazi subversion techniques are an attempt to artificially speed up the natural aging of societies to the point that the society dies. Degrading the schools, art, religion, military, and government causes people to care a bit less about each one of these, to defend them less, to remember them less, and to question whether they really have any relationship with others in their "society".

Regular insults to all these institutions appear on TV, in movies, music, and in newspapers. But these insults are not designed to actually insult the institutions, rather they are designed to make a few more people turn away from something that now seems "worthless". Each put-down, and each act of turning away, is one more broken bond. As more people participate in this kind of assault, and as more bonds snap, the society moves faster and faster towards dissolution.

This occurs naturally as a result of time. The greatest societies ever made cannot last forever. But a process that should take centuries can be speeded up until it takes only decades. Through constant irritation, the natural death of a society can be artificially accelerated and provoked.

The society will one day be more dead than alive. At that time any subversive groups can make an attempt to take over a socially incohesive region with a dictatorship, keeping themselves in power as long as they can, doing whatever they want to anyone or anything. This has happened historically (Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, China, etc.). Dictatorship is the ultimate goal of all this subversion.


But how could people who try to undermine all these organizations on a regular basis possibly agree on how to divide up the spoils if they ultimately succeed? Well, they don't need to agree. How much each individual contributer will get depends on how close they are to the front of the line when the society finally falls.
And all along the way, each one of these participants can have a constant feeling of power over everyone who doesn't understand what the goal is. Having that feeling of power is part of the widespread attraction of this effort.

Bottom feeding perverts and people who are just being used by this "system" (like Cindy Sheehan) will also get (or be) a piece of meat, even if they just use up a neighbor or a friend.

No one is directing it, rather, for a variety of reasons, all participants have their eyes on one goal. So you can see that this effort is a monster without a head.

And the road to achieve this goal of a society's early destruction is propaganda. Propaganda techniques work, and have worked many times in the past.

So to answer the question from the title of this piece, a system. A system is controlling the propaganda in the media, and its purpose is to accelerate the death of a society.

The way to defeat this effort is first to be aware of it, second to understand it, and third to work everyday to drive these types of forces out of all organizations responsible for the continuation of culture; schools, religion, art, military, and government.

One should understand the everyday attacks on these organizations as being the lubricant which makes this dark system work. The attacks always focus only on things which successfully continue culture.

Purposefully continuing one's culture makes it immune to this dark system. All one needs to know is that their cultural icons are well cared for and functioning at peak performance. Making sure this is true is what protects the culture from any hidden assaults.

Propaganda pays huge dividends for a tiny investment. Neutralizing this will neutralize any effort against our society from these old techniques.

By stopping their use of propaganda with education, and by working actively to propagate the cultural aspects which we value, people of the subversive mindset will ultimately be suffocated. Then this second shock wave from the dark days of inhuman societies will burn itself out once and for all, to live on only in the history books.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: benedictarnolds; liberalmedia; mdm; msm; propaganda
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To: cgbg
I said there were exceptions everywhere. FDR had some very hostile press, too.

I think we can prove convincingly that the change did NOT occurr in the 1950s. The study I'm involved in is pretty detailed, but it covers 1958-1960, and so far the early stuff (up to 1960) is saying that the shift came later.

It is my point precisely that JFK and Camelot and the pitiful assassination coverage was/were the major influencing factors in the change, contrary to those who say Vietnam.

61 posted on 12/11/2005 8:44:29 AM PST by LS
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To: Smokin' Joe
"The gambit is to pick a phrase or term the one party uses and attack the phraseology as improper, hate speech, etc., and deflect attention from the substance of the question/statement to the manner in which it was asked/stated."

It only succeeds because the one making the statement or using the phrase typically lacks the guts to publicly counter the attack and expose it for what it is Rather, he typically agrees with it by his action, if not in fact. As long as conservatives approach everything with an apologetic attitude and fear of some imaginary offendee, the left has an effective weapon that it will not hesitate to use to beat us up.

62 posted on 12/11/2005 8:44:42 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: starbase

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320747/posts
George Soros, Media Connections - Bump List


63 posted on 12/11/2005 8:46:25 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: starbase; Mr. Mojo
Great post...

The conspiracist in me contemplates whether the level of propagandae is regulated in order to "balance" the political power of the Parties.

IOW, is there actually an international New World Order control of the MSM which purposely distorts the truth in order to ensure American conservative pro-soveignty forces and advocates don't become too dominant, and thus less apt to yield to an elitist borderless One World Government?

64 posted on 12/11/2005 8:46:42 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: yarddog

Good point. My company--a privately held global environmental engineering firm--is falling all over itself to adopt liberal policies, which certainly can't be cost effective. It makes you wonder.


65 posted on 12/11/2005 8:56:07 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: Doctor Raoul

"It's group think. Liberals are very sensitive to group think."

Per capita, (pun too!) "liberals" are a small loud domineering minority. Their manifested groupthink represents the Marxist mandate to overpower with the influence and intrusion of "Collective Solidarity." The MEDIA establishment is a prime example of this mandate in force.

They won't target traditionals like us - we cannot be converted, so they defame us with ad hominem dismissal. Their prime targets are youth and the "unwashed masses", "willing fools", immature idealists, congenital malcontents.

(Psychopolitics, per the Marxist/Soviet University text.)


66 posted on 12/11/2005 8:56:23 AM PST by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: starbase

The NY Slimes goes back to the Russian Revolution and their lies and spins to cover up the mass murders and starvation of innocent Russian peasants after the Revolution. The so called Progressive Party was spawned across America before WWI. It went dormant during WWI and restarted after WWI. They were the Godfathers of socialism, high taxation for the poor and big government in America. Hubert Humphrey, McGovern, Tom Brokaw and other politcal leaders from the Midwest Farm belt were the pushers and leaders in the last 50 years of the past century.

In the 1930's before WWII started, many of the MSM started pushing the German Euthanasia plans to rid the unwanted from littering the Earth. Margaret Sanger and other early pushers of abortion and birth control were the poster girls and boys.

The so called Isolationists from WW I to WWII came from the Progressives and pro Nazi German fans like Joseph Kennedy and Lindburg.

You have nailed the after WWII poster boys and girls.

So much of this has been funded by the children and grand children of very successful capitalists. They hate competition and push socialism as a guise to push fascism where only a few big corporations have government approval and union approval to exist.

Elites from NYC, Boston, the NE, and the Beltway area have controlled the MSM bias for decades if not for over a century.


67 posted on 12/11/2005 9:00:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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To: sweetliberty
You said it, we need more shameless conservatives!

(something you will never get while being 'centrist' and cannot be created by compromise.)

68 posted on 12/11/2005 9:06:33 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: MillerCreek; starbase
"The public school system in the U.S., our educational process, has been hijacked from what used to be greatly principled, motivated and very patriotic system into one that teaches disrespect for the U.S., a hate and distrust of our country and particularly our military, and a love and admiration for personal behaviors of a questionable kind."

MillerCreek speaks the truth, the unblanched truth.

Building upon what MC has said, then.
How many people recall the then '96 presidential candidate Bob Dole making a statement while stumping around, and I paraphrase, "Politics should never tamper with 'The Public Trust' of public education." (~or something to that effect)?

How many people actually understood what the hell the man was trying to say?

In hindsight perhaps what Bob Dole was really trying to do.

...was *warn* us.

69 posted on 12/11/2005 9:29:05 AM PST by Landru (If a sucker's born every minute, that's a lotta suckers.)
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To: GermanBusiness
"Here in Europe, the 'Communists for Kerry' march on Fifth Avenue was reported on TV like it was serious and not sarcastic. Europeans saw the well-dressed conservatives marching...and it helped convince them that Kerry was the man to vote for."

Interesting observation, my friend.

On the flip-side of your observation is how the American public used to see/hear examples of the failed socialist states around the globe.
But not anymore.

Not speaking of the North Korea types, either.
I mean England, France, Germany, Italy and Sweden who I as a conservative consider the core of the "Communist Lite" European nations.

Not a peep about social disorder, anarchy or the breakdown of customary culture & mores per se from our mediots.
Not an on-the-scene "Report", "Story" and/or "Documentary" to be heard or seen contrasting the nations, not one.
We mainly hear/see nothing but "Blue Skies" we concerning these places and some of us know better.
But not all.

I mean merely having to report the recent Muslim riots happening in Paris, France to the American audience had to have killed the Liberal-Socialists running the US quisling media these days.

And please excuse the metaphor.

...& took an act of congress. ;^)

70 posted on 12/11/2005 9:53:11 AM PST by Landru (If a sucker's born every minute, that's a lotta suckers.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

>>>I guess you could make a good case that those in the leftist press/media are guilty of crimes against humanity.<<<

Air tight.


71 posted on 12/11/2005 11:50:51 AM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. " - Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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To: starbase
"Here is my attempt to explain the entire idea in one reading."

And an excellent effort it is, too. ;^)

"Please share any comments you have."

Really have nothing much more to add to what strikes me an already well thought out opinion piece. (~& I thought about it all with every swing of my ax.)
Except this:

"Who is controlling the propaganda in the media?"

Much of it may in fact be "institutional", granted.
But don't kid yourself, either.
There're faces & names behind what we're seeing perpetrated upon us all by the MSM, alright.
You bet there are, make no mistake about that.

It's just that they're probably *not* the kinds of faces most of us would imagine: bearded Lennon-spectacled geeks with pony tails & wearing Birkenstock.
The "editors" yea, likely; but, not the big-shots pulling the levers behind the proverbial curtain.
No-way-Jose'.

Those responsible for all the lies, the spin, the treason and anger probably don't look *like* the stooges they hire to run their concern(s) one bit.

Methinks the big-shots are rather well groomed. Wear designer glasses & only the finest hand tailored apparel from the best clothiers. Yup, sure do. This ilk drives the fanciest beamers, Benzs & Rolls and belong to only the best country clubs and places where they may rub elbows with those of their warped kind.

Know what else I suspect concerning 9 out of 10 of these type of people?
They're registered Republicans. ;^)

Anyway maybe I'm right & maybe I'm wrong but whatever the truth really is?

...you just keep up the great work, y'hear?

72 posted on 12/11/2005 1:25:31 PM PST by Landru (If a sucker's born every minute, that's a lotta suckers.)
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To: sweetliberty

Right. But everyone has to remember the Bush-Kerry Debate where Kerry quoted the NYTimes and WP, saying "it must be true" and the President laughed and *started* to say something about how ironic that statement was...but then backed off with a "never mind" shrug.

That said to me that, for whatever reason the Bush Family has that I don't know about, the credibility of our MSM seems to be something the Bush Family counts on.

I personally don't understand. I would have nailed Kerry on that part of the debate.


73 posted on 12/11/2005 2:39:37 PM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: GermanBusiness

[Bush-Kerry Debate where Kerry quoted the NYTimes and WP, saying "it must be true" and the President laughed and *started* to say something about how ironic that statement was...but then backed off with a "never mind" shrug]

How many times have we seen the President and his father appear to deliberately strike out, like they are taking a fall on purpose?


74 posted on 12/11/2005 2:41:26 PM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: GermanBusiness
"How many times have we seen the President and his father appear to deliberately strike out, like they are taking a fall on purpose?"

Far too many times to make sense....Beginning in 1992 with GH Bush's sham Presidential campaign.

75 posted on 12/11/2005 3:03:51 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: sweetliberty

Bump for later read; thanks for the ping....you're comments are an interesting prelude to the article.


76 posted on 12/11/2005 6:27:04 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: starbase; sweetliberty
So you can see that this effort is a monster without a head. You make a lot of good points but I'm not so sure I agree with this one.....entirely. While evil itself could be construed to be a system, evil always has at least one primary and universal author. And the farther our country/nation/society drifts from the Author of all that is good, the closer we get to the author of evil. And IMHO, the forces we fight against are pure evil and the father of lies.

sweetliberty, I really like Ephesians 6:12, but I'm particularly fond of the King James version:

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


Propaganda is a well planned lie that often must go through numerous iterations to achieve its purpose, which is to deceive. Man's natural inclination to wickedness is played upon by the progagandist, who not unlike an O.J. juror, just needs something to hang their hat on. So, without Him to guide our steps, the propagandist has fertile ground to work.

FGS

77 posted on 12/11/2005 7:10:45 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: sauropod

mark


78 posted on 12/11/2005 7:11:41 PM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: starbase

Dead on. The communists never went away; they just went into the green parties.


79 posted on 12/11/2005 8:19:03 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: starbase

Very nice article!!


80 posted on 12/12/2005 8:59:51 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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