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Freep Governor Schwarzennegger 1-916-445-2841, Will he be "Girly Man" or the "Terminator" w/ Tookie
vanity | December 12, 2005 | the eagle has landed

Posted on 12/12/2005 5:34:42 AM PST by TheEaglehasLanded

When the 9th Circus says it's ok to go ahead with the execution, a bunch that has opposed most capital punishment it seems like an easy call.

26 years of appeals, 4 murders directly and thousands more indirectly by starting the Crypts gang. If writing childrens books gets you off death row I can see a bunch of new authors coming out.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; decision; governator; tookiewilliams

1 posted on 12/12/2005 5:34:43 AM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Freeping a man who must decide if another man should receive clemency is about the most disgusting thing I have ever heard.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 5:36:12 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

It seems to me that if the governor grants clemency, he will in effect say that the death penalty should be repealed for it is no longer "operable" in liberal CA. It would make no sense to keep the death penalty law on the books if this individual is granted clemency.


3 posted on 12/12/2005 5:36:40 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

That's Crips, not Crypts.


4 posted on 12/12/2005 5:41:14 AM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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To: Raycpa
Freeping a man who must decide if another man should receive clemency is about the most disgusting thing I have ever heard.

Someone's on a high horse today. He's a governor and its perfectly acceptable for his constituents to call him and express their hope that justice will be served. It's moot though, since he's already decided to let Tookie die. If he were going to spare him, he would have announced it by now. He's just trying to minimize the possible rioting or unrest at this point that could result from the execution.

5 posted on 12/12/2005 5:45:44 AM PST by Saint Reagan
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To: Saint Reagan

Then lets start freeping jurists deciding death sentences. We might as well start early.


6 posted on 12/12/2005 5:47:05 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
The California State Supremes have given Arnold cover.

They decided NO so he can decide NO with a clear conscience.

He brought this dilemma upon himself.

He's got very little chance of being elected again, if he even runs.

7 posted on 12/12/2005 5:48:04 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Raycpa
Then lets start freeping jurists deciding death sentences. We might as well start early.

Governors are public figured elected by their constiuents to enforce the will of the legislature. Juries are not. Big difference!

8 posted on 12/12/2005 5:52:51 AM PST by Saint Reagan
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To: xrp

Crabs is more like it.


9 posted on 12/12/2005 6:05:07 AM PST by Sterco
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To: Saint Reagan
He's just trying to minimize the possible rioting or unrest at this point that could result from the execution.

He's letting the media build the chances of a riot. ABC News radio leads every hour with Tookie, voting in Baghdad doesn't get as much air time. IMO Arnold should have nipped all this angst in the bud.

10 posted on 12/12/2005 6:26:02 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Saint Reagan
In this case the elected official is charged with protecting all of us from having a judicial system making a mistake before applying the death penalty. It protects all of us.

If you want to turn that process into a mob mentality, then I will call that disgusting. You go ahead and stand on the steps and yell for Barabbas.
11 posted on 12/12/2005 6:27:18 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Carry_Okie

C_O: "Governor foments rioting."
A_S: "Governor craves regaining lost adulation."

Awfully, I think your version is much closer. And matches most of my other inclinations. I am going soft.


12 posted on 12/12/2005 7:18:26 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Awfully, I think your version is much closer.

I don't think it is intentional on his part. Arnold followed a similar pattern on his last death warrant.

13 posted on 12/12/2005 7:21:42 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I don't think it is intentional on his part.

You mean given a choice of evil or stupid, he's the latter. And please remind me: which is the stupid party?

Maybe his stupidity proves we've been wrong about Arnold: he fits right in with GOP leadership. (Or does that prove that we've right about GOP leadership?)

14 posted on 12/12/2005 8:09:50 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
You mean given a choice of evil or stupid, he's the latter.

Not always.

15 posted on 12/12/2005 8:12:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie

That's okay. He's played a broken clock before.


16 posted on 12/12/2005 8:15:43 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Oh, and after inferring your double-entendre, same answer.


17 posted on 12/12/2005 8:22:01 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: Raycpa
Then lets start freeping jurists deciding death sentences.

Jurors objectively examine evidence and determine facts. Jurists (judges) objectively study the law and apply it to particular proceedings. What the Governor does in determining clemency is not an objective exercise. The Governor is, to a large extent, a servant of the people. His clemency decisions should be cognizant of what the people determine to be the purpose of the law in our state. I think it is perfectly legitimate for Californians to contact their Governor and demand that justice, as they see it, be done.

18 posted on 12/12/2005 8:52:20 AM PST by rogue yam
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