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Twenty five reasons why Democrats have no chance in 2006
various | January 30, 2006 | self

Posted on 01/30/2006 5:26:09 AM PST by jmaroneps37

Every even year since 1996, the political “experts” tell us the Democrats will win back the House. While these people are both boring and annoying they do have to be answered. Here’s a formidable list of problems the minority party will have to overcome to win in November.

1Corinthians Ch 7: 29, 31.

"I tell you, brothers, the time is running out........... For the world in its present form is passing away."

1) America self identifies 35% to 18% conservative over liberal. Voters see the Democrats as socialists and reject their ideas.

2) Florida’s demographics

The Florida State Republican Party’s report for 2005 included these points: the party collected $12 million last year - almost three times as much money as the Florida Democratic Party.

Of much more importance, it said more than 50,000 voters registered as Republicans, compared with a gain of only 3,640 new Democrats.

This is what happens when 1100 new people a day come to Florida. They are not going to Florida to vote Democrat, and by November there will be another 300,000 new people in the Sunshine State. That would mean another 50,000 new Republican voters. People don’t move to a new area, take the time and effort to register, and then stay home on Election Day. This will get us even more seats in Florida including the Senate seat. This is a peek into the future of other growing Red states.

3) The war in Iraq is not the quagmire the black table -phone media and the Democrats have spent the last three years telling us it is. Americans know this and have stop responding to these lies half truths and distortions.

4) Big Labor’s pull back from the Democrats will hurt them. In some races it will be the difference, no matter how the old media will try to spin it.

5) Howard Dean has crossed the line from “not helpful” to hurtful.

His antics will continue to drive people away. This is why we ended 2005 up 2 to 1 in money raised so far this year.

6) No voter fraud means trouble in many locations for Democrats

7) The loss of Louisiana after the investigation

8) The conservative blogosphere: 527 times stronger

The black table- phone media’s rathered evidence doesn’t go unchallenged any longer.

9) Blacks are slowly leaving the Democrats

The Democrats have no margin for shrinkage of the Black vote. If Republicans start to regularly get only 15% of Blacks, Democrats can’t win in many places. Already 1/3 of Blacks under 35 self identify as Republicans. In 2004 President Bush got 17% of the Black vote in Ohio. That means Blacks actually reelected Bush.

10) Democrats have come to rely on liars who give them phony poll information.

Zogby on Election Day 2004, comes to mind, so does Pew.

11) Redistricting make the numbers impossible

The effects of Republican controlled re-districting has resulted in a condition where only 20 or so House seats can be called "competitive" By any measure, however, there are 2 Democrats at a disadvantage for every Republican at a disadvantage. Current conditions put some Congressional Democrats in clear inescapable danger. John Barrow 12th Georgia, Charlie Melancon 3rd Louisiana, Chet Edwards 17th Texas Melissa Bean 8th Ill., come to mind.

12) Doom and gloom, rooting for the terrorists, doesn’t sell very well

With no escape strategy in hand, Democrats are rumbling toward the November elections as the American Al Qaeda Party. The things Democrats have said are very toxic to good politics. Even if they shut up this very day, their words would still be burning coals destroying the minority party’s chances for victory in 2006.

13) Scandals can carry you just so far

There is a theory in Behavioral Science that holds that “When the stimulus is constant, it disappears.” We saw this in the Clinton years. Scandal after true and real scandal tumbled out of the Whitehouse, but nothing much came from them. He beat impeachment and gave us the finger by selling pardons as he walked out the door, still in office.

14) America knows and understands the Democrats stand for:

Your 13year old daughter can have an abortion without telling you;

Two queers (their word not mine) “marrying” is a healthy alternate lifestyle;

America is a force for evil in the world;

An American defeat in Iraq would be a good thing;

America is always wrong. Europe is superior to America;

We should cut and run in a quick surrender in Iraq;

Hollywood values are American values;

Voters are stupid and liberal activist judges know better;

Patriotism is child like and corny;

School prayer was the cause of problems in our government schools;

All money belongs to Washington;

15) Evangelicals are in the game to stay

Another problem for the Democrats is the Christian mega church movement. The Evangelical Christian has become the GOP’s Black voter. They were a very powerful force in 2004. They will be again in November.

16) Banning guns still won’t win elections

The Democrat’s anti gun positions have helped the Republicans gain and hold seats and states. Their gun grabbing intentions gave us West Virginia, and helped us keep Arkansas and Tennessee. The tilt of West Virginia went from Bush +5 in 2000 to Bush +14 in 2004. No matter what the “experts” say this threatens Sen. Robert Byrd’s seat. Democrats will still be forced to lie about their real positions on guns or face defeat. The joke here is that the Democrats will have to put up genuine 2nd Amendment supporters in some places, then if they elect him, they’ll have to worry that he might flip parties. It happens.

17) Cindy Sheehan is the crazy cat woman from the Simpson’s

Cindy Sheehan has become a real embarrassment to the Democrats. Nevertheless, they won’t disavow her because they hate Bush as much as she does. She is saying what they think. That it hurts them with voters is secondary.

18) Queers (that’s their word not mine) marrying? No thanks.

In 2004, all eleven state level efforts to further the cause of queer (their word not mine) “marriage” went down to defeat. The Democrats are “married” to gay marriage. It hurt them last time, and it will continue to hurt them as long as they hold on to this destructive idea.

19) The candidate Gap

America’s continued roll to the right has brought the GOP to a position of dominance in the pool of potential candidates. Our bench is deeper.

Because of this advantage, Republican “down ballot” candidates are defeating Democrats, sometimes in surprising places. These defeats add up. They mean fewer new Democrat faces ready to step up to run for higher office.

This shallow bench problem has lead the Democrats to run people like Paul Hackett, a fraud who called President Bush an S.O.B. in Washington and ran commercials at home featuring Mr. Bush as if he were a Hackett supporter. Not once in his campaign, did Hackett mention he was a Democrat.

In a recent special election in Virginia, a state known as friendly territory for the military, the Democrats tried their “Democrats in uniform” strategy again. Again they had a candidate that wanted to talk only about his being an Army Ranger who served in Desert Storm. Again he avoided mentioning that he was a Democrat. Again the minority party lost.

20) The message Gap

After every losing campaign one thing is sure: The Democrats will lament their “not being able to get our message across.” Most honest observers know that when they do “get their message across” they lose.

This cycle they have made a very lame attempt to define what they stand for. The minority party has put together a vague seven point list of mays and shoulds. They probably tired very hard to get to ten items but couldn’t. They don’t stand for enough substance. Getting to ten was apparently too difficult. They have to lie to win.

21) The money Gap

The Republican National Committee received better than $102 million in 2005 and now has the largest cash-on-hand lead over the Democrats in over ten years. The RNC has $34 million in the bank. The minority party raised only $51 million and has just $5.5 million cash on hand.

22) The Economy is now in the best shape it has been in our lifetime

There are more Americans working and more Americans living in their own homes than ever before. There is less unemployment than there has been in decades. The “Tax Freedom Day” for America has moved up from May 3rd in 2000 to April 17th because of Republican tax policies. Americans feel the difference and will vote their back pockets.

23) The meaning of Bush’s improved voter numbers

In 2004, George W. Bush increased the number of votes he received in forty seven states. Why so many “experts” think nothing of this fact is a curiosity. Nevertheless, none of the issues of 2004 that got him those votes has turned against him by any honest observation.

As always, President Bush will be a great asset campaigning for GOP candidates.

24) The Clinton magic is over

“Most American voters now say there's no way they'd vote for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton if she runs for president in 2008 — while just 16 percent are firmly in her camp, a stunning new poll shows. The Gallup/CNN poll found that 51 percent say they definitely won't vote for Clinton (D-N.Y.) in 2008, another 32 percent might consider it, and only 16 percent vow to back her. That means committed anti-Hillary voters outnumber pro-Hillary voters by 3-1.” Gallup Poll results.

Mrs. Bill Clinton will be of little value campaigning for other Democrats.

25) Bungling the Alito hearings

The question for the minority party in respect to its disgraceful conduct during the Alito Hearing, is not IF it has hurt the Democrats, but how deeply it hurt them.

26) The never ending millstones around their neck

After seventy five years of drawing power from a conglomeration of special interest groups, the weight of these groups has now turned on them and is collapsing the minority party.

The Democrats have become indistinguishable from America’s fringe groups. Identifying with these groups has now become a millstone pulling down the Democrats

The Feminists are now a millstone pulling them down.

The NARAL is a millstone pulling them down.

The Big Labor is a millstone pulling them down.

The anti war crazies of moveon.org are a millstone pulling them down.

Gay “marriage” supporters are a millstone pulling them down.

The affirmative action lobby is a millstone pulling them down.

Hollywood is a millstone pulling them down. When “Brokeback Mountain” wins all the Oscars, it will have the same effect that “The Passion of the Christ” had, but for the exact opposite reason.

The National Educational Association is a millstone pulling them down.

The lying black table phone media has become a millstone pulling them down.

The left wing blogs are turned on them and are pulling them down.

The anti second amendment “Brady” groups are pulling them down.

And we have to be afraid of the Democrats?

Yes there are 26 but twenty five sounds better.


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Ok, Stuie, larry and Little Dick what do you say? Do you have any real answers to these points?
1 posted on 01/30/2006 5:26:11 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Very well done! Thanks


2 posted on 01/30/2006 5:34:16 AM PST by backinthefold (Fat teddy does NOT have man boobs, please refer to them correctly as Moobs)
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To: jmaroneps37

Nice


3 posted on 01/30/2006 5:34:55 AM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Now THAT'S exactly the sort of story I like to log on and READ! Good 'un!

BTTT!


4 posted on 01/30/2006 5:35:40 AM PST by Capn TrVth
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To: jmaroneps37
26. Helen Thomas
27. Michael Moore
28. Whoopi
29. Moonbat Sheehan
30. Howard Dean (should be number 1)
etc...
5 posted on 01/30/2006 5:36:25 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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To: jmaroneps37

The Red states get redder and the Blue states get bluer.........


6 posted on 01/30/2006 5:36:48 AM PST by Red Badger (...I will bless them that bless thee and those who curse thee I will turn into Liberals..........)
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To: jmaroneps37
6) No voter fraud means trouble in many locations for Democrats

No voter fraud??? Never happen...

7 posted on 01/30/2006 5:36:53 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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To: jmaroneps37

bump to finish later - very good so far


8 posted on 01/30/2006 5:36:53 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: jmaroneps37
14) America knows and understands the Democrats stand for: Your 13year old daughter can have an abortion without telling you; Two queers (their word not mine) “marrying” is a healthy alternate lifestyle; America is a force for evil in the world; An American defeat in Iraq would be a good thing; America is always wrong. Europe is superior to America; We should cut and run in a quick surrender in Iraq; Hollywood values are American values; Voters are stupid and liberal activist judges know better; Patriotism is child like and corny; School prayer was the cause of problems in our government schools; All money belongs to Washington;

What a great summation. I bet you're a lawyer. This list is going in my favorites for future use. Thanks.

9 posted on 01/30/2006 5:36:55 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: HEY4QDEMS
24) The Clinton magic is over

It wasn't magic, it was sleight of hand.......

10 posted on 01/30/2006 5:39:03 AM PST by Red Badger (...I will bless them that bless thee and those who curse thee I will turn into Liberals..........)
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To: jmaroneps37
9) Blacks are slowly leaving the Democrats

I hear this every election cycle but the numbers never reflect that.

I guess it all depends on how much emphasis is put on "Slowly".
11 posted on 01/30/2006 5:39:48 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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To: jmaroneps37
17) Cindy Sheehan is the crazy cat woman from the Simpson’s

That's a good one. The whole post is excellent analysis, btw.
12 posted on 01/30/2006 5:39:52 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: jmaroneps37

"11) Redistricting make the numbers impossible"

In my opinion, caving to black interest groups after the 1990 census is the reason the dems were taken out in 1994. The damage was done and can never be repaired by the dems.


13 posted on 01/30/2006 5:40:10 AM PST by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
So many good comments here:

Evangelicals are in the game to stay.

Another problem for the Democrats is the Christian mega church movement. The Evangelical Christian has become the GOP’s Black voter. They were a very powerful force in 2004. They will be again in November.

This one really sums up my entrance into the arena of "paying close attention" to what goes on in Washington. I really think they lost it with the Gay Marriage movement. They awoke the sleeping giant.The gay issue also resulted in a strong movement of blacks to the Republican side.

14 posted on 01/30/2006 5:43:37 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: jmaroneps37

Note tagline.


15 posted on 01/30/2006 5:43:52 AM PST by Savage Beast ("Democrats are rumbling toward the November elections as the American Al Qaeda Party." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: jmaroneps37

Do not underestimate your enemy. Every one of use could list a number of reasons why our side could be in trouble.


16 posted on 01/30/2006 5:44:36 AM PST by blackdiamondracer
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To: jmaroneps37

I must keep repeating: MRS. BILL CLINTON.

Think about it.


17 posted on 01/30/2006 5:45:25 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: jmaroneps37
The rat party needs to be banned and outlawed. The choice on ballots should be republicans vs libertarians, i.e. a legitimate left/centrist/religious party vs a legitimate laissez faire conservative/capitalist party.

At a minimum we need runoff elections.

18 posted on 01/30/2006 5:48:04 AM PST by ironwoodchuck
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To: jmaroneps37
Democrats are still formidable foes. They control the big cities; many as the single party. In Pennsylvania, Democrats are the only political party in inner city Pittsburgh, and Philadelphia. Washington, DC, is the same. That is a lot of people whose votes count Democrat, without the Democrats having to do anything.

Hence, I think, now is the time locally for pushing for our preferred primary candidates, and unifying against Democrats.

19 posted on 01/30/2006 5:48:27 AM PST by JohnCliftn (In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Good Will.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Excellent post!
It was only a matter of time before voters saw the Dems for what they are- part of the evil triad of "dems, unions and organized crime". I can fully believe that Kennedy did not hear the national horse laff as he railed on about the lack of ethics in the republican party.
As Rush says: "Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment."


20 posted on 01/30/2006 5:48:35 AM PST by 13Sisters76
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To: ElectricStrawberry
No voter fraud??? Never happen...

You beat me to it. This'll never happen. In fact, keep an eye on those dwindling baby boomer votes.

Anyway, just curious why this was one of the list.

21 posted on 01/30/2006 5:54:56 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
They awoke the sleeping giant.

That is exactly what they did. I wrote a long post after Kerry lost about why Christians and Southerners refused to vote for him, which cost him the election.
22 posted on 01/30/2006 5:55:10 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: jmaroneps37

The GOP should combat these biased and inaccurate polls that MSM uses in an attempt to brainwash the Aamerican public.


23 posted on 01/30/2006 5:55:28 AM PST by KenmcG414 (wHAT'ST)
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To: ironwoodchuck
The rat party needs to be banned and outlawed. The choice on ballots should be republicans vs libertarians, i.e. a legitimate left/centrist/religious party vs a legitimate laissez faire conservative/capitalist party.

The problem with that is that libertarianism generally doesn't play well with evangelicals.
24 posted on 01/30/2006 5:57:30 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: jmaroneps37

26. They suck.



25 posted on 01/30/2006 5:59:01 AM PST by Fintan (One day we'll look back on this and plow into a parked car.)
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To: jmaroneps37
11) Redistricting make the numbers impossible ... The effects of Republican controlled re-districting has resulted in a condition where only 20 or so House seats can be called "competitive"...

The incumbents have feathered their own nests. The new Computer-Aided redistricting is so precise, so powerful, that the vast majority of incumbents have completely removed any threat to their power.

This is not a good thing. This will lead to a immovable ruling class that will not be responsive to the voter's interests.

But it works for us in the short term, so I guess we shouldn't complain. If I were a Democrat, I would be really PO'ed.

26 posted on 01/30/2006 6:01:44 AM PST by gridlock (It's not really a circus until a Kennedy steps out of the clown car...)
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To: jmaroneps37
This is pretty silly.
Both parties get about 35-40% of the the vote free. Those voters will not abandon the party unless they have been totally alienated.
This leaves 20-30% of the votes in play. These people are too stupid to remember what happened yesterday, much less last year and too shallow to have a political philosophy.

The Demoncrats have an advantage - they can bid for these people's votes with taxpayer money, promising 'em goodies. Since the money costs 'em nothing, there is no limit to what they can offer.
If the 'Pubbies do this (and they have been doing it lately...) they start alienating their base - cutting into their "free" 35-40%. Not to mention bankrupting the country (something that doesn't bother Demoncrats...)

Unless the 'Pubbies can sell conservatism (a tough sell to the idiotic "uncommitted" vote) or outbid the Demoncrats, they could lose. And if they give in and try to outbid the Dems, we lose anyway... 2006 could be a bad year.
27 posted on 01/30/2006 6:07:10 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: ironwoodchuck

"The rat party needs to be banned and outlawed. The choice on ballots should be republicans vs libertarians, i.e. a legitimate left/centrist/religious party vs a legitimate laissez faire conservative/capitalist party."

The krazy Kos Kidz believe that Bush, and future "fascist" Republican leaders will in fact ban their dissent. But I wouldn't expect a lover of liberty to deny them the right to participate in politics.

Their views are anti-American and they have no use for this constitution. But they should be given the chance to democratically change or eliminate it. That is, if the will of the majority of the people is against the libertarian founding, there is no need to trap them. But I don't believe we've "moved on." Elections are a great way to repudiate their statism.

Besides, if these krazies didn't have a political outlet, what do they do? Become terrorists?


28 posted on 01/30/2006 6:09:38 AM PST by Frank T
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To: ironwoodchuck

The choice on ballots should be republicans vs libertarians, i.e. a legitimate left/centrist/religious party vs a legitimate laissez faire conservative/capitalist party.

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The Libertarian party has a strong inclination to become extremely left wing. There are influences from radical environmentalist groups who like the elitist tendencies of the Libertarians. With relatively minor modifications the Lib party could become a neo communist party.
Far fetched? Check out the platform. It reeks of demogogery.


29 posted on 01/30/2006 6:12:44 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: jmaroneps37
Very well done in terms of making a case for Republicans defeating Democrats. However, when the debate is changed slightly your case breaks down to a very disconcerting degree.

First, you have one point that is flawed in a major way:
22) The Economy is now in the best shape it has been in our lifetime.

By the time the fall elections roll around, it will be clear to most Americans that there are significant flaws in the economy and when people begin to think about the economy that will be "supporting" the boomers when they retire, it will gradually dawn on an ever increasing number of Americans that the existing socialistic model of our economy which is cast in concrete by current law is actually terminally flawed.

The disconcerting part of your case relates to labeling and how products can change. They still call them FORDS, but there is a vast difference between a 1930's Ford and 2006 Ford, or a 1930's airplane and a 747 or F18. The problem with current labeling is that a 2006 Republican is much more like a 1950's Democrat than a Reagan or Goldwater Republican. The Democrats have become radical socialists, but Republicans have been following the Democrats to the left. What are the "big" things Republicans have done under Bush? Campaign Finance Reform, Transportation and Farm Bills designed to gorge a hog, and Medicare Prescription Drugs, not to mention appointing a lunatic to head the Federal Reserve. Where have Republicans balked? Complete voluntary privatization of Social Security, ending the Department of the Education, ending the IRS, and except for genuine conservatives threatening to boycott the party, the Meirs appointment to the Court.

While the labels might lead one to think that Republicans have been winning and show genuine promise of continuing to win and therefore the country is becoming more conservative and returning to its Constitutional roots, the reality is very different. The problem with this scenario is that the Democrats are becomming communists and the Republicans are adopting the positions being vacated by the Democrats. While the labels are the same, the politics haven't changed, only now it's the Republicans in office who are becoming the closet big government socialists. It is very important not to be fooled by this.

30 posted on 01/30/2006 6:13:06 AM PST by HopefulPatriot (Freedom means making your own choices instead of government making the choice for you.)
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To: Red Badger

I agree, but is Ohio turning blue? With the layoffs and employment situation...I just see that state turning more Rat. But as Ohio turns more RAT, Florida turns more republican.

In the end the Republicans are in the better situation because the Rats get the votes of the depressed states where the population will be shrkinking (or growing slower than the boom states). Republicans get the votes from the boom states which means every 10 years they get an edge in house seats.


31 posted on 01/30/2006 6:15:16 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: JamesP81
Christians and Southerners refused to vote for him, which cost him the election.

Add to that a portion of the Black population that we never hear about because they are hard working, family oriented citizens. They reared their heads big time when the gay marriage issue came up.

32 posted on 01/30/2006 6:16:11 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: 13Sisters76
It was only a matter of time before voters saw the Dems for what they are- part of the evil triad of "dems, unions and organized crime"
33 posted on 01/30/2006 6:16:38 AM PST by Frank T
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To: HopefulPatriot
By the time the fall elections roll around, it will be clear to most Americans that there are significant flaws in the economy and when people begin to think about the economy that will be "supporting" the boomers when they retire, it will gradually dawn on an ever increasing number of Americans that the existing socialistic model of our economy which is cast in concrete by current law is actually terminally flawed.

Unfortunately, most left leaning societies tend to go more left when confronted with losing their socialist perks. They just steal more from those that work and give to those that don't. And that pushes them futher into decline...until they eventually collapse. The US is not near collapse economically, so until that happens we won't see any real reform.

34 posted on 01/30/2006 6:17:51 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: gridlock

Excellent post. What is not said is how the Democrats lose by constantly trying to push the envelope on causes that are clearly losing causes. They do so on principle...and by thinking that, with the media on their side, they can play a "running game"...keep going for the first down while getting tackled every play.

Also: the Dems have stupidly thrown away their once most important demographic: the single white male. In the 60s, it sure wasn't resistance to the draft that got young males into being Democrats. The Dems could have used this formula for 100 years to keep single males on their side vs married males. But, instead, they abandoned white males lock stock and barrel.

Their second most important traditional demographic, health nuts, are being ignored. The Dems haven't even been smart enough to invent a new "asbestos" for Heaven's sake. In the 70s, Dem victories were often all about "ecology". In 1996, Clinton took Dole to the cleaners on the smoking issue. Since then, the Dems have clearly forgotten and abandoned their focus on "ecology." Now their platform is:

1) Treason overseas (no fighting enemies)
2) Homosexuality is better than Heterosexuality
3) Treason at home (no listening to foreign enemies)

I can't think of anything else they seem to stand for these days.


35 posted on 01/30/2006 6:21:20 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: JamesP81

"The problem with that is that libertarianism generally doesn't play well with evangelicals."

Really? Aren't evangelical Christians most predominant in America, which is based in part in protecting individual freedom of religion? They don't do too well, as a movement, in more statist countries.

The two are tied together. It's traditionalist communitarianism that doesn't play well with libertarian ideas.


36 posted on 01/30/2006 6:21:55 AM PST by Frank T
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To: Amos the Prophet

"With relatively minor modifications the Lib party could become a neo communist party. "

Really? I thought they were the party of "leave me alone". That doesn't sound like communism.


37 posted on 01/30/2006 6:25:39 AM PST by webstersII
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To: for-q-clinton

The 2010 Census will make America's red states overwhelmingly predominant. But the 2008 election will be fought using the current formula...which has Ohio front and center with a powerful 20 points.

Sure, Florida is more and more Republican...but Ohio may figure prominantly in the 2008 election.


38 posted on 01/30/2006 6:25:54 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: jmaroneps37
America’s continued roll to the right has brought the GOP to a position of dominance in the pool of potential candidates. Our bench is deeper.

Yet this depth doesn't seem to show in upcoming Senate races. The GOP is having a hard time going after vulnerable 'rats because no serious candidate seems to want to run, e.g. Washington state vs. Cantwell.

39 posted on 01/30/2006 6:29:08 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: HopefulPatriot

"The problem with this scenario is that the Democrats are becomming communists and the Republicans are adopting the positions being vacated by the Democrats."

...which would be an explantion as to why the more unhinged part of the Dems base act the way they do, in spite of the fact that their behavior hurts their party. In the long term, their agenda gets implemented. If the elitist progressives decided to move their party back to the "center," how would things like universal health care and reducing the military be put on the table?

It's actually disturbing to read about a state rep here, and congressman there, flipping parties and becoming republican. How is NYC mayor Bloomberg a conservative? He switched parties not long before the election he won, and it was opportunism. The Dems become *too* left for some lite-socialists, and they think they can just move with their world view intact into the other viable party.

I'd be happy to see the day that the GOP activist base gives McCain a fat lip when he tries to win the next primaries, and he leaves to join the Democrats. Why not *they* go rightward, not us?


40 posted on 01/30/2006 6:34:08 AM PST by Frank T
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To: jmaroneps37

Good stuff:

Democrats stand for:

Your 13year old daughter can have an abortion without telling you;

Two queers (their word not mine) “marrying” is a healthy alternate lifestyle;

America is a force for evil in the world;

An American defeat in Iraq would be a good thing;

America is always wrong. Europe is superior to America;

We should cut and run in a quick surrender in Iraq;

Hollywood values are American values;

Voters are stupid and liberal activist judges know better;

Patriotism is child like and corny;

School prayer was the cause of problems in our government schools;

All money belongs to Washington;


41 posted on 01/30/2006 6:34:47 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: GermanBusiness

Completely agree, but my point was to the long-term situation. Sure there will be election hiccups, but the Republicans are in the driver's seat for the next 15 years (assuming they don't screw up too badly and that the Rats keep pandering to the fringe left).

If the Rats were smart they'd move to the right of Bush on many/most issues and then there'd be a political earthquake. Stay where they are in respect to environment, but pass sensible legislation (like ANWAR drilling and offshore natural gas drilling). Let go of the fringe abortion lobby and play it more mainstream (like abortion is ok for the first trimester only--anything else must be to save the life of the mother). Drop the gun issue and push more strict laws for violations of existing laws. Stop gov't increased spending and no new taxes. Kill earmarks. Stop illegal immigration.

The problem with that is where would the RATs get their funding? They are already losing to the Republicans and the fringe left won't fund that platform...so they'd be SOL for a few years. But needless to say they can't move that direction on nearly any of those issues because the fringe left won't let them. Unfortunatley, this allows the Republican party to drift left and buy votes from the middle because they know they have a lot of wiggle room and buying votes is easier and more fun than running a principled campaign and office.


42 posted on 01/30/2006 6:38:19 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: jmaroneps37

All of this is true
But complacency can still kill us


43 posted on 01/30/2006 6:51:15 AM PST by 1903A3
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To: Red Badger
"...the Blue states get bluer"

The blue states are turning purple

44 posted on 01/30/2006 6:52:05 AM PST by Pietro
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To: jmaroneps37
Why it really isn't that great: America self identifies 35% to 18% conservative over liberal. Voters see the Democrats as socialists and reject their ideas.

But they don't act that way. Furthermore, both Gore and Kerry came within a single state of winning. Most people don't like to be labeled extreme on either side--it does not, however, change who they really are.

Florida’s demographics

Overall favors Republicans, true. Just remember: it was won by a hair in 2000. These people are fully capable of supporting a Democrat.

The war in Iraq is not the quagmire the black table -phone media and the Democrats have spent the last three years telling us it is. Americans know this and have stop responding to these lies half truths and distortions.

The war in Iraq is going neither so well as Bush says nor so badly as the Democrats are saying. The problem is that most of the American people hear that it is a quagmire from the media and are starting to believe it. To sum up: Iraq is not a positive subject for the Republicans

Big Labor’s pull back from the Democrats will hurt them. In some races it will be the difference, no matter how the old media will try to spin it.

Any pullback hurts and yes, it may hurt them next election--but probably not on a massive scale.

Howard Dean has crossed the line from “not helpful” to hurtful.

To the contrary, Dean is perfect for the Democrats right where he is. I truly believe that Dean was made the DNC chair to get him out of the way. See, he would always be a threat to win the nomination, but never a threat to go all the way. Most people think he is a little off his rocker, sure. But for most of them, it will not change how they actually vote.

No voter fraud means trouble in many locations for Democrats

True, but voter fraud changes few races and what makes you think it is about to stop?

The loss of Louisiana after the investigation

The "investigation" is a sham. If it does not condemn Bush it will be shoved under a rug. If it succors Bush, the media will declaim it and it will eventually vaporize.

The conservative blogosphere: 527 times stronger

The majority of people still watch CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN (no one watches MSNBC) or read the NYT. The view of the average person is colored far more by the MSM than by the blogosphere.

Blacks are slowly leaving the Democrats

Shrinkage is minor and not enough time has passed to see how things work out. Bush was a state away from losing in 2004 to a BAD candidate. Clinton, evil though he was, was a great politician. Kerry is a pathetic one--and Bush couldn't crush him.

Democrats have come to rely on liars who give them phony poll information.

From an electoral point of view, it doesn't matter.

Redistricting make the numbers impossible

Temporary. Advantage/disadvantage does not stipulate victory.

Doom and gloom, rooting for the terrorists, doesn’t sell very well

But that is not how most people will view it. They will take the doom and gloom as genuine criticism and, except in the most egregious cases, not even realize who the Democrats really favor.

Scandals can carry you just so far

But probably just far enough. All they need to do is make the other person look worse than themselves...and they're succeeding. Most people never see just how flimsy the charges are.

America knows and understands the Democrats stand for:

To the contrary, most Americans (the liberals and then the "moderates") don't understand in the slightest.

Evangelicals are in the game to stay

If the Republicans keep antagonizing them by snubbing their goals and priorities, maybe not.

Banning guns still won’t win elections

But "reducing crime" does, and that's how they sell it.

Cindy Sheehan is the crazy cat woman from the Simpson’s

True. Once again, most people will not project this onto other Democratic candidates.

Queers (that’s their word not mine) marrying? No thanks.

Most people feel that way, but not strongly enough to repudiate the Democrats, who are blatantly in favor of it. The people who regard this as a defining issue would never vote Democrat anyway, so no loss.

The candidate Gap

Disagree. Democrats have some decent prospects on the horizon and certainly are no worse off than the Republicans.

The message Gap

They have a message. Not a meaningful one, but they have it. Because Kerry was a bad candidate who almost won on this "message gap" I think we have to assume that a decent candidate can readily win.

The money Gap

Soon to be closed. Who do the Democrats have behind them for fundraising? Practically all of Hollywood. Quite a force in the monetary arena. The Clintons have also proven that, through legitimate means or no, the Democrats can raise ridiculous amounts of money.

The Economy is now in the best shape it has been in our lifetime

But the media has convinced the "middle-of-the road" people that this is not the case.

The meaning of Bush’s improved voter numbers

He ran against a bad candidate and, if things are as glorious as you say, he should have done a lot better.

The Clinton magic is over

Didn't we say that after Lewinsky? You're a fool to count them out now.

Bungling the Alito hearings

Alito will be confirmed, but I can't bring myself to believe that anything they have done will haunt them. They have done so much smearing in the past that one more time won't make a difference.

The never ending millstones around their neck

Those "millstones" comprise the majority of the party and give them a legitimate chance to win.

45 posted on 01/30/2006 6:54:06 AM PST by Seņor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Frank T
Really? Aren't evangelical Christians most predominant in America, which is based in part in protecting individual freedom of religion? They don't do too well, as a movement, in more statist countries.

That's all very true. What doesn't jive well with Evangelicals is Libertarian insistence that law not be based on morality (can't legislate morality is the meme you most often hear). Libertarians want to legalize drugs as well, and most evangelicals are dead set against this idea. A great number of libertarians also favor legalizing gay marriage which evangelicals are also against. Discounting Libertarians for Life (which is a rather small group within the party), libertarians also think that abortion law as it is should not be changed, and this really doesn't play well with Evangelicals. Libertarians also believe that the Founders did not create our country based on Judeo-Christian values, which simply is not true. Evangelicals also don't care for this.

In short, evangelicals and libertarians probably more-or-less agree on foreign policy, but domestic/social policy they're like night and day. Furthermore, the pro-capitalist ideas of the right are preferred by most evangelical christians to the somewhat more regulated ideas coming from the libertarian party.

Speaking as an evangelical Christian, there's just not enough to like where libertarians are concerned for me to vote for them.
46 posted on 01/30/2006 7:01:16 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: for-q-clinton

If I were being paid $100,000 per year as an advisor to the Democrats, I would suggest that they do with their core constituents (gays and anti-war nuts) what the Republicans often do with their "static core": throwing them a bone or two but otherwise ignoring them. If I were a Democrat leader, I would focus on:

1) Term limits for abortion: politically speaking, a new federal law on this would probably cause the Supreme Court NOT to overturn Roe vs Wade. The Democrats can preemptively preserve Roe vs Wade with federal abortion term limit legislation and they could win in 2008 by consistently asking the Republicans why they are against term limits. The independents would melt away from the GOP at this point if the GOP then holds to a completely pro-life position.

I am not saying I would like this to happen so much as: this would be a politically intelligent move on the part of the Dems.

2) Federal anti-smoking legislation: 70% of Americans would favor smoking bans even in bars. 90% favor smoking bans in public buildings and restaurants. Majorities are in favor of a lot tougher restrictions. Democrats could split the Republicans down the middle on this, while Republican politicians might be too slow to get out of the line of fire and come out on the winning side. Only smokers care about "smokers' rights" and only 27% of American males smoke while only 21% of American females smoke.

I am sure there are other topics where the Dems, if they came to the right on the war on terror, could rip the Republicans to shreds...but my point is that they are not smart enough to even think of the ones above. They still seem to think that being pro-gay and pro-terrorist is going to get them somewhere. They are ideologically wired to be "against the white heterosexual male"...so they can't even begin to think that maybe they could gain power by concentrating on other topics.


47 posted on 01/30/2006 7:02:09 AM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: GermanBusiness

That'll be enough out of you.

No one cares to hear how your Teutonic blockheaded thinking will improve the "List".

Improvements were not requested. Niether were debates.

What'd ya think about "the American Al Queda Party"?
Never mind.


48 posted on 01/30/2006 7:09:45 AM PST by CBart95
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To: jmaroneps37

Bravo


49 posted on 01/30/2006 7:15:34 AM PST by cusp
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To: HopefulPatriot
While the labels might lead one to think that Republicans have been winning and show genuine promise of continuing to win and therefore the country is becoming more conservative and returning to its Constitutional roots, the reality is very different. The problem with this scenario is that the Democrats are becomming communists and the Republicans are adopting the positions being vacated by the Democrats. While the labels are the same, the politics haven't changed, only now it's the Republicans in office who are becoming the closet big government socialists. It is very important not to be fooled by this.






Depressing, by all too true!
50 posted on 01/30/2006 7:46:05 AM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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