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Power Play? Board boots Baptist pastor in flap over speaking in tongues
Journal Now.com ^ | Saturday, February 4, 2006 | By Greg Horton

Posted on 02/04/2006 2:44:05 AM PST by WKB

ENID, Okla.

A Southern Baptist pastor being removed from a national board governing worldwide evangelism says he doesn't speak in tongues himself but is defending missionaries who do to keep the denomination "broad in our cooperation."

The Rev. Wade Burleson, the senior pastor of Emmanuel Baptist Church in Enid, said that the board of trustees of the Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board wants him to be removed because of his criticism of a policy change enacted by the IMB in November 2005. It stated that any candidate speaking in tongues, even privately, "has eliminated himself or herself from being a representative of the IMB of the SBC."

In a statement, the International Mission Board says it wants him removed not because of the tongues issue, but because of "broken trust and resistance to accountability." Burleson's removal depends on a June vote of the entire Southern Baptist Convention, but the controversy is being watched beyond Baptist circles, largely because of the dispute over tongues, an issue that has rankled many religious groups.

Tongues is described in the Bible as a spiritual language used by early Christians, enabled by the Holy Spirit. The issue of whether it is still relevant, or appropriate, for modern times has divided many denominations.

Burleson says he is not most concerned about tongues, but a willingness to remove ministers who disagree with what he and others consider "nonessential doctrines." Since the changes in the mission board's policy were made official, Burleson has been writing open letters and explanations of his position on his blog, kerussocharis.blogspot.com.

He has repeatedly referred to those who wanted the policy changes as "crusading conservatives."

"Crusading conservatives seek to convince you that their interpretation of the Bible on nonessential doctrines must be accepted by all conservatives, and if someone chooses to not conform to their specific interpretation, then he/she is removed from service," Burleson said.

Burleson says he considers himself a "cooperating conservative," which he defines as a person who is in agreement on the major doctrines of the Bible but gives freedom in areas of interpretation regarding nonessential doctrines. The SBC has long considered the Reformation's rallying cries of faith alone, grace alone, Scripture alone and Christ alone as summing up the major doctrines of Scripture.

The use of the spiritual gift known as tongues or glossolalia would fall into the nonessential category. Southern Baptists have a policy that prohibits their ministers from using tongues in a public setting.

"I do not want people to lose sight of the real issue," Burleson said. "It is not about the new policies. It is the direction we seem to be moving as a convention that shuts out dissent and desires conformity in the interpretation of minor doctrines."

Burleson said he does not practice a "private prayer language," the phrase some use for speaking in tongues, nor does anyone he would consider a close friend or family member. The issue, he said, is one of principle and "is not personal."

Leon McBeth is a retired distinguished professor of church history at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. He said that the SBC has a long-standing antipathy toward what some call the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit.

"In my day, our concern over the tongues issue was a biblical one," McBeth said. "In the Bible, tongues is always associated with conflict. And tongues isn't exclusive to Christianity. The practice goes at least as far back as the Oracle at Delphi.

"Sometime in the 1970s, as a way of ameliorating opposition to tongues, some Southern Baptists began to talk about private prayer language. They believed it was less offensive than calling it tongues."

Lyle Story, a professor of biblical languages and New Testament at Regent University School of Divinity in Virginia Beach, Va., said that the Southern Baptist resistance to tongues is tied to their belief that all the miraculous gifts (healing, prophecy, tongues, miracles) ceased with the death of the original 12 apostles and the completion of the Bible.

Burleson said he is resistant to the policy change because so many Christian men and women throughout history would have violated it.

"Some of our greatest missionaries of all time had a private prayer language, including Miss Bertha Smith of China, who led thousands of people to Christ and died an ambassador of the Southern Baptist Convention at the age of 100," he said.

Jerry Rankin, the president of the International Mission Board, has acknowledged that he has practiced a private prayer language for 30 years.

"We have become so intolerant that everyone must now march in lockstep with us or we kick them out," McBeth said. "I believe this (the policy change) was part of a power play to force Rankin into retirement."

The IMB made the policy change non-retroactive, so Rankin's position as president will not be threatened.

The trustees of the IMB deny that Burleson's criticism of the policy changes had a bearing on their decision to work to remove him. In an official statement released Jan. 11, board chairman Tom Hatley said: "In taking this action, trustees addressed issues involving broken trust and resistance to accountability, not Burleson's opposition to policies recently enacted by the board."

Burleson will remain on the board until the Southern Baptist Convention meets in Greensboro in June. The convention must vote to remove him, as the IMB has no power to do so. Burleson said he remains a strong supporter of the SBC and IMB.

"The International Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention is doing the greatest work in our 161-year-old history," Burleson said. "I and my church support the IMB. We will continue to support the IMB."


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To: WKB
Where?

I have explained it twice already, but if I need to a third time OK. Jesus never told you handle snakes and drink poison as you have implied and stated. Jesus said these signs will follow. Two different things.

61 posted on 02/04/2006 5:28:35 AM PST by Always Right
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To: kjam22

Pardon my sudden outburst of 'keystrokes',...


62 posted on 02/04/2006 5:28:54 AM PST by Cvengr (<;^) Adversity in life and death is inevitable, stress is optional.)
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To: shineon

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.




So if I don't speak in tongues I am not saved?


63 posted on 02/04/2006 5:29:25 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: Cvengr

384758thkfklboart08rgnaedf;hboiafdgna amen......?


64 posted on 02/04/2006 5:30:40 AM PST by kjam22
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Speaking in tounges always sounds like spiritual Tourette's Syndrome.

That's a good way to put it - God is not the author of confusion, but of peace...(I Co. 14:33) When I see/hear people speaking in tongues or having a fit in services they are more concerned about people seeing and hearing them get 'in the Spirit', rather than giving God any glory.
65 posted on 02/04/2006 5:31:06 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: WKB
Speaking in tongues:Thbpbpthpt!Thbpbpthpt!
66 posted on 02/04/2006 5:32:28 AM PST by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: WKB

I detect a provocative question.


67 posted on 02/04/2006 5:32:38 AM PST by shineon
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To: WKB
I don't see the distinction between verse 17 and verse 18

I haven't distinguished between them. Where have I stated that Jesus told people to speak in tongues? Jesus just said those signs will follow. I don't see handling snakes, drinking poison, or speaking in tongues as a neccessity. They are all signs. In fact, you are not suppose to seek them.

68 posted on 02/04/2006 5:32:54 AM PST by Always Right
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To: WKB
So if I don't speak in tongues I am not saved?

Speaking in tounges is not evidence of salvation, it is evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit.

Millions are saved who do not speak in tounges.

69 posted on 02/04/2006 5:33:22 AM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: Always Right

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents;


Is there a different word used in the original text
for the word shall in verse 17 than the one in verse 18?


70 posted on 02/04/2006 5:34:27 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: AD from SpringBay

That would apply to those who do so privately as well?


71 posted on 02/04/2006 5:34:54 AM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: shineon
I was born into a Jewish home. I went to the Berklee College of Music. I was playing the saxophone and started speaking in tongues. I am now the Assistant Pastor at Boston's United Pentecostal Church

And that is how tongues is suppose to work. It is suppose to be a sign for non-believers.

72 posted on 02/04/2006 5:35:36 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Skooz

Speaking in tounges is not evidence of salvation, it is evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit.



That mean ole Holy Spirt didn't fill me
when I accepted Jesus as my Savior on July
21 1985. I am going to have a talk with him about that.


73 posted on 02/04/2006 5:36:24 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: shineon

I detect a provocative question.



Who me?


74 posted on 02/04/2006 5:37:46 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: WKB

I answered in 68 if you would give me time to respond before repeating your questions. You seem to have to ask the same question three times.


75 posted on 02/04/2006 5:37:46 AM PST by Always Right
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To: WKB

No need for "tongue speaking".

We have the Bible.


76 posted on 02/04/2006 5:37:48 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: WKB

Assembly of God would tell you that if you don't speak in tongues... you have not been filled with the holy spirit. And then the serious ones will quote the text that says if we're not filled with the spirit, that we are not truly saved.


77 posted on 02/04/2006 5:37:56 AM PST by kjam22
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To: Always Right

And that's exactly what happened to me.


78 posted on 02/04/2006 5:38:02 AM PST by shineon
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To: WKB
That mean ole Holy Spirt didn't fill me when I accepted Jesus as my Savior on July 21 1985. I am going to have a talk with him about that.

You are just provolking a fight. Or was it too hard to read the next sentence he wrote?

79 posted on 02/04/2006 5:39:19 AM PST by Always Right
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To: WKB

Woah.

I accepted Jesus as my Savior that very same week!

Cool.............

And your question is better answered by a panel of "experts" from various denominations who have studied that sort of thing to exhaustion. I used to deal with that question, but it made my head hurt.

I finally decided to just allow God to be God and follow Him according to the Scriptures and what He would have me do.


80 posted on 02/04/2006 5:39:27 AM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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