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Is President Bush Living In a Pre-911 World?

Posted on 02/19/2006 1:01:35 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin

The Bush administration refuses to take control of the Mexican border, despite 911 and the dangers such careless lax of security exposes our citizens to, and now the questionable outsourcing of control operations over six major U.S. ports to a company hosted out of a terrorist-sponsoring Middle-Eastern nation, a precarious enterprise which is endorsed and defended by the Bush administration to the outrage of many among both parties, Republicans and Democrats. Before 911, any political advantage and money contributions some Republicans thought they would gain from Corporate and big-Agra business which break U.S. laws through hire and exploitation of illegal aliens to the demise of the American Middle-Class, and any ill-gained “Republican” votes they thought they would garner from voter fraud of illegals or those voters who identify more with Mexico than America was in itself questionable, but after 911 it is an irresponsible and dangerous border policy. Yet, these special interests are of more importance to the Bush Administration than the safety of our citizens and our national security. Pre-911 the idea of a “Palestinian State” was questionable, and as predicted by many conservatives that such a state would simply be a Palestinian Terrorist State and a victory for Hamas was proven correct, a prediction pooh-hoed by the Bush Administration. Post -911, it is not only irresponsible of the Bush Administration to pursue and bully an Israeli retreat, it is dangerous to continue such a fantasy, as dangerous to America as it is to Israel. Now with the outsourcing of one of the most coveted targets for international Middle-Eastern terrorists - the ports of the United States - to interests which have obvious ties to the same simply attests to an uncomfortable reality to right-minded thinking Americans:

. . . that the Bush Administration is (now) living in a pre-911 view of the world, a pre-911 mentality that is likely to lead to the death of many Americans at the hands of Islamic terrorists.

There use to be what many conservatives called “The Eastern Establishment” among Republicans - the Rockefeller Republicans ("La Cooka-Rocka-Fella Republicans") whose main concern was, and is, global Corporate interests of Big Business, special interests which are of more precedent to such party hacks than American values and the interests of the United States and our people.

It looks like the Bush Administration is wearing the check-pants of this wing of the Republican Party, which isn’t conservative, and has a pre-911 view of the world, a fantasy world that is going to have consequences for the security of America and world peace in general. Giving the terrorists back-door means to attack the West doesn’t contribute to world peace, it destabilizes world peace because the same terrorists will advantage whatever weakness the West gives to them. Buying and selling, free trade, global corporate interests, all of this isn’t the same as freedom. For that matter, the Bin Laden family runs a very good construction industry - why not just let the Bin Laden family rebuild the World Trade Towers?

It is a pre-911 mentality that is going to do us harm. For me, it is clear, the Bush Administration is as much in the pre-911 mentality as the worst of some Democrats.

What is Rudy Giuliani's opinion on the port question? Has he made any statement in this regard? He is a likely candidate for the Presidency of the United States, and in that I would consider him as such a candidate, I would like to know. Where is he on this? With those who have a post-911 view of the world, or a pre-911 view of the world that the Bush Administration seems to have?


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1 posted on 02/19/2006 1:01:37 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Thanks for proving that you don't know a single fact about this story.
2 posted on 02/19/2006 1:04:32 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Can you be more specific?


3 posted on 02/19/2006 1:05:23 PM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
The Bush Administration did something for the democrats that they could not do for themselves.

Appear capable in the war on terror.

5 posted on 02/19/2006 1:06:33 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Not only has Bush turned his back on the border, he's turned his back on Texas and that is really perplexing to me.


6 posted on 02/19/2006 1:06:34 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I'm sorry this is a CONSERVATIVE website. You must of turned Right by misstake. You must of been looking for Druggies Unglued and posted this here in error.


7 posted on 02/19/2006 1:07:12 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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Really amazingly arrogant and stupid comments about a President who is responsible for more dead Islamic terrorists them the vanity poster, or his poltical idols in the Democrat Party, ever will be


9 posted on 02/19/2006 1:09:29 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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I am the only one on this site who is not worried about Dubai providing management services for our ports? The ports will STILL be under control of the local port authorities. Besides, Dubai is the Monaco, Arizona, and Switzerland of the Middle East rolled into one. Sheik Makhtoum runs the most liberal state in the region, one where women are not subject to the veil and the house, and where the free market reigns.

This controversy over the ports is a tempest in a teapot.

11 posted on 02/19/2006 1:09:46 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Good commentary.


13 posted on 02/19/2006 1:12:54 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Brian_Baldwin

The Prez said this weekend that this is a dangerous world. Maybe he knows something that puts some things such as open borders on the back burrner.


14 posted on 02/19/2006 1:13:41 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Pukin Dog

LOL, was that a note to yourself? Well... it should have been.


15 posted on 02/19/2006 1:13:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If it's a "Religion of Peace", some folks aren't very religious.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
It appears that the Administration is going to move to block the ports management issue so that is a moot point. There is a question, what is the difference between the publicity that caused Bush to take action on the ports vs. his inaction on the border?

More people yelling about M.E. port management than complaining about wets crossing the border?

It's going to take a calamity that can be traced back to an illegal border crossing before the public wake up and make the border an issue the President cannot ignore any longer.

I stand by my tagline.
16 posted on 02/19/2006 1:14:45 PM PST by Rebelbase (President Bush is a Texas jackass when it comes to Border security .)
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To: BushMeister
Can you be more specific?

Grab your bong. Anything by a Baldwin makes more sense if you're stoned.

17 posted on 02/19/2006 1:14:48 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (COLD PINK: Frigid Womyn For Peace)
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To: BushMeister
1.Port operators are not responsible for port security.

2.The UAE purchased a British company that is already performing operations at the ports in question. How is it not outsourcing when the Brits are doing the job, but becomes outsourcing with the British company is purchased by the UAE?

3. The security angle on this purchase has been investigated by the administration AND members of Congress and been found to be nothing to be concerned about.

4. The issue is being fed by Democrats, with the help of uniformed republicans (including Michelle Malkin on this issue) as a means to show Democrats to be tough on Security. Every single republican who has been quoted against this deal knows absolutely nothing about it.

I love Michelle Malkin, but she is wrong on this one. Many Conservatives are forming an opinion based on her essay without taking the time to investigate the facts themselves. In doing so, they look like idiots.

Is that enough?
18 posted on 02/19/2006 1:14:48 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: MNJohnnie

You made a complete fool of yourself on the last thread. What are you doing, going for two?


19 posted on 02/19/2006 1:14:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If it's a "Religion of Peace", some folks aren't very religious.)
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To: ncountylee

I agree. However, the border issue is huge and would give Bush the gas he needs to finish strong. I don't know why he soft peddals it so much.


20 posted on 02/19/2006 1:14:56 PM PST by neodad
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