Skip to comments.Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started (See translation and interesting finds)
Posted on 03/17/2006 10:37:56 AM PST by jveritas
In regards to the Iraqi intelligence documents that discussed Al Zarqawi presence in Iraq, as posted on the Foreign Miliarty Services Office (FMSO) website (document ISGZ-2004-019920 ) it appears that the some in the Iraqi intelligence apparatus provided the accurate information about Zarqawi presence in Iraq with attached pictures of him, but when the information reached the Director or a Director of the Iraqi intelligence he dismissed it as not accurate. This is interesting since it seems there was an intended cover up by this top Iraqi Intelligence officer about the presence of Zarqawi in Iraq despite the much stronger evidence that he was already in Iraq.
I am posting below the translation of the FMSO document ISGZ-2004-019920 and I will make it in a chronological order and please note that I put illegible word(s) when the word(s) in the pdf document is(are) very blur and cannot be read with accuracy and that it is hand writing documents and not printed so it make difficult to read some of the words:
Page 7 of the pdf document: This is a letter from an Iraqi intelligence officer dated August/7/2002 (7/8/2002 per Iraqi date numbering system) talking about the presence of individuals from Al Qaeda inside Iraq and that they possess multiple passports. The has attached pictures of Ahmad Fadil Nazal AlKhalayla that we know him by his nick name of Zarqawi (Abu Musaab Al Zarqawi) and some other individual.
Page 7 translation:
Secretary 384 7/8/2002
In the name of God the Merciful
From I.M 53/1/5
Document No 513387 per our letter 3077 in 23/6/2002 and in reference to proclamation illegible number numbered 9096 in 8/1/2002. Information are available from a trusted source about the individual existence of illegible word our letter above inside the country and they are accused of dealing with the Al Qaeda organization that is lead by the Saudi Osama Bin Laden and they possess more than one passport. illegible word to the respectful Mr. Director of the apparatus illegible word 515 to direct your sources to track the existence of the people mentioned above within your work domain and inform us in case you prove this 515. illegible words your view to inspect the pictures of those mentioned with the pictures of the Jordanian community with your work domain 535 illegible word tourist hotels, residential apartments, rented homes. Relate the subject illegible words with our boss.
End of page 7 translation
Page 4, 5, and 6 of the pdf document were the attachments that the Iraqi intelligence officer attached to his letter and it contain pictures of two individuals and one of them ispage Ahmad Fadil Nazal AlKhalayla or better know to us a Zarqawi (pages 4 and 5).
Page 8 is very illegible, page 9 is almost blank with a foot note saying Regarding the possibility of Al Qaeda individuals entering the country, and page 10 is a blank cover letter with no writing on it ( On the right hand corner it is written The Iraqi Republic Presidency of the Republic, Intelligence Service).
Page 2: This a letter from intelligence officer R.K dated on 17/8/2002 asking the Director to review the information in the letter from I.M 53/1/5 (Letter posted, translation of page 7) because they (R.K group) claim that do not have any indication of the existence of such individuals of Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Page 2 translation:
Please review regarding the letter of M 53/1/5 3387 in 7/8/2002. Upon further inspection of the information in it, we have no indication about this and therefore we suggest answering M 53. With regards
Signature R.K 17/8/2002
End of page 2 translation .
The it in the above refer to letter of M 53 and the this refer to the information about Al Qaeda members entering Iraq.
Page 3 is a reply to the letter of R.K from the Director Ismail Mohamad (Initial M.I or I.M) and basically it says that after they inspected the content of the letter from M 53 they found no indication of the existence of these individuals within the public.
Translation of the letter in page 3
To the respectful Mr. R.K
We would like to show you the following:
1. We received the letter of M 53/1/5 numbered 3387 on 7/8/2002 in regards of the existence of members from Al Qaeda organization in the country.
2. From the inspection of the information through our sources and friends within our domain and also bureau (3) we have no indication of the existence of the mentioned individuals within the Public.
Please review.. and we suggest to put the letter aside.. with regards
Secretary for Ismail Mouhamad
End of page 3 translation.
Now in page 1 you will find the answer from I.M 53/4 (The Director) to the I.M 53/1/5 who is wrote the original letter about AL Qaeda member in Iraq. Again the letter from the Director says that there is no indication of Al Qaeda members in Iraq.
Translation of page 1
Secret and Immediate Letter
To I.M 53/1/5
From I.M 53/4
Document number 15701 and your letter numbered 3501 in 15/8/2002, we have directed our sources and there was no indication for us about this. We will provide you with the latest in case we receive it. Finished
Secretary 17/8 Youssef 17/8
End of page 1 translation
It seems to me that the lower branch of the Iraqi intelligence provided accurate information about the presence of Zarqawi and AL Qaeda members in Iraq but for some reason it was quickly dismissed by another higher branch in the intelligence service as if they want to cover this up and not follow through on it.
Ping since you want to keep an FR file on Prewar Iraq documents.
I just read it. Looks like a bunch of chicken scratch to me.
But what do I know?
But ... but ... ABC tells us these documents have not been authenticated. Until such time, if ever, these documents and their content can't possibly taken seriously.
SO....DON'T BE CONFUSING THEM WITH THE FACTS!!!!
Has the Hollywood version of the CIA seen this and verified it?
Too bad the RINO's won't allow the "white flag" ad to be run again on TV
Pass this "white flag" ad from Dec 2005 around on the internet, it's from gop.com
At least gop.com has not been taken over by the RINO's!
Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started (See translation and intresting finds)
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But Saddam never had sexual relations with that guy. Sound familiar?
Thanks for the Ping.
This is something I have known since I got injured in Iraq, glad its semi official now.
You are providing an invaluable services, jv.
As I said yesterday, this info is just incredible.
Keep it comin', please.
Thanks :) I hope that the Pentagon will release more documents so I can work on translating what is important to translate and post.
Thanks for the ping!
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I hope John Stossel of ABC is on this...he's the only guy in broadcast who might report this information in detail.
Once again, good work!
"It seems to me that the lower branch of the Iraqi intelligence provided accurate information about the presence of Zarqawi and AL Qaeda members in Iraq but for some reason it was quickly dismissed by another higher branch in the intelligence service as if they want to cover this up and not follow through on it."
The Iraqi government had no control of the territory in question, and governments are traditionally loath to admit that to be the case, so that's the most likely reason for any reticence to acknowledge the fact.
I'm not sure this is news though, I thought it was widely known that Zarqawi was in Kurdistan with Ansar Al Islam from 2002.
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Is your bump on CA's I-58 that makes you go "Weeeeeee"?
More excellent circumstantial evidence, that, if anything, we'll never really fully know just how bad Saddam really was, and just how many of his secret black projects had a direct bearing on not only 9/11 but also attacks prior to that. The inklings we are getting tell me that he was doing more against us than is apparent on the surface. We waited too long to go after him, IMHO. I would have started the war a year earlier at the latest, but ideally, I would have started it after WTC-1.
I know what post you responded to.
My question marks were representative of 'what are you talking about?'
I can do dv/dt and derive acceleration also.
Now we are going into a place I don't have time to explain tonight.
I don't free fall. I do have sea legs.
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