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Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started (See translation and interesting finds)
Pentagon/FMSO Pre-war Iraq documents ^ | March/17/06 | jveritas

Posted on 03/17/2006 10:37:56 AM PST by jveritas

In regards to the Iraqi intelligence documents that discussed Al Zarqawi presence in Iraq, as posted on the Foreign Miliarty Services Office (FMSO) website (document ISGZ-2004-019920 ) it appears that the some in the Iraqi intelligence apparatus provided the accurate information about Zarqawi presence in Iraq with attached pictures of him, but when the information reached the Director or a Director of the Iraqi intelligence he dismissed it as not accurate. This is interesting since it seems there was an intended cover up by this top Iraqi Intelligence officer about the presence of Zarqawi in Iraq despite the much stronger evidence that he was already in Iraq.

I am posting below the translation of the FMSO document ISGZ-2004-019920 and I will make it in a chronological order and please note that I put illegible word(s) when the word(s) in the pdf document is(are) very blur and cannot be read with accuracy and that it is hand writing documents and not printed so it make difficult to read some of the words:

Page 7 of the pdf document: This is a letter from an Iraqi intelligence officer dated August/7/2002 (7/8/2002 per Iraqi date numbering system) talking about the presence of individuals from Al Qaeda inside Iraq and that they possess multiple passports. The has attached pictures of Ahmad Fadil Nazal AlKhalayla that we know him by his nick name of Zarqawi (Abu Musaab Al Zarqawi) and some other individual.

Page 7 translation:

Secretary 384 7/8/2002

In the name of God the Merciful

From I.M 53/1/5

Document No 513387 per our letter 3077 in 23/6/2002 and in reference to proclamation illegible number numbered 9096 in 8/1/2002. Information are available from a trusted source about the individual existence of illegible word our letter above inside the country and they are accused of dealing with the Al Qaeda organization that is lead by the Saudi Osama Bin Laden and they possess more than one passport. illegible word to the respectful Mr. Director of the apparatus illegible word 515 to direct your sources to track the existence of the people mentioned above within your work domain and inform us in case you prove this 515. illegible words your view to inspect the pictures of those mentioned with the pictures of the Jordanian community with your work domain 535 illegible word tourist hotels, residential apartments, rented homes. Relate the subject illegible words with our boss.

Signature....

End of page 7 translation

Page 4, 5, and 6 of the pdf document were the attachments that the Iraqi intelligence officer attached to his letter and it contain pictures of two individuals and one of them ispage Ahmad Fadil Nazal AlKhalayla or better know to us a Zarqawi (pages 4 and 5).

Page 8 is very illegible, page 9 is almost blank with a foot note saying “Regarding the possibility of Al Qaeda individuals entering the country”, and page 10 is a blank cover letter with no writing on it ( On the right hand corner it is written “ The Iraqi Republic Presidency of the Republic, Intelligence Service).

Page 2: This a letter from intelligence officer R.K dated on 17/8/2002 asking the Director to review the information in the letter from I.M 53/1/5 (Letter posted, translation of page 7) because they (R.K group) claim that do not have any indication of the existence of such individuals of Al Qaeda in Iraq.

Page 2 translation:

Please review regarding the letter of M 53/1/5 3387 in 7/8/2002. Upon further inspection of the information in it, we have no indication about this and therefore we suggest answering M 53. With regards

Signature R.K 17/8/2002

End of page 2 translation .

The “it” in the above refer to letter of M 53 and the “this” refer to the information about Al Qaeda members entering Iraq.

Page 3 is a reply to the letter of R.K from the Director Ismail Mohamad (Initial M.I or I.M) and basically it says that after they inspected the content of the letter from M 53 they found no indication of the existence of these individuals within the public.

Translation of the letter in page 3

To the respectful Mr. R.K

M.I Reply

We would like to show you the following:

1. We received the letter of M 53/1/5 numbered 3387 on 7/8/2002 in regards of the existence of members from Al Qaeda organization in the country.

2. From the inspection of the information through our sources and friends within our domain and also bureau (3) we have no indication of the existence of the mentioned individuals within the Public.

Please review.. and we suggest to put the letter aside.. with regards

Signature….

Secretary for Ismail Mouhamad

17/8/2002.

End of page 3 translation.

Now in page 1 you will find the answer from I.M 53/4 (The Director) to the I.M 53/1/5 who is wrote the original letter about AL Qaeda member in Iraq. Again the letter from the Director says that there is no indication of Al Qaeda members in Iraq.

Translation of page 1

Secret and Immediate Letter

To I.M 53/1/5

From I.M 53/4

Document number 15701 and your letter numbered 3501 in 15/8/2002, we have directed our sources and there was no indication for us about this. We will provide you with the latest in case we receive it. Finished

Secretary 17/8 Youssef 17/8

Signature

M 53/4

17/8/2002

End of page 1 translation

It seems to me that the lower branch of the Iraqi intelligence provided accurate information about the presence of Zarqawi and AL Qaeda members in Iraq but for some reason it was quickly dismissed by another higher branch in the intelligence service as if they want to cover this up and not follow through on it.


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1 posted on 03/17/2006 10:37:58 AM PST by jveritas
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To: eyespysomething

Ping since you want to keep an FR file on Prewar Iraq documents.


2 posted on 03/17/2006 10:39:47 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

I just read it. Looks like a bunch of chicken scratch to me.

But what do I know?


3 posted on 03/17/2006 10:39:55 AM PST by Fighting Irish
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To: jveritas

But ... but ... ABC tells us these documents have not been authenticated. Until such time, if ever, these documents and their content can't possibly taken seriously.


4 posted on 03/17/2006 10:43:38 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: backhoe

Ping!


5 posted on 03/17/2006 10:44:25 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MizSterious

Thanks!


6 posted on 03/17/2006 10:45:08 AM PST by backhoe
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To: jveritas
Hey, this stuff is REALLY nice BUT the hardened minds of the Bush haters have been made up already.

SO....DON'T BE CONFUSING THEM WITH THE FACTS!!!!

7 posted on 03/17/2006 10:47:26 AM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: jveritas

Has the Hollywood version of the CIA seen this and verified it?


8 posted on 03/17/2006 10:57:04 AM PST by Dallas59 (MOHAMMED LIED-PEOPLE DIED)
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To: jveritas; AmericanInfidel0; Laurita; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Too bad the RINO's won't allow the "white flag" ad to be run again on TV

Pass this "white flag" ad from Dec 2005 around on the internet, it's from gop.com

http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv

At least gop.com has not been taken over by the RINO's!


9 posted on 03/17/2006 12:04:30 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (I've supported the troops, each and every week, (#233) since Oct 2001, by actually doing their job)
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To: jveritas; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; Peach; ...
Thanks jveritas!

Document: Zarqawi in Iraq Long Before the War Started (See translation and intresting finds)

Release of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

10 posted on 03/17/2006 12:38:04 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: jveritas

11 posted on 03/17/2006 1:10:07 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


12 posted on 03/17/2006 1:12:23 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: jveritas

But Saddam never had sexual relations with that guy. Sound familiar?


13 posted on 03/17/2006 1:33:40 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the Ping.

This is something I have known since I got injured in Iraq, glad its semi official now.


14 posted on 03/17/2006 1:53:38 PM PST by aft_lizard (....)
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To: jveritas

You are providing an invaluable services, jv.
As I said yesterday, this info is just incredible.
Keep it comin', please.


15 posted on 03/17/2006 2:09:41 PM PST by grandpa jones
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To: grandpa jones

Thanks :) I hope that the Pentagon will release more documents so I can work on translating what is important to translate and post.


16 posted on 03/17/2006 2:13:46 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 03/17/2006 9:54:01 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping :)

Intersting stuff..

~Moshi-chan


18 posted on 03/18/2006 12:28:39 AM PST by Moshikashitara (GOD BLESS THE USA! ~Proud to be an American 24/7/365!~ Support our Troops!)
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To: jveritas

I hope John Stossel of ABC is on this...he's the only guy in broadcast who might report this information in detail.

Once again, good work!


19 posted on 03/18/2006 2:28:34 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Liberals/Media Hate Us Just as Much as They Hate Bush.)
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To: jveritas

"It seems to me that the lower branch of the Iraqi intelligence provided accurate information about the presence of Zarqawi and AL Qaeda members in Iraq but for some reason it was quickly dismissed by another higher branch in the intelligence service as if they want to cover this up and not follow through on it."

The Iraqi government had no control of the territory in question, and governments are traditionally loath to admit that to be the case, so that's the most likely reason for any reticence to acknowledge the fact.

I'm not sure this is news though, I thought it was widely known that Zarqawi was in Kurdistan with Ansar Al Islam from 2002.


20 posted on 03/18/2006 7:03:19 AM PST by Canard
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To: jveritas

bttt


21 posted on 03/18/2006 7:08:04 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jveritas
You're doing a great job. How is it that the US government couldn't find and translate these documents?
22 posted on 03/18/2006 8:13:58 AM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; eyespysomething

Thanks for the pings! Saved


23 posted on 03/18/2006 10:18:21 AM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: jveritas

BTTT


24 posted on 03/18/2006 10:23:15 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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marking


25 posted on 03/18/2006 5:05:49 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: eyespysomething

Could you please add me to your pre-war docs ping list.


26 posted on 03/21/2006 5:53:24 PM PST by darthxenu
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To: Calpernia

Is your bump on CA's I-58 that makes you go "Weeeeeee"?


27 posted on 03/21/2006 5:59:39 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

???


28 posted on 03/21/2006 6:00:42 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: jveritas; Alamo-Girl; Carl/NewsMax

More excellent circumstantial evidence, that, if anything, we'll never really fully know just how bad Saddam really was, and just how many of his secret black projects had a direct bearing on not only 9/11 but also attacks prior to that. The inklings we are getting tell me that he was doing more against us than is apparent on the surface. We waited too long to go after him, IMHO. I would have started the war a year earlier at the latest, but ideally, I would have started it after WTC-1.


29 posted on 03/22/2006 3:17:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Calpernia
The pic you posted here looks and feels familiar:


30 posted on 03/22/2006 6:05:53 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

I know what post you responded to.

My question marks were representative of 'what are you talking about?'


31 posted on 03/22/2006 6:12:41 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
The general feeling of weightlesness after driving over a slope. I know it isn't the topic of the post. I know this area. I was talking about 32ft/sec^2 velocity as in free fall and the feeling you get without gravity. I didn't think it was rare. Or my non-specific language to blame here?

I can do dv/dt and derive acceleration also.

Now we are going into a place I don't have time to explain tonight.

32 posted on 03/22/2006 8:32:17 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

I don't free fall. I do have sea legs.


33 posted on 03/22/2006 8:33:54 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 03/22/2006 9:45:29 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: jveritas

bump


35 posted on 09/15/2006 5:41:46 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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