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Unwed Fathers Fight for Babies Placed for Adoption by Mothers
The New York Times ^ | March 19, 2006 | Tamar Lewin

Posted on 03/19/2006 10:41:42 PM PST by Giant Conservative

Jeremiah Clayton Jones discovered that his former fiancée was pregnant just three weeks before the baby was due, when an adoption-agency lawyer called and asked if he would consent to have his baby adopted.

"I said absolutely not," said Mr. Jones, a 23-year-old Arizona man who met his ex-fiancée at Pensacola Christian College in Florida. "It was an awkward moment, hearing for the first time that I would be a father, and then right away being told, 'We want to take your kid away.' But I knew that if I was having a baby, I wanted that baby."

Mr. Jones has never seen his son, now 18 months old. Instead, he lost his parental rights because of his failure to file with a state registry for unwed fathers — something he learned of only after it was too late.

Under Florida law, and that of other states, an unmarried father has no right to withhold consent for adoption unless he has registered with the state putative father registry before an adoption petition is filed. Mr. Jones missed the deadline.

Although one in every three American babies has unwed parents, birth fathers' rights remain an unsettled area, a delicate balancing act between the importance of biological ties and the undisrupted placement of babies whose mothers relinquish them for adoption.

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To: Jeff Chandler
The real father is the person who is both the biological father and the one who raises the child. The whole human race, and its future prosperity, is based upon this!
61 posted on 03/19/2006 11:23:54 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: jess35
You would advocate stigmatizing a child to punish his/her parents?

An adopted child is not a bastard, he is the real child of real parents. That's why adoption is the loving choice for out of wedlock births. And as for stigmatizing a bastard, I'm not the one who produced it. The responsible parties are the ones who are...responsible.

62 posted on 03/19/2006 11:23:54 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: ibheath

Well stated.


63 posted on 03/19/2006 11:24:40 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Giant Conservative
Biological fatherhood makes a person a biological father and gives him the presumptive right to raise his own child

How many biological children with how many women does he have the right to lay claim to?

No, DNA is a small part of the picture, and the odds are small that some guy whose sperm did the job will be a better parent than the adoptive husband and wife.

64 posted on 03/19/2006 11:27:53 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: ibheath
I have read all of your replies, and not once have you given a reason for your statements. So let's extrapolate your position out all the way. I am married with three young children... my wife dies in a car accident... since I am now a single parent... I should give my kids up for adoption to a couple, right???????????

Totally different circumstance. So much so it sounds silly to read.

A widow or divorced parent is NOT a single parent, but rather a widow with children or a divorced parent.

The blurring of terms to include widows and divorced parents in with single parents is completely unfair to widows and divorced parents.

65 posted on 03/19/2006 11:27:58 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Giant Conservative
The whole human race, and its future prosperity, is based upon this!

The entire human race, and its future prosperity is based upon the FAMILY (mom+dad+kids).

66 posted on 03/19/2006 11:29:49 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Jeff Chandler
A child needs a mommy AND a daddy.

If a man's wife died in childbirth, would you recommend that he give the baby away so it could have a mother and a father?

67 posted on 03/19/2006 11:30:31 PM PST by timm22
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To: JohnnyZ
You don't know anything about the biological father or about the guy who would sign on to adopting the kid... so why do you presume that the latter would be better?
68 posted on 03/19/2006 11:32:00 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: JohnnyZ
How many biological children with how many women does he have the right to lay claim to?

A little bit of Monica in my life
A little bit of Erica by my side
A little bit of Rita's all I need
A little bit of Tina's what I see
A little bit of Sandra in the sun
A little bit of Mary all night long
A little bit of Jessica here I am
A little bit of you makes me your man

69 posted on 03/19/2006 11:32:05 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: timm22
If a man's wife died in childbirth, would you recommend that he give the baby away so it could have a mother and a father?

Also well-stated.

70 posted on 03/19/2006 11:32:55 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: timm22

See post #65.

(Don't they teach logic in school any more?)


71 posted on 03/19/2006 11:33:00 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Jeff Chandler
The father cares about his baby, and wants to raise his baby. He is thinking about himself. A real man puts the good of his child above his own feelings.

And you think that letting this kid be adopted is better than the father raising it? Just how do you come to that conclusion? Should people who get divorced put their children up for adoption? More importantly and to the point, should fathers who are divorced be stripped of their parental rights also? You somehow equate a father raising a child as some kind of hell for the child. I don't see how you come to that conclusion without knowing who the father of each particular baby is.

72 posted on 03/19/2006 11:33:41 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind and, BTW, Stå sammen med danskerne !)
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To: calex59

See #65.

(Don't they teach logic in school any more?)


73 posted on 03/19/2006 11:34:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Family begins with biological parenthood, followed by biological parents raising their own kids. No father becomes less of a father simply because his child's mother walks away from their kid...


74 posted on 03/19/2006 11:34:28 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: JohnnyZ

He didn't know she was pregnant, how do you equate that with deserting the mother?


75 posted on 03/19/2006 11:35:36 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind and, BTW, Stå sammen med danskerne !)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Are you adopted ot an adoptive parent who feels threatened by a story such as this?

I was one of those babies, although my mother did not give me up for adoption. The man she married when I wwas 2 adopted me and as far as I was concerned, he was my father.

"For the good of the child" meant my biological father had no contact with me. What no one ever realized was that there was room in my heart for both. Even at 53 I cannot tell you how huge a scar that is for me. I don't dwell on it, it is just there. I know the decision was made in what everyone thoought was my best interest, yet it still hurts to this day.

My point is these babies grow up, learn the truth and then have to deal with whatever the reality of their situation is. I know what it is like to know a father wanted you, wanted to be a part of your life, but "the good of the child" did not allow it.

So until you have been there, done that as that child, I respectfully suggest you may not know what you are talking about.


76 posted on 03/19/2006 11:35:38 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: Giant Conservative
Comparison:

The biological mother sticks with her child through 9 months of not-so-fun pregnancy and Lord knows how many hours of labor

The biological father puts his sperm out there and doesn't care to stick around long enough to find out if his boys swam to the target.

77 posted on 03/19/2006 11:36:17 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: JohnnyZ
She should have told him.

And as soon as he found out, he absolutely stepped up to the plate: no deserting rogue here whatsoever!

78 posted on 03/19/2006 11:38:30 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Jeff Chandler
Adoption is not "tossing the kid off", it is a loving, selfless act.

It can be. It can also be a neverending cascade of foster homes until the kid reaches 18. You roll the dice, take your chances, and hope the adoption agency hooks the child up with a couple that wants to care for a child, rather than have another possession. But then, only single parents are capable of that mindset, right?
79 posted on 03/19/2006 11:40:11 PM PST by Renderofveils (Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”)
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To: Jeff Chandler
See post #65. (Don't they teach logic in school any more?)

Please illustrate the flaw in my logic:

You advocate that an unmarried biological father should not try to keep a child offered for adoption, because the child is better off with a loving father AND mother.

A no-longer-married man (losing his wife to childbirth) has a child. There is no mother to help raise his child. Because, as you claim, it is better for a child to have a father and a mother;

AND because in this situation, there is no mother;

you should logically advocate the superior situation of giving the child up to an adoptive mother AND father.

It's really irrelevant if we call the biological father a "widower" or a "single parent." No matter what, the man who loves his child is without the wife and mother the child needs. The difference in label doesn't change the situation, or the (claimed) best outcome for the child.

80 posted on 03/19/2006 11:41:02 PM PST by timm22
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