Posted on 03/25/2006 1:05:50 PM PST by jveritas
In page 3 this Saddam Regime document ISGZ-2004-019744.pdf dated February/3/2003 there is a request to supply Chemical gear for the Chemical group. This document is a letter from an Iraqi Export and Import Company Vendor addressed to the Iraqi Army Commission Of Equipment stating his pleasure to provide the Chemical Gear for the Chemical Group and he goes into Chemical gear equipment he can provides. This Chemical Group is part of the Feedaeyeen Saddam as other parts of the document indicate.
Beginning of the translation page 3 of the ISGZ-2004-019744.pdf :
In the Name of God the Most Merciful The Most Compassionate
To the Secretary/ The Commission of Equipment
Subject: Equipping The Chemical Group
Best Salute
I am pleased to present an offer (The Assembly against the Chemical Strike) and it contains the following parts:
1. Uniform.
2. Gloves.
3. Mask.
4. Shoes
5. Hat
Knowing that this assembly is from Belgian origin. Please inform with the extent of your need of this assembly and the quantity (Since the price is connected to the quantity) and as soon as possible to allow us to agree to import it to the country and as soon as possible.
This and accept our best appreciations considering ourselves faithful soldiers to serve this country under the Leadership of the redeemer Saddam Hussein (God protect and shepherd him) and from victory to victory and from God the success.
Signature
Wadah Abdel Wahed Al Rawi
Al Mansour/ Al Andalos Street 611/ drive 10/ Al Baali Building PhoneL 5436500
3/2/2003
End the translation of page 3.
Yes--their claim of being "over-extended" tends to lose credence as they cover every little sneeze out of Aruba.
Where the "F" is the MSM on this?!?!?
Having a Fox News Alert about the Dam Killing of the Minister...who gives a rats ass anyway!
Iran has large numbers of chemical weapons, used chemical weapons against Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died in that war, and the Persians and Arabs have fought continuously for about 3,000 years.
People are really twisting themselves into pretzels trying to turn the presence of a chemical decontamination unit, a type of unit common in militaries throughout the world that don't have any chemical weapons and don't really have obvious enemies, into something more than it is.
Please establish for me how you came to the conclusion this is only a defensive decontamination unit. Then please show me when and where this entity was declared as demanded under multiple resolutions.
The only thing that would make this unit legit is IF it was declared. Do you know the answer to wether it was or not? If not then I suppose I could turn your own words back on you and say that you are twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to turn the presence of this entity into something valid.
You are giving Saddam the benfit of the doubt. It is fine for you to do so but I ask why it is he deserves that benefit from you.
The key here is wether or not this was declared. That is the question to ask that, when answered, will show what this really was.
Can you tell me where you heard that Fox News is not reporting on these documents because they were told by someone in government to ignore them? I want to follow up with whoever at Fox you heard that from. Thanks
LOL!!! missing girls and car chase.
Per the UN resolutions everything that was remotely related to Chemical was forbidden in Iraq, offensive or defensive it does not matter. This Chemical Platoon in 2001 was simply illegal.
JANUARY 16, 2003 : (IRAQ : UNMOVIC DISCOVERS EMPTY CHEMICAL MUNITIONS - IRAQ ACTS INNOCENT AND APPOINTS A "COMMISSION OF INQUIRY" ) Among other developments, the report [ the twelfth quarterly report of the Executive Chairman of the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) in accordance with paragraph 12 of Security Council resolution 1284 (1999), covering UNMOVIC's activities from 1 December 2002 to 28 February 2003.] notes that, on 16 January, UNMOVIC inspectors discovered a number of empty 122-mm chemical munitions. Following that discovery, Iraq appointed a commission of inquiry. - "Statements to the UN Security Council by two Inspectors and Members of the SC, 7 Mar 2003 ," UN Press Release SC/7682, 07/03/2003, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/859554/posts
JANUARY 16, 2003 : (IRAQ : UN INSPECTORS DISCOVER PREVIOUSLY UNDISCLOSED WARHEADS FOR CHEMICAL WEAPONS). Previously undisclosed warheads for chemical weapons are discovered by UN inspectors. -- via "Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History, " Various Sources , 02-20-03 , by PsyOp
HQ : "They are inspecting the ammunition you have, yes?"FIELD OFFICER : "Yes. For the possibility there are forbidden ammo."
HQ : "For the possibility there is, by chance, forbidden ammo?"
FIELD OFFICER : "Yes.
HQ : "And we sent you a message yesterday to clean out all the areas, the scrap areas, the abandoned areas. Make sure there is nothing there.
...
HQ : "After you have carried out what is contained in this message, destroy the message because I don't want anyone to see this message."FIELD OFFICER : "Okay."
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-- Source: "Remarks to the United Nations Security Council," by Secretary Colin L. Powell, New York City, February 5, 2003
And the Administration just continues to ignore this evidence, that their original assertion that Saddam has chemical weapons ready to use was correct. Condi Rice on Fox News Sunday said, in response to a Chris Wallace question(parphrasing) even though there were no WMD, other reasons justified us going after Saddam.
Not even a qualification by her, straight out "there were no WMD". Why do they continue to ignore the evidence in front of their faces? There were none found, but that was because in the ramp up to war Saddam, in cooperation with other nations, namely the Russians or Russian rogue operatives, and maybe France, moved those weapons, most assuredly to Syria.
Just doesn't make sense that why Bush et.al continue to deny the evidence.
I thank you for pinging me......I miss a lot and would miss even more if kind Freepers did not alert me.
I don't see how I'm making a stretch at all. Assuming the presence of chemical gear doesn't by itself prove that Saddam had WMD plans, look at what else we know as fact. We know Saddam has used chemical weapons previously. We know that, at some point, he had them stockpiled. We know further that, according to Hans Blix, Iraq had chem/bio material that was unaccounted for. Given that scenario, the presence of chemical gear doesn't look so innocent.
Even if this was just a ruse by Saddam to fool people into thinking he had chemical and biological weapons, he fooled the wrong people, namely, the U.S. and Great Britain.
"People are really twisting themselves into pretzels trying to turn the presence of a chemical decontamination unit, a type of unit common in militaries throughout the world that don't have any chemical weapons and don't really have obvious enemies, into something more than it is."
This document is dated Feb 2003. Several years after the end of the Iraq-Iran war, and just over a month before we went to throw Saddam and his regime out of power.
Also, the document reminds the reader that the price is related to the quantity purchased, yet these were only ordered for the portion of the Iraqi military that handles chemical weapons? If they were for defensive purposes, they would be thinking the opponents (US and coalition forces) would be using them and they would have purchased for all of their military, not just this one group.
I think you are making presumptions based on other nations, and the facts related to those other nations, and ignoring the facts in this case.
Excellent analysis.
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