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The Ed McMahon Solution for Illegal Aliens
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 7 April 2006 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 04/07/2006 10:01:04 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

Decades ago, the Publishers Clearing House launched a campaign to give away $1 million with Ed McMahon and Dick Clark as spokesmen. In addition to the prize and fat payments to the sponsors, PCH had millions in costs for its advertising and direct mail. That campaign offers a solution to the illegal alien problem in the US today.

Some people wondered when the “Ed McMahon” campaign began, how that made good economic sense. I was working in direct mail advertising then. I knew exactly why it made sense. PCH were (and still are) spending tens of millions of dollars in order to give away money. But what were they getting in return?

They were getting accurate names and addresses where people currently live. Why? Well, if you wanted Ed McMahon to come to your door with a check for $1 million, wouldn’t you give your accurate name and address? Isn’t that exactly what the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) wants from all illegal aliens?

Consider how the publishing industry gathered correct names and addresses prior to the McMahon campaign. They hired hundreds of college students, put them at desks with hundreds of phones, and stacks of directories. Hour by hour they made thousands of calls to find people. And, since Americans move all the time, those addresses quickly became obsolete.

Now, consider the INS today. An excellent article by Michelle Malkin yesterday detailed the towering incompetence of many of the administrators of the INS. Her article is the capstone of a series which demonstrates that far from being able to find 12 million (or whatever million) illegal aliens in the US, today’s INS could not find its *ss in the shower if it used both hands.

So, take a leaf out of the Ed McMahon playbook. Instead of trying to find all those illegal aliens, why not give them every incentive to identify themselves? And, no, I am not suggesting cash prizes like the McMahon campaign.

Congress should pass a law that gives all illegal aliens 90 days (or so) to register with the INS by name, address, place of employment, etc.. Photographs, fingerprints and DNA swabs would be included, so there’s no question that folks are who they say they are.

What would be the incentive for aliens to register? The law would state that any illegal alien found inside the US after the period expired, who had not registered, would immediately be positively identified by fingerprints, etc., taken to the nearest US border, and dumped on the far side. That person would also be barred from ever seeking to enter the US again. That result would be placed beyond the power of the federal courts to interfere. And, it would happen regardless of time in the US, family status, jobs or children.

With strong incentives like that, the only illegal aliens to stay in the shadows and not register would be those actively involved in criminal activities, ordinary ones of robbery, drugs, etc., or extraordinary ones like smuggling more illegal aliens into the US. By their actions, the group of all illegal aliens would self-select out those who have no intention of living and working in the US while obeying its laws.

Coupled with this, of course, would be practical steps to close the US border to the invasion from Mexico. Build the fences. Complete the wall at San Diego. Man the border with both volunteers and professionals. The Minute Men are proving again, right now, that more eyes on the border mean less illegals coming in.

It currently looks like the Senate bill, providing amnesty for illegals, will not pass. Even if it does, it looks like the House – which is closer to the people and supposedly better represents their will – will kill the Senate bill if it reaches the House.

It’s insane to accept the idea that any group of people can forcibly change the laws of the US just by walking or wading across an unguarded border. The Constitution gives control of immigration to Congress. For decades, Congress has abdicated its responsibilities in this area. Congress has fiddled, while the flames of the “reconquest” lick higher and higher on the walls of the state capitols in Sacramento, Phoenix, Santa Fe, Austin and Tallahassee. And those flames are spreading to capitols as far from the border as Raleigh, Albany, and Denver.

Serious action, not another false, band-aid solution, is needed immediately. A nation which cannot control its borders, cannot control its destiny. And the Ed McMahon solution would help regain that control

About the Author: John Armor is candidate for Congress in the 11th District of North Carolina.

John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


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KEYWORDS: amnesty; dickclark; edmcmahon; house; immigrationbills; ins; michellemalkin; minutemen; pch; registeraliens; sandiegowall; senate
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This subject is a hot topic on FR now. Don't you wish your Congressman could come up with self-enforcing laws like this?

John / Billybob

1 posted on 04/07/2006 10:01:09 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

You could already be a wiener..........


2 posted on 04/07/2006 10:02:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (I must not fear.Fear is the mind-killer.Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.....)
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To: Congressman Billybob

bump


3 posted on 04/07/2006 10:03:28 AM PDT by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: Congressman Billybob
The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:

"Strangely enough, despite the fact that he was buddies with Henry Kissinger at Harvard, he is registered as a member of the Democratic Party, and has written foreign policy speeches for Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter."


4 posted on 04/07/2006 10:08:24 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Mark for later...


5 posted on 04/07/2006 10:20:23 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Only 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Congressman Billybob
That result would be placed beyond the power of the federal courts to interfere.

The "...and a miracle happens here..." portion of the equation.

6 posted on 04/07/2006 10:20:34 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
FWIW, I rec'd the following proposal & annotated same in red

 

 

Illegal Aliens

 

  1. Babies Born on U.S. Soil – Eliminate automatic U.S. citizenship and benefit eligibility.
          Revert to (pre 1965) benefits/declaration - on 18th birthday. Prior to that, they must live where parents legally reside.  

 

  1. Free Medical Services – No longer provided.
          Illegal per USSC (emergency svcs). Emergency Rms cannot pick & choose which svcs to provide/treat cuz of
          scum bag lawyers file class action against hospitals.

 

  1. Employment – Provide corporate employers a worker alternative, prisoners (convicted criminals) to do the work other U.S. Citizens do not want to do (dig ditches, pick grapes, etc.).  These prisoners would include white-collar criminals.  (See Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County in Arizona for his chain gang approach.)  If employers reject the new source of workers and continue to hire illegal aliens, prosecute them.
          Create a Fed. registry for: 1. employers (seeking immigrant labor) &
                                                2. a (2) tiered registry for employees
                                                       a. those only seeking work (cannot switch to b. for 10 years)
                                                       b. those seeking work & eventual residency
                                                 registry = retinal scan, dna, fingerprint, pic. If b., add same for dependents
                                                 consider merits of RFID
                           

 

  1. Public School Education – All classes taught in English (except foreign language courses).  It has already been proven this is the best approach for the advancement of a child residing in the United States.  U.S. citizenship of each parent must be verified when a child is enrolled, using forms printed in English.  Non-taxpaying illegal alien children would not be allowed to attend public schools. 
          Simple - require a SS# for ea. student (as control/reporting/audit mechanism) 

 

  1. Language – English.  Immediately stop catering to the illegal alien lack of interest in learning the English language to better blend in to society. U.S. citizenship requires an understanding of English. Publications in non-English will not be govt. supported. (work w/ community/religious groups to promote ESL)
 
    6.   build medium security prison(s) in Mexico to house low risk prisoners convicted in US.   Enforce spot/surprise checks by 
         US reps. to ensure compliance --> Mexican prisoners in lower cost facilities.
 
    7.  Immediately, eliminate any targeted welfare/benefits/social services.
 
    8.  Immediately, establish a federal data base where employers can get (real time) phone &/or web yes/no verification of
        name/SS# for prospective employees
 
   

 

7 posted on 04/07/2006 10:59:08 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: Congressman Billybob
That's a great idea. With all due respect, I don't think the general public, and certainly not our Congress, are ready to back strong sanctions against the illegals themselves. In a perfect world ... but in our world we still have the MSM.

Who has a greater moral and ethical obligation to obey US law? Illegal alien foreign nationals or American citizens? We know exactly where every US employer is and it's time to stop feeling sorry for them. The laws to sanction them are on the books now. There are great sanctions, and reasonable protections as well, for employers in H.R. 4437. Force the Dems to drop the controversial "felony for being illegal" provision (that the Dems inserted) and put the onus on the employers. If the jobs dry up the illegal aliens will self-deport.

The Senate, House and White House are seriously confused about what is at issue and what is at stake here.

The issue of a guest worker program is completely separate from the issue of illegal aliens.

We have a guest worker program. It may need to be reformed but illegal aliens are those who have not applied to be guest workers. There are 11 million of them. (or more)The only thing needing reform concerning illegal aliens is to enforce the existing laws respecting their presence and their employment here. And border security.

Border security is the number one problem in this debate. The flood of illegal aliens is a major factor in relation to our lack of border security but it is only one factor. There is also a matter of national security in a time of war and in an age when terrorists have set their sights on inflicting mass destruction on our society.

After the issues of border security and millions of illegal foreign nationals on our soil the matter of guest workers is very small. Until the first two problems are thoroughly and firmly addressed the guest worker issue should not even be discussed.

The President the Senate and the House need to get that message with unambiguous resolve.

Border security! No employment for illegal aliens! Immigration and a guest worker program are separate issues from the above.

8 posted on 04/07/2006 11:05:09 AM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: randog
Actually, no. Congress has full power to withdraw the jurisdiction of the federal courts to deal with any subject, if they so choose. As I've written at length before, Congress has exercised this very power at least seven times before, the last time at the behest of Li'l Tommy Daschle (remember him? he was in all the papers) when he was trying to salvage his Senate seat against John Thune.

If Congress develops the chops to pass a real bill to control illegal immigration, it should also have the chops to take the federal courts out of the deportation loop.

John / Billybob
9 posted on 04/07/2006 11:08:21 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob
You can purchase accurate name and address data files from the United States Post Office.

Updated regularly, they are also verified on a daily basis by the route's post man.
10 posted on 04/07/2006 11:13:10 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
...the last time at the behest of Li'l Tommy Daschle (remember him? he was in all the papers) ...

I'm 6'2". I guess I never saw him coming. I was sure glad to see him go though. ;^)

11 posted on 04/07/2006 11:15:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I like it.


12 posted on 04/07/2006 11:21:41 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Beckwith
Somehow, I don't think the Post Office information includes whether the person is who he says he is, whether he's a citizen of another country, whether he's on the lam for any crimes, details like that which the gummint needs about the illegal aliens. LOL.

And, I bet a dollar to a donut that the Post Office doesn't have a clue about the 20 Hispanics who are living in two trailers, just a half-mile from my house. LOL.

John / Billybob
14 posted on 04/07/2006 11:30:15 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"The Ed McMahon Solution for Illegal Aliens"

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers Juany!


15 posted on 04/07/2006 11:37:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I think it would be funny and instructive if the companies who hire illegals were required to participate in a privitized social security plan for illegals, setting aside 10% of wages paid.

Within a decade, their retirement plans would look better than most Americans.


16 posted on 04/07/2006 11:47:39 AM PDT by bukkdems (If this global warming gets out of hand, we can use some of that nuclear winter.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"You are correct, sir."

RIP Phil Hartman

17 posted on 04/07/2006 11:49:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I don't recall Dick Clark acting as a spokesman for Publishers' Clearing House. He did co-star with Ed McMahon on TV's Bloopers and Practical Jokes, though, so maybe you confused the two roles.


18 posted on 04/07/2006 11:52:44 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: dfwgator

You, sir, are correct!


19 posted on 04/07/2006 11:58:22 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Congressman Billybob
I like it a lot. Those people who claim that we can't just deport 11 million people are only partially right. We can't deport them all at once. But we can deport some and reduce the problem by attrition over the course of 30 years. How? Easy...

1.) Strengthen border security to the point where the flow of illegals is a trickle. I don't care how much is spent to do it, just get it done.

2.) Implement the Armor plan whereby illegals must register and any who don't will be summarily deported if they are subsequently caught.

3.) Of the illegal group who registers, any who are subsequently convicted of any crime while in the US are deported.

4.) Children born to the illegal group will be American citizens, but those illegals who registered can NEVER become American citizens and can NEVER vote without leaving the US and getting at the end of the line.

5.) Those who attempt to vote and are caught will be deported, no questions asked.

6.) The number of legal immigrants allowed into the US on work visas is expanded significantly.

Assuming we keep up our border security over the next 30 years, the number of registered illegals will begin to go away by attrition.
20 posted on 04/07/2006 12:13:07 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals regardless of their party affiliation.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Congress should pass a law that gives all illegal aliens 90 days (or so) to register with the INS by name, address, place of employment, etc.. Photographs, fingerprints and DNA swabs would be included, so there’s no question that folks are who they say they are.

What would be the incentive for aliens to register? The law would state that any illegal alien found inside the US after the period expired, who had not registered, would immediately be positively identified by fingerprints, etc., taken to the nearest US border, and dumped on the far side. That person would also be barred from ever seeking to enter the US again. That result would be placed beyond the power of the federal courts to interfere. And, it would happen regardless of time in the US, family status, jobs or children.

You can pass whatever laws you want, but unless you enforce them, they are meaningless. We have laws on the books now that require illegal aliens to be deported. We are told the numbers are so huge, 11 to 20 million, that deportation is not an option. Do you really expect compliance with the program you suggest?

Why would illegals come out of the shadows to "register with the INS by name, address, place of employment, etc. Photographs, fingerprints and DNA swabs would be included, so there’s no question that folks are who they say they are?" Why disclose your whereabouts when you risk the possibility of deportation, payment of a fine and back taxes, a background investigation, and other requirements that would hinder your employment, i.e., make you less attractive to employers who must start paying SS, health beneftis, and report your employment?

I see more disincentives than incentives from the standpoint of the illegals and the employers. You have the stick, what is the carrot? Are you going to reward those who have violated our laws?

With strong incentives like that, the only illegal aliens to stay in the shadows and not register would be those actively involved in criminal activities, ordinary ones of robbery, drugs, etc., or extraordinary ones like smuggling more illegal aliens into the US. By their actions, the group of all illegal aliens would self-select out those who have no intention of living and working in the US while obeying its laws.

With "incentives" like that, most will remain in the shadows. They are not foolish enough to buy into the Ed McMahon solution by revealing themselves to the USG and overcome all the hurdles that are required to stay here legally. In the meantime, do we have the political will to really secure our borders?

I see all of this a political theater with the elites creating this Potemkin Village solution of unenforced laws coupled with strong, but meaningless, rhetoric. The first priority is securing our borders, which sends a real, concrete signal that we are serious about immigration reform. Passing laws to make legal those entering our country illegally sends the wrong signal to the millions more wait to cross the border. It says get here now before the door is shut.

21 posted on 04/07/2006 12:18:19 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Congressman Billybob
Why is it that the ultimate solutions are so simple.

Ten million dollars can be yours, just send us your name and address. LOL

22 posted on 04/07/2006 12:28:37 PM PDT by rocksblues (Illegal Immigrant racist here.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I saw Jerry Lewis on Neil Cavuto and he had some real good ideas about what we could do with the UN Building if it were not occupied.


23 posted on 04/07/2006 12:31:37 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Register Illegal Aliens, Not Guns!

Bumpersticker idea.
24 posted on 04/07/2006 12:36:12 PM PDT by jps098
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To: Beckwith

"You can purchase accurate name and address data files from the United States Post Office."

That includes HAS AN ADDRESS, not the thousands or millions living under a bush as they do all over San Diego county.

I doesn't seperate legal from illegal, how are you going to do that?


25 posted on 04/07/2006 12:40:44 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Congressman Billybob

taken to the nearest US border, and dumped on the far side. That person would also be barred from ever seeking to enter the US again. That result would be placed beyond the power of the federal courts to interfere. And, it would happen regardless of time in the US, family status, jobs or children.

And why would this be particularly punitive. This is what we do now.

Shooting them OTOH...


26 posted on 04/07/2006 12:48:53 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: kabar
So you're sitting there as an illegal alien, wife is the same, but you have three children who are born in America, you have a job, a car and a house. And you don't think those adults have an incentive to register, so they won't be thrown out summarily?

What planet are you from?

The chronic criminals in the illegal alien group would certainly be less than the total number. Is it easier to deport 1 million than 11 million? And isn't it obviously advantageous for the US to deport the multiple criminals, first?

If you don't like my ideas, come up with better on your own.

John / Billybob
27 posted on 04/07/2006 12:49:38 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Very nice. I always admire a REALLY bad pun.

John / Billybob
28 posted on 04/07/2006 12:51:09 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
IIRC, the earliest mailings from the PCH, about 40 years ago, had McMahon paired with Clark. Later on, they dropped Clark but kept McMahon. That original pairing led, I think, to the TV shows they co-hosted for a while.

John / Billybob
29 posted on 04/07/2006 12:53:05 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: rocksblues
Why is it that the ultimate solutions are so simple. Ten million dollars can be yours, just send us your name and address. LOL

Gee.. that sounds like fraud and entrapment.. (Grin). A much more practical idea might be a $100 reward from IRS for turning in an illegal alien. If there are 10 in one house next door.., It could provide a housewife with a nice vacation in Cantun.. (Grin)

30 posted on 04/07/2006 12:54:12 PM PDT by glowworm ( Liberal thot is truly a mental condition... Seek help!)
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To: glowworm
A much more practical idea might be a $100 reward from IRS for turning in an illegal alien.

Now that is something I could go for. Just driving to work I could make $15,000 or so. HAHA

31 posted on 04/07/2006 1:02:57 PM PDT by rocksblues (Illegal Immigrant racist here.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
So you're sitting there as an illegal alien, wife is the same, but you have three children who are born in America, you have a job, a car and a house. And you don't think those adults have an incentive to register, so they won't be thrown out summarily? What planet are you from? The chronic criminals in the illegal alien group would certainly be less than the total number. Is it easier to deport 1 million than 11 million? And isn't it obviously advantageous for the US to deport the multiple criminals, first? If you don't like my ideas, come up with better on your own. John / Billybob

There was one poster, somewhere, who said if the "Let No Illegal Behind" bill will send anyone presently here, less than 2 years back to their Country of origin, then why can't that be IMMEDIATE policy and start now and see how it goes? That would be the same policy the socialists want and who could object to that? Certainly that would reduce the number to a more workable total.

32 posted on 04/07/2006 1:04:12 PM PDT by glowworm ( Liberal thot is truly a mental condition... Seek help!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Actually, no. Congress has full power to withdraw the jurisdiction of the federal courts to deal with any subject, if they so choose.

Including habeas corpus?

33 posted on 04/07/2006 1:07:21 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Awesome ideas here!


34 posted on 04/07/2006 1:37:53 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: Congressman Billybob
So you're sitting there as an illegal alien, wife is the same, but you have three children who are born in America, you have a job, a car and a house. And you don't think those adults have an incentive to register, so they won't be thrown out summarily?

Who is going to throw them out? Why are they still here with three kids, a job, a car, and a house? If we didn't enforce the laws on the books now, why do you think we can enforce new ones? You seem to believe that we are going to create the enforcement mechanisms to force compliance. I just don't believe it and I have past history to base that belief on.

The Ozzie and Harriet family you portray is probably the exception, not the rule. Immigrants in the US now send back to Mexico more than $17 billion annually, which is greater than the revenue they gain from us in oil sales. Here in Northern Virginia, we have problems with immigrants occupying rental properties with 10 to 12 in a room exceeding fire and zoning codes.

What planet are you from?

I am from planet earth in the year 2006 and live in the USA, where we have 11 to 20 million illegal immigrants who are here in unprecedented numbers and growing exponentially. I do not live in an alternative universe where, by passing a law, everything is solved. Making everyone legal will not solve the illegal problem. More will come to replace them, even with bigger fences and more border patrol agents.

The chronic criminals in the illegal alien group would certainly be less than the total number. Is it easier to deport 1 million than 11 million? And isn't it obviously advantageous for the US to deport the multiple criminals, first?

First of all, Mexico does not want its criminals back. One-third of the California penal system is filled with illegal immigrants. Mexico refuses repatriation.

You are creating a phony strawman. I have not advocated deporting one or 11 million people. We really don't know how many there are. I don't think we have the political will to deport 10,000 let alone a million. Our legal system would be tied into knots and backlogged forever.

You have provided the stick, where is the carrot? You have failed to provide a reason why illegals should comply with your program except to avoid punishment. This approach hasn't worked before.

If you don't like my ideas, come up with better on your own.

OK. Here it is:

First, secure our Southern border using physical barriers at key locations, hi-tech survaillence and detection equipment, and more border patrol agents. We will not stop everyone from coming in, but it will reduce the numbers. This is the first step in regaining control over our national boundaries.

Second, I would enforce strictly the penalties against employers who hire illegal aliens. Without the prospect of employment, the US will not be as attractive to those wishing to enter illegally. Many illegals may decide to go back home.

I would enlist state and local officials to assist in the enforcement of federal immigration laws or at the very least cooperate with federal officials. No more sanctuaries. Any illegal alien convicted of a crime or misdameanor would be deported post haste.

I would eliminate the law that makes someone born in the US an automatic citizen. These "anchor babies: must be stopped. Ireland did it, so can we.

I would develop a tightly controlled guest worker program for unskilled labor needed in certain seasonal industries such as farming. The workers would be well-documented and unaccompanied by families. In terms of skilled labor, I would expand the H1B visa program.

I would reform the Immigration act of 1965 with a view towards limiting the sponsoring of family members for immigration and changing the way we select immigrants so that there is greater diversity in terms of where the immigrants come from.

After implementing all of the above, I would deal with the remaining illegals in the US as humanely as possible. I would not rule out some form of "amnesty" for long term residents, i.e., 10 years or more. There would have to be some carrots if we are going to get a handle on who is here. Also, people using our social services, medical facilities, education institutions, etc. would have to be identified as being a citizen or not. This would go along way towards building a data base. It would not mean that they would be cut off from the service, but they would have to provide information on who they are and where they came from. It would not be voluntary.

I would work out an agreement with Mexico on the repatriation of their citizens held in our jails.

That is a brief summary of how I would approach the problem.

35 posted on 04/07/2006 1:40:33 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Congressman Billybob

That's creative... just might work.


36 posted on 04/07/2006 2:04:53 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A nation that cannot or will not control its borders is not a nation at all)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

ed mcmahon had the most famous line of the ad campaign... say it fast...

' you can get 1 million dollars from dick and me...'

i laughed so much and never saw the ad aired again...

teeman...


37 posted on 04/07/2006 2:21:58 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Red Badger

bookmark 2 for later reading


38 posted on 04/07/2006 2:24:18 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Lurking Libertarian
The power of Congress to control the jurisdiction, and even the existence, of the lower federal courts is found in Article III, Section 1. Its power to control the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court (about 99% of the Court's current cases decided) is in Section 2. The power of Congress to curtail habeas corpus "during insurrections" is elsewhere in the Constitution.

John / Billybob
39 posted on 04/07/2006 2:47:46 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I'd prefer the Vince McMahon solution.


40 posted on 04/07/2006 2:55:42 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Chickensoup

How about we also implant a microchip in them like we do with our pets? Then we could have more info on them if/when they are caught.


41 posted on 04/07/2006 3:02:48 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: Congressman Billybob

A lottery isn't a bad idea. Probably as efficient/effective as the politically influenced system we have now.


42 posted on 04/07/2006 3:08:08 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Congressman Billybob

I love you Billy, you know that we don't disagree often but I have to take exception. I don't think new laws are the solution. We could deport these illegals under current law. The lack of will to deport is the problem. And, I understand why our politicians are reluctant to enforce these laws. Even if we removed the courts from the equation we would still have a major problem.

Can you just imagine the evening news if we started a large scale deportation program. Feature story following feature story of families being deported. Crying children. One tearful mother after another. Stories of illegals being rounded up. Illegals dying while they ran from the INS. Our political leaders wouldn't stand for this because our citizens wouldn't stand for this.


43 posted on 04/07/2006 3:21:23 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I like your idea of blackballing any alien caught after date certain who hasn't registered. While many illegals talk about eventually going home after earning a nest-egg, they rarely rule out the possibility of permanent residence in the US. (In fact, the more they have to lose, the less they fancy the idea of taking that fortune back to the cleptocracies they left behind.) The threat of being forever left out in the cold ought to encourage compliance with any new regulations.


44 posted on 04/07/2006 3:29:52 PM PDT by Redcloak (WARNING: This post may irritate John McCain.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"And, I bet a dollar to a donut that the Post Office doesn't have a clue about the 20 Hispanics who are living in two trailers, just a half-mile from my house. LOL.
"

If you know them to be illegal aliens, have you reported them to the ICE folks? That's what I'd do. It's important for all US citizens to report all known illegal aliens to ICE. Otherwise, they won't know they're there.

So, I'm assuming that you have done so, since that's an appropriate action for a law-abiding citizen.


45 posted on 04/07/2006 4:42:01 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: kabar

You are barking up a "fallen" tree! The day the citizens from nations south of our border can be prevented from coming "in" is long gone. The future belongs to the "American Dream". People from all over the world want to live by this "Dream". Within this context (trade, investment, etc.)will our nation survive.


46 posted on 04/08/2006 11:33:34 AM PDT by Blake#1
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To: Blake#1
You are barking up a "fallen" tree! The day the citizens from nations south of our border can be prevented from coming "in" is long gone. The future belongs to the "American Dream". People from all over the world want to live by this "Dream". Within this context (trade, investment, etc.)will our nation survive.

Pure nonsense. If we can't control our borders from entry by anyone who wants to come here, we are no longer a country. If what you say is true, why bother having any border controls at all?

We not only need to control our borders to keep illegal immigrants out, we need to protect ourselves against terrorists and others who wish to do us harm, i.e., national security.

There will be no "American Dream" if we fail to control our borders. We are the world's lifeboat. More want to get in then we can possibly support. Sinking the lifeboat helps no one. If the American Dream survives, then the world has a chance. What you are proposing, i.e., open borders, will destroy America.

47 posted on 04/08/2006 11:48:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" This was one of the laws that governed the USofA on March 19, 1789.(Constitution becomes law) First this type of law must be reestablished.


48 posted on 04/08/2006 12:12:51 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: Congressman Billybob

Take the Anchor Babies away from the illegals as soon as they're born and place them for adoption into homes of US Citizens.

Then deport the illegal parents after tying some tubes in each gender.

I imagine you'd only have to do this a few times before the illegals wouldn't think it was worth it to come to the USofA to work or have a baby.

Catching the illegal men should be easy -- look for current construction.

Even States, Counties and Cities are using illegal workers.


49 posted on 04/08/2006 12:54:07 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

It would not work.


50 posted on 04/08/2006 1:59:26 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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