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Russian bombers flew undetected across Arctic - AF commander
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060422/46792049.html ^

Posted on 04/22/2006 5:10:10 AM PDT by RusIvan

MOSCOW, April 22 (RIA Novosti) - Russian military planes flew undetected through the U.S. zone of the Arctic Ocean to Canada during recent military exercises, a senior Air Force commander said Saturday.

The commander of the country's long-range strategic bombers, Lieutenant General Igor Khvorov, said the U.S. Air Force is now investigating why its military was unable to detect the Russian bombers.

"They were unable to detect the planes either with radars or visually," he said.

Khorov said that during the military exercises in April, Tu-160 Blackjack bombers and Tu-95 Bears had successfully carried out four missile launches. Bombing exercises were held using Tu-22 Blinders.

By the end of the year, two more Tu-160s will be commissioned for the long-range strategic bomber fleet, Khorov said.

Both new planes will incorporate numerous upgrades from the initial Soviet models, the commander said. The bombers will be able to launch both cruise missiles and aviation bombs, and communicate via satellite.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: canada; cccp; coldwar2; communism; exercise; kgb; military; norad; northcom; putin; russia; russianmilitary; sovietunion; usaf; ussr
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To: RusIvan

YYYAAAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNN...........

These idiots lied like Children when they had a little bit of Power behind them...what should I expect now?


21 posted on 04/22/2006 6:18:13 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: edpc

Sounds like the Ruskies are lying about that wild trip to the Black Sea.

(With thick Russian accent.) "No, really, we flew across the ocean to Canada."

Questioning wife: 'How can I confirm this?'

"AHHH. You can't. We flew undetected."


22 posted on 04/22/2006 6:20:06 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: A. Pole

Stealth technology?==

Exactly my thought.


23 posted on 04/22/2006 6:22:16 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: beckaz

Or a ploy for more defense spending in the US.


24 posted on 04/22/2006 6:23:04 AM PDT by Barry Goldwater
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To: RusIvan
Consider the source. This is propaganda.
25 posted on 04/22/2006 6:24:22 AM PDT by manwiththehands (Lead, follow or shut up.)
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To: RusIvan

We probably just shrugged and assumed they were being delivered to the Air and Space Museum, or being traded at the desert graveyard for two old B-52's for some Mob Collector.


26 posted on 04/22/2006 6:25:47 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: VaBthang4; Psycho_Bunny; proudpapa
Looks like the Russian commander is an 80s music fan....

LIES Thompson Twins You told me you loved me, so I don't understand, Why promises are snapped in two, and words are made to bend. The bigger, the better, some stolen from Japan. Collected from around the world, they'll catch you if they can. CHORUS: Lies, lies, lies, yeah! Lies, lies, lies, yeah! Lies, lies, lies, yeah! Lies, lies, lies, yeah! Do I have to catch you out, to know what's on your mind? Well Cleopatra died for Egypt, what a waste of time. The white ones and red ones, and some you can't disguise. Twisted truth and half the news, can't hide it in your eyes. CHORUS You say you'll try harder, but I think it's just too late. Well, the car is revving in the drive, and I'm not the sort to wait. The bigger, the better, some nicked from old Saigon Collected from around the world, love lies on and on and on and on and on. CHORUS They're gonna get you They won't forget you They're gonna get you

27 posted on 04/22/2006 6:28:20 AM PDT by edpc
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To: RusIvan

Blinders? I though they were decomm'd. Too damn old.


28 posted on 04/22/2006 6:28:28 AM PDT by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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To: edpc

lol.


29 posted on 04/22/2006 6:31:03 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: jimtorr
I'd guess that the recently defunct Canadian government sabotaged the NORAD radar systems years ago. They didn't want to participate in any anti-missile systems.

Hard to believe the Canadians ever painted their insignia on a BOMARC, huh?


30 posted on 04/22/2006 6:34:08 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Rokke

We knew the names of the children.


31 posted on 04/22/2006 6:37:34 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Jaxter
In fact, the Tu-95 was one of the MOST unstealthy planes because the four sets of contra-rotating propellers gave the plane a MASSIVE radar signature. Even going to composite blades in the later Tu-142 versions didn't really reduce the radar cross section that much.
32 posted on 04/22/2006 6:46:49 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Rokke

Ding..Ding...Ding....We have a winner!!


33 posted on 04/22/2006 6:52:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: RayChuang88
In fact, the Tu-95 was one of the MOST unstealthy planes because the four sets of contra-rotating propellers gave the plane a MASSIVE radar signature. Even going to composite blades in the later Tu-142 versions didn't really reduce the radar cross section that much.

Even if they were somehow able to evade radar, how did they get past our satellites?

I don't buy any of this crap. Sounds like propaganda to me...

34 posted on 04/22/2006 6:54:09 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: RusIvan
Did they now? Are you sure? hehehehehehehehe Are you sure this wasn't a practice run for a Aerial Skeet-Shoot Rally?
35 posted on 04/22/2006 6:59:17 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: RusIvan

The U.S. zone of the Arctic Ocean? Sounds like Alaska. So, what is Ted Stevens going to do about it? Build another bridge?


36 posted on 04/22/2006 7:20:36 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: RusIvan
Image hosted by Photobucket.com keep telling yerself that igore... what ever gets you to sleep at night.
37 posted on 04/22/2006 7:29:11 AM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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To: RusIvan

All during the Cold War Russian Bear Bombers flew up and down the Atlanta costline of the U. S. They were detected but flew just the same. Russian bombers based in Cuba also covered the Panama Canal are and off the Pacific coast.


38 posted on 04/22/2006 7:40:38 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: edpc

"This entire article is based upon what the Russian Air Commander has stated, printed on a Russian based site. Dubious information, at best."

The term for this is "Maskirovka"

Possibility of truth "nichevo"

All governments have secrets. It is possible there is less rust on portions of the Russian military than is generally accepted.

Top sends


39 posted on 04/22/2006 8:12:27 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! ("On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" by Dave Grossman))
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To: Charles Martel
Hard to believe the Canadians ever painted their insignia on a BOMARC, huh?

Hard to believe that anybody painted their insignia on that piece of crap.

40 posted on 04/22/2006 8:13:39 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain)
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