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Next for air travelers: Standing room only? (Airbus Proposal)
International Herald Tribune ^

Posted on 04/24/2006 8:41:25 PM PDT by Babu

The airlines have come up with a new answer to the old question: How many passengers can be squeezed into economy class?

A lot more, it turns out, especially if an idea still in the early stage should come to pass: standing-room-only "seats."

But even short of that option, carriers have been slipping in another row or two of seats in coach by exploiting stronger, lighter materials developed by seat manufacturers that allow for slimmer seatbacks. The thinner seats theoretically could be used to give passengers more legroom but, in practice, the airlines have been keeping the same amount of space between seats to accommodate the additional seats.

The result is an additional six seats on a typical Boeing 737, and as many as 12 new seats on a Boeing 757.

Airbus has been quietly pitching the standing-room-only option to Asian carriers, though none has agreed to it yet. Passengers in the standing section would be propped against a padded backboard, held in place with a harness, according to seating experts who have seen a proposal.

That the airlines are even considering such things is the result of several factors. High fuel costs are making it difficult for carriers to turn a profit. The new seat technology not only allows airlines to add more places for passengers, it also reduces a seat's weight by up to 15 pounds, or 7 kilograms, limiting fuel consumption. A typical seat in economy class now weighs 74 to 82 pounds.

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If they really want to max out their space, just stack 'em floor to ceiling ...
1 posted on 04/24/2006 8:41:28 PM PDT by Babu
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To: Babu

Another great reason not to fly, as if we needed one.


2 posted on 04/24/2006 8:44:42 PM PDT by mysterio
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Hey.....we were offered a "standing room only" place on an Amtrak from Portland to Seattle once.....we said, NO THANK YOU, and got off the train and drove.


3 posted on 04/24/2006 8:45:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: Babu

Flying brooms is so much more comfortable [an INDIVIDUAL broom - just imagine! Better than the first class - no boardings, missed connections or lost luggage], quieter and cheaper...


4 posted on 04/24/2006 8:46:36 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Babu

What's next, duct tape them to the wings?


5 posted on 04/24/2006 8:48:21 PM PDT by Wycowboy
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To: Aeronaut; Paleo Conservative

Airbust Ping Alert ...


6 posted on 04/24/2006 8:55:20 PM PDT by Babu
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A hard landing would result in hundreds of broken legs. I cannot imagine this idea getting any traction.


7 posted on 04/24/2006 8:55:25 PM PDT by magellan ( by)
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To: Babu

They could, in hives, like the micro-hotels.


8 posted on 04/24/2006 8:57:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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we were offered a "standing room only" place on an Amtrak from Portland to Seattle once

Had that happen to us going from Philly to Boston. No seats until NYC.

9 posted on 04/24/2006 8:57:33 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking guts, you coward.)
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To: Babu

I'd rather them but racks of bunks straight up and down than stand.


10 posted on 04/24/2006 8:59:38 PM PDT by RHINO369
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I'm thinking of fixing up a large dog crate & flying cargo class. Load it up with pillows, snacks, drinks, laptop, & a mayonaise jar for delayed flights.

Sounds like first class to me!


11 posted on 04/24/2006 9:00:31 PM PDT by Mister Da (Nuke 'em til they glow!)
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Greyhound should think about cashing in on this. Set up cabins like Amtrack does and schedule straight thru routes to major hubs.


12 posted on 04/24/2006 9:01:14 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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What's next, duct tape them to the wings?

Shhhhh!! Airline employees lurk here. You might give them ideas!!
13 posted on 04/24/2006 9:03:13 PM PDT by Zetman (This secret to simple and inexpensive cold fusion intentionally left blank.)
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"If they really want to max out their space, just stack 'em floor to ceiling ..."

Why am I certain that they are considering just that? Something like those hotels in downtown Tokyo.
14 posted on 04/24/2006 9:06:20 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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Oh, hell, no. I'm sorry. Whoever came up with that idea needs to die.
15 posted on 04/24/2006 9:09:21 PM PDT by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but sometimes it causes collateral damage.)
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Heck with the duct tape. Just tell em to grab the wing and hold on.

If you lose your grip and fall off at 35,000 feet well I'm sorry that was a non refundable fare.


16 posted on 04/24/2006 9:09:50 PM PDT by A message
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A hard landing would result in hundreds of broken legs. I cannot imagine this idea getting any traction.

Not to mention a routine take off. Then there's turbulance. Is this article from the Onion? Good grief if they want to be that cheap about it use some lessons from military cargo planes. Place netted seats on the plane. I'd take that over breaking my neck standing up.

17 posted on 04/24/2006 9:13:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Babu

Every time I flew, I had to fully sit back in the seat and my knees still touched the back of the seat in front of me. And when the person reclined, I damn near had numb legs and knees by the time we landed. I'm 6'3 at 232.


18 posted on 04/24/2006 9:22:30 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Logical me

I feel you. The joys of having wide shoulders and long legs in economy are indescribable. I personally like to lean into the aisle so I can get nailed by the drinks cart as it comes by.

As for the standing option- heck, for short haul (under 90 minutes) I wouldn't mind being strapped in and standing.


19 posted on 04/24/2006 9:31:50 PM PDT by stormlead
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A typical seat in economy class now weighs 74 to 82 pounds.

But a typical passenger in economy class now weighs . . . oh, never mind.

20 posted on 04/24/2006 9:41:34 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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