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The game has not changed, we face the same enemy, same challenges. The Beast never dies!
May 10, 2006 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/11/2006 12:52:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 05/11/2006 1:43:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The game has not changed, we face the same enemy, same challenges. The Beast never dies!

President Reagan faced down the Soviets and ended the cold war, but the Beast is still with us. It simply changes form. Whether it appears in the form of Bolshevism, Nazism, fascism, communism, Islamofascism, etc, it is the same enemy: Totalitarianism. The all powerful state.

Today we are fighting Islamic terrorism. It's just another example of the Beast rearing its ugly head in its never-ending quest to destroy freedom. The Beast cannot co-exist with free people nor we with it.

We also see the Beast trying to make inroads into America through radical feminism, homosexualism, abortionism, radical environmentalism, creeping socialism, illegal immigration, etc.

The goal is to demoralize and erode away our will and ability to fight by destroying the traditional family unit, destroying our moral society, denying us our freedom of religion, freedom of speech, right to peaceable assembly, right to keep and bear arms, our right to life and right to self governance. The Beast must rule and must rule with an iron fist. Tyranny, totalitarianism is the game.

While we are at war with an obvious foreign enemy that attacks with fire and bombs, we have another not so obvious enemy here at home that aids and abets the known foreign enemy.

We must not allow this domestic enemy to destroy us from within. The enemy I'm speaking of erodes away our constitution, our traditions, our society. It infiltrates and controls our government departments and agencies at every level. Infiltrates our public institutions, schools, churches, news media, entertainment industry, corporate entities, especially our political parties.

I'm speaking of the old enemy of Marxism/communism, more well known here at home as socialism/liberalism. It uses government enforced tools of radical feminism, homosexualism, radical environmentalism, abortionism, racism, atheism, confiscatory taxation, social security, medicare, welfare, redistributionism, compulsory government education, compulsory unionism, overburdening regulation, and many other forms of government overstepping, expansion, intrusion and abuse.

And I'm directly speaking of the primary American home of socialism/liberalism and the party that champions all of the above isms and includes them in their party platform, and in addition to all of the above also directly aids and abets the foreign enemy: the Democrat Party.

Not to name names, but I'm speaking of Kennedy, Schumer, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Waxman, Kerry, Gore, Dean, McKinney, Boxer, Feinstein, Feingold, and the list goes on and on and on. And we'll throw in the McCains and Specters, et al, from our side of the aisle for good measure.

We readily recognize all of the above as enemies of our constitution and enemies of self-governance and freedom and we band together to fight them and their partners in crime, otherwise known as the mainstream media, especially when they willingly and knowingly provide aid and comfort to the foreign enemy.

We recognize them when they throw up the big issues of abortionism, feminism, homsosexualism, environmentalism, redistributionism, and get up close and personal with their in your face perversions.

We recognize them as the enemy when they take away our rights, take away our guns, take our tax dollars, take our families, our children, deprive us of our freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc.

We recognize them as the enemy when they use the ACLU and other radical anti-freedom legal organizations against us.

We recognize them as the enemy when they use their organized labor unions against us.

We recognize them when they use International ANSWER and other socialist/communist fronts against us.

We recognize the enemy when they use liberal activist judges against us to get around the constitution and or to overrule the will of the people as expressed at the ballot box.

Now what I want to know is, why do we fall to pieces and eat our own when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration? Hmmmmm?

It's the same liberal/socialist/Marxist/communist groups and people that we've been fighting all along. It's the same enemy using the same tools!

The game has not changed! It's the same old enemy!

The radical Marxist/socialists are behind the illegals.

The same radical feminist/homosexualist/abortionist/environmentalist antiwar pinko communist union thug that joins any other leftist protest is right back there helping the illegal immigrant gain entry into America.

And they're using the same divide and conquer techniques. They infiltrate our political parties and organizations. They plant disinformation bombs and sow the seeds of political discontent. They are masters in the use of propaganda and rabble rousing.

Recognize the enemy for what he is and do not allow them to use divisive issues to destroy our conservative movement. We are winning. We must not be sidetracked by an issue that will be solved in due time as we elect more conservative members to our government and continue replacing liberal activist judges with constitutionalists.

The goal is the same as it's always been. We must hold the line and advance our cause. Never willingly give ground to the liberal/socialists! Never retreat! Never surrender!

The Beast must be destroyed!


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To: Havoc
"mine are fine in this instance."

Your what are fine? And what in the world is playing "the martyr for purposes of debate"? If you are playing dead, you aren't debating much.

You try hard...I'll give you that much. But you are in over your head. Enjoy the New World Order.

481 posted on 05/12/2006 8:55:40 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump - well said.


482 posted on 05/12/2006 9:05:41 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: Czar
No exceptions.

You are the true blue, single issue voter. It is not a complement or an insult, just a fact.

483 posted on 05/12/2006 9:05:56 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: cva66snipe

your post 443 is spin and lies.

you are a single issue voter on immigration.


484 posted on 05/12/2006 9:07:19 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: Texasforever; Mo1

the illegal imm rallies had millions show up and almost zero violence or looting.

They know the anti immigrant people are waiting for an excuse.

Ditto for the minutemen. They are not stupid. They know the slightest bit of bad behavior will benefit the other side.

Your predictions of violence are way off base.


485 posted on 05/12/2006 9:10:06 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: Rokke

In over my head.. (snickering), yeah, that's it. You want to play the martyr and act like someone labeled you and all of us here are just dumb in spite of the transparency of your actions.. Good grief. Where do folks like you learn to debate? From teenagers who also think they're the first ones that ever tried to get by with something and believe their parents won't see through their bs excuses.. Pretty pathetic.

As for the 'New World Order' you'll see a civil war before you'll see this nation knuckle under to such tyranny.


486 posted on 05/12/2006 9:10:42 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: staytrue
We shall see. I have seen too many instances of guys like this and they always pop.
487 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:30 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Mini-14
As far as I'm concerned, a third party is needed.

Go for it. We repubs don't need malcontents here. We do the best we can, and if you are not satisfied, you need to go elsewhere.

488 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:52 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: Havoc

Havoc, if you were even remotely interested in debate, you would have responded to my post #153 which directly addressed the diatribe you posted to me in the first place. Instead, your next post to me was some blather about Soviet brainwashing. I have no idea what you imagine debate to be, but you are way off the mark in this thread.


490 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:42 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: staytrue
your post 443 is spin and lies. you are a single issue voter on immigration.

Well my post are easy enough to find as is my homepage. Too bad you didn't take even one minute to see if what you say is true before you said that.

491 posted on 05/12/2006 9:47:59 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Rokke

Hey, you're the one trying to convince people that a third party approach is nuts and not in touch with reality because you don't want to lose your own party. That is what I responded to. You addressed Czar dismissively attempting to impeach his sanity because he has a position you don't like.

Here is the reality. The GOP will not listen and will not do what is right for America. Not what's right "given the globalist mindset", what is right period. This is a soveriegn nation. End of statement. If the GOP will not listen to the electorate or it's base, they're done. If there is any part of that you do not understand, reread it.
Neither the Dems nor the Pubs will listen. And in that happenstance, it means it's time to build a party that will do what it is sent to washington to do instead of playing whore to the Rich and the globalists.

If I hire two people and neither will work despite countless
attempts to get them to do so, the proper approach is not to warn them once again that I might fire them. At some point, it's time to fire them and hire someone that will do the job they were hired to do. On this planet, that is logical. But because you have a vested interest, apparently, common sense is nuts to you. So, let's wake you up, it isn't nuts to a sizeable number of others - as evidenced in the fact that the president is choosing to speak Monday night. You know it, I know it, Everyone else here knows it and the President sure as heck knows it or he wouldn't use the Oval office as an emergency measure on a non-national defense issue.

We aren't a bunch of senior citizens that are going to roll over for democrat style scare tactics warning that we'll all be chosing between real food or our medicine and eating pet food. Apparently, you guys have devolved so far that you think tactics that didn't work against you will work for you. Pretty freakin lame.


492 posted on 05/12/2006 9:51:28 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc
"Hey, you're the one trying to convince people that a third party approach is nuts and not in touch with reality because you don't want to lose your own party."

No, I'm saying the third party approach is nuts because it doesn't work. It never has. There is a reason the last X number of Presidents only have a "D" or an "R" after their names, and it isn't because both parties have a long history of perfection. Third parties are interesting, but last time I checked that was about as much influence as they've had. Lyndon LaRouche is the perennial presidential candidate. Has he ever received more than 1 or 2 percent of the vote?

"Here is the reality. The GOP will not listen and will not do what is right for America."

That absolutely is NOT reality. It is your assumption of what might happen in the future. Bush is addressing the nation on Monday on immigration. Do you think he's doing that of his own volition? The GOP listens. But they listen to the whole country. Not just you. They probably ignore a lot of ranting rhetoric, but GOP Senators and Reps are re-elected continuously by their electorate. THAT is reality. And they aren't being reelected by an electorate that isn't satisfied with their performance.

"If the GOP will not listen to the electorate or it's base, they're done."

Agreed. But that obviously hasn't happened yet.

"it means it's time to build a party that will do what it is sent to Washington to do instead of playing whore to the Rich and the globalists. "

Good luck. Honestly.

"If I hire two people and neither will work..."

That is a false analogy, because in that case you literally control all the cards. You chose who to hire and who to fire. The reality is, the majority of this country selects its President, and they may not agree with you. Clinton still enjoys a personal approval rating of greater than 50%. And you can't change that. You may think your next door neighbor is the perfect presidential candidate, and you would hire him in a minute, but unless you can get a majority of this country to agree, you are out of luck. It doesn't matter what you think. You do not get to decide who gets hired and who gets fired. You can get as angry as you want, but you aren't going to change reality. Instead, you are better off influencing the direction of the country by supporting the candidate that best represents your values. Work to defeat the candidate that least measures up.

You never answered my question about how a democrat congress furthers conservative values. I'd be interested to hear your explanation.

493 posted on 05/12/2006 10:15:37 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
No, I'm saying the third party approach is nuts because it doesn't work

Actually it does work and the GOP is proof of that. History...

That absolutely is NOT reality.

It is the exact reality of the situation. Bush has been on every side of this publically while standing on one side of it privately and pushing his amnesty crap by any other name all along - even in the face of a majority of Americans who do not want it.. not minority, majority. And what do we still have - crap like a "senate compromise" bill where everyone can look; but, nobody can tell what the compromise was because it's a cheaper whore than the one they were arguing about to begin with.. while ignoring our wishes out here in flyover I might add.. still are.

And what's the take here - scare 'em. Scare them into thinking that if they abandon ship while the GOP goes right ahead and does whatever they hell they like, things will be worse because a dem will get in. How original. Same crap we heard for how many years on both sides.. let us get away with what we want or else the other guys might get in... Same crowd, different screwin; but, a screwin nonetheless. 'Let us get away with it or else.' Let an employee or co-worker tell me that.

Agreed. But that obviously hasn't happened yet.

No kidding. Thus the scare tactics for fear it might.

That is a false analogy

Actually, it's a pretty good one. Serves the purpose, that's why I like it. We the people chose the guy - hired him. And we the people keep getting the same crap no matter which of the two employees we hire. Get screwed one way by one guy, another by the other guy. Tired of being screwed, get a new guy.. simple.

You never answered my question about how a democrat congress furthers conservative values. I'd be interested to hear your explanation.

I didn't answer it because it isn't relevant. Were I suggesting putting a dim majority in place, it might be relevant. I'm suggesting replacing both parties altogether. Neither of them is worth being up there anymore. Neither of them. If you want to chase strawmen, you'll have to shadowbox yourself.

494 posted on 05/12/2006 10:37:37 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Jim Robinson

Right on target!


495 posted on 05/12/2006 10:49:46 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: staytrue

You have never insulted anyone, not me for sure, you have done none of the inanities I mentioned


496 posted on 05/12/2006 10:59:09 PM PDT by JustPiper (So say your fond farewells! Mecha means fuse, and it is lit !)
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To: Jim Robinson; JustPiper; ohioWfan; snugs; DrDeb; Lancey Howard; Enchante; rodguy911; NordP; ...
This is worth reading ... and grasping the pure hell we could be living if this, God forbid, EVER happened, and it will .. if we don't gin up our prayers, attitudes and actions. THINGS CAN ALWAYS BE WORSE AND THIS WOULD BE UNBEARABLE .. AS WELL AS PAVING THE WAY FOR THE SHEBEAST!

Read this slowly and focus on its dire implications:

In recent weeks, Democrats have become more vocal about their chances of winning back the House this year. Winning the majority would not only give them power to launch investigations into the administration but also the ability to launch impeachment proceedings against Bush for alleged abuse of power. Rep. John Conyers (D-Michigan) is a leading voice for this approach.

But Pelosi, who favors investigations, is distancing herself from the more draconian action of impeachment. Instead the California Democrat is promoting a "new direction for America - one that works for all Americans, not just the privileged few," according one of the talking points in the e-mail to strategists and supporters.

"During the first week we control Congress, we will put the focus on our bold initiatives to energize Americans," Daly declared in the e-mail before ticking off a number of proposals ranging from raising the minimum wage and lowering the cost of prescription drugs to implementing the 9/11 Commission recommendations.

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Don't believe ONE word of Pelosi's refutation of any impeachment plans ... NOT FOR A SECOND. The years of any Democrat reign would truly be a Reign of Terror.

497 posted on 05/12/2006 11:13:55 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump....


498 posted on 05/12/2006 11:19:13 PM PDT by tcrlaf (ot)
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To: Las Vegas Dave; Quix

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629748/posts?page=34#34


499 posted on 05/12/2006 11:20:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: staytrue
If that is your choice, please do it. We have no use for you and your attitude poisons the well and keeps us from attracting even more voters.

Of course, only right to lifers get to draw lines in the sand. I'm fighting for folks in the primary who do care about the illegals issue; I'm also a realist. I know that they're going to lose. I'll be going to the polls in November, but I'll be skipping the races that don't deal with this issue. I won't be doing what I'm doing now, which is spending 4-8 hours a week on GOTV efforts, registering voters, doing house calls on those who haven't voted in the last couple elections, helping at the local GOP office.

See, I'm not just sitting on my ass whining like others do; I'm in the trenches, pushing my agenda, like anyone else should be doing. But it isn't penetrating at the local office (where they whine about their illegal gardeners), nor is it penetrating at my congresscritter's office where he gets around to denouncing illegals about three days before the election. I have a state GOP that isn't even running a warm body for the senate, and what is being sent to the state house isn't worth much either.

And it'd be nice if politicians would support concepts backed by nearly two thirds of the voters, even in the liberal land where I live. I'm tired of seeing us spend further into debt, but I can understand part of it - we're at war. I'm tired of seeing public employees and elected representatives make it worse through far too many benefits and retirement. But that's how the system works right now. But I'm through giving in to handing over large portions of this country to folks who are just here to take our money and our services.

And if that is poisoning the well, then the well is well and truly already poisoned.
500 posted on 05/13/2006 3:37:38 AM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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