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VANITY: Sunday Alcohol Sales....Blue laws good or bad?
Georgia Dawg

Posted on 07/06/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg

Hi all....

FReepers have been very helpful in the past and I wanted to touch base to see if you could help again.

Our city council is debating putting Sunday alcohol sales on the ballot, yet again. The matter has been defeated twice in the past few years, but they are considering the referendum again.

While I am a believer of seperation of church and state, I also believe in keeping the Sabbath holy....can this be reconciled? I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments on any experience any of you have had with this issue...

Georgia Dawg


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: GeorgiaDawg

Even Massachusetts has repealed its alcohol-related Blue Laws.

So now if you suddenly decide to invite some friends over for dinner on a Sunday evening, you can get wine, beer and liquor.

It's really a lot better. Plus it means people don't have to go to a bar to have a drink on a Sunday, which means theydon't have to drive.


21 posted on 07/06/2006 11:43:41 AM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: Xenalyte; GeorgiaDawg; Ouderkirk

I was born and raised in TX and lived in WA for 3 years. I'm accustomed to sales after noon on Sunday and that's limited to beer and wine in TX...not sure about WA anymore, since I left in 1980.

I see nothing wrong with that as it stands. But I do see that this as a rehash of the argument about whether or not the nation is founded upon Christian principles. I happen to believe that it was, so I honor those principles by adhering to the Sunday liquor law in my state. If a person is so desperate to drink for those extra four hours, I'd say he has bigger problems than the liquor laws.


22 posted on 07/06/2006 11:44:16 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: GeorgiaDawg

It is not the government's place to determine this. Alcohol should be sold whenever a vendor or buyer would like. (In fact, the government should be out of the selling business all together, but that is a different issue.)

YOU keep the day Holy by observing it any way you want.

I think Blue laws are an abomination.


23 posted on 07/06/2006 11:44:27 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: GeorgiaDawg

This may come a big suprise to some folks:

The people who will drink on Sunday upon repeal of the blue laws are already drinking on Sunday. They buy more on Saturday.

The people who do not drink on Sunday now, probably do not drink on other days either. They will not likely start due to repeal of the blue laws.

I've never really understood why people get so excited over it whenever the subject comes up for consideration.


24 posted on 07/06/2006 11:44:41 AM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

Can't you keep the Sabbath holy by deciding yourself about the purchase of alcohol, and let others that believe differently, do the same?


25 posted on 07/06/2006 11:44:41 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

Keeping the sabbath holy applies to you and yours. No matter what store is open, you and you alone have to make the choice to do something that honors the sabbath or does not.

Blue Laws are stupid, laws should not enforce religious beliefs.

Not to mention, which sabbath are you referring to? IIRC doesn't Jewish sabbath begin sunset on Friday? Seems to me if you want to make a law that protects "the sabbath" you would have to outlaw those sales from sunset friday until monday morning. ; )


26 posted on 07/06/2006 11:44:51 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

I loved the blue laws. I think they helped make life more civil. I cried when large stores opened on Sundays. It changed the entire tenor of the state.


27 posted on 07/06/2006 11:44:55 AM PDT by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Same here, man!

Also, I don't care for sleeping on the couch.


28 posted on 07/06/2006 11:45:42 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Down with Half-Assery!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

Hmm...as a non-Christian, I have no problem with people buying alcohol on Sundays. The trouble with these blue laws is that they apply to everyone, but are based on the Christian (mostly) idea that Sunday is the Sabbath.

For non-Christians, that idea has no relevance. Even for some Christians, like Seventh Day Adventists and Messianic Christians, it is also silly, since they celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday.

The bottom line is that Christians who feel that buying alcohol on Sundays is wrong should not buy alcohol on Sundays. That's simple enough, I think.


29 posted on 07/06/2006 11:46:18 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: American_Centurion
Seems to me if you want to make a law that protects "the sabbath" you would have to outlaw those sales from sunset friday until monday morning. ; )

You're begging for a suicide bomber from a certain unnamed religion unless you include the entire day of Friday.

30 posted on 07/06/2006 11:47:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Loose lips sink ships - and the New York Times really doesn't have a problem with sinking ships.)
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To: AppyPappy

Ironically, Mass. has (or had when I went to school there) Sunday blue laws. I think they were all day.

The fraternity used to drive to NH on Sunday, if over consumption ocurred.

Much safer, that drunken drive.


31 posted on 07/06/2006 11:47:23 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: GeorgiaDawg

not to be confused with GeorgiaDawg32..:-)


32 posted on 07/06/2006 11:47:25 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

Jesus was a bootlegger. He made wine and I assume did not pay the required tax.


33 posted on 07/06/2006 11:47:41 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: GeorgiaDawg

I can't believe the reply of most of the FReepers here. Look, if a person can't go one day out of seven without buying alcohol, they surely have problems.


34 posted on 07/06/2006 11:48:11 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Ouderkirk
It's just unseemly to be buying beer/liquor at 8 am on a Sunday

Just on a Sunday?

35 posted on 07/06/2006 11:48:22 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (At least drunken sailors spend their own money, Congress doesn't.)
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To: Ouderkirk
It's just unseemly to be buying beer/liquor at 8 am on a Sunday

First, "unseemliness" is a stupid thing to base criminal law upon. Second, if it unseemly at 8am on Sunday, what makes it okay on Monday at 8 am or at noon on Sunday? Third, why should, say, Orthodox Jews have to forgo their Sunday morning shopping if you don't have to forgo your Saturday Sabbath mercantile activity?

36 posted on 07/06/2006 11:48:32 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: plain talk

Someone has to work on Sunday at all those places.


37 posted on 07/06/2006 11:49:14 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Remember, the Liberals Hate Us More than They Hate Bush.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

'Give to Caesar that which is Caesars'

Since Caesar didn't create grapes, no tax needed to be paid.


38 posted on 07/06/2006 11:49:26 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Froufrou
But I do see that this as a rehash of the argument about whether or not the nation is founded upon Christian principles. I happen to believe that it was, so I honor those principles by adhering to the Sunday liquor law in my state. If a person is so desperate to drink for those extra four hours, I'd say he has bigger problems than the liquor laws.

Bingo.
39 posted on 07/06/2006 11:49:54 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Froufrou
But I do see that this as a rehash of the argument about whether or not the nation is founded upon Christian principles. I happen to believe that it was, so I honor those principles by adhering to the Sunday liquor law in my state. If a person is so desperate to drink for those extra four hours, I'd say he has bigger problems than the liquor laws.

Bingo.
40 posted on 07/06/2006 11:49:56 AM PDT by NinoFan
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