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PRESIDENTIAL OBSERVATIONS BY THE SECRET SERVICE
NA | NA | Dave Kulow

Posted on 10/04/2006 8:59:53 AM PDT by dvan

We had a neighbor, when I lived in DC, who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer.

Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current President Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go. One carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.

Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.

WHAT WAS: Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes, Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence.

Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady.The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.

Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life.Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her, and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.

Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband.They were embarrassed for his sake, by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors, Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife.

It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other, and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely.

Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and ccasionally would smile at, or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.

His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton.They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way.

Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary, but soon after the election she had her "pegged", and no longer liked her, or associated with her, except for events that were politically obligatory

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter, and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail.

He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"

Word of this insult by the former Vice-president quickly spread, and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President,and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won.

This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

WHAT IS: Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest, and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.

She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation.There is nothing false about her.

This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect, and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail.

Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail, and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.

He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent.

It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.


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KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; gore; hillary; kennedy; lbj; secretservice
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To: presently no screen name
I suspect, hands off the children and rightfully so.

Not what I meant... Just meant their points of view regarding the young ladies, not anything else. They commented on how nice Chelsea was.

161 posted on 10/04/2006 11:26:54 AM PDT by madison10
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To: dvan

Certainly printing and sharing this with liberal friends who still have a brain.


162 posted on 10/04/2006 11:27:53 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: madison10

Well, the reports that trickle in will depend on how much of a sense of humor the SS has, I guess. I think we can all say that the job wasn't boring, the first couple of years:')


163 posted on 10/04/2006 11:30:38 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: RockinRight
Naaa, I always got the impression that Chelsea's probably OK deep down...although as she gets older I'm sure she'll either turn into a coldhearted shrew like her mother, or into a lying, sleazy, but oddly charismatic scumbag like her old man. But enough about Web Hubble...

I think Hitlery's personality came through the birth canal with her. Chelsea may have escaped, at least, imprinting and environmental influences by probably seldom having her mother actually around her or caring for her personally in her formative years/ momma is not the motherly type

164 posted on 10/04/2006 11:32:28 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: johnny7

"The skinny on Chelsea surprised me...'
Amazing, isn't it? Maybe some of the influence of the "Village" rubbed off on her.


165 posted on 10/04/2006 11:32:56 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Quilla

Than's the one Thanks!


166 posted on 10/04/2006 11:33:59 AM PDT by don-o (Monthly donor and proud of it! There is NO free lunch!)
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To: dvan

And then we've got Tony Snow...who was not a fan of President Bush...once he went to work for him he now knows him...his admiration for him is OFF the charts...


167 posted on 10/04/2006 11:36:31 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Western Phil

To me she always seemed like a quiet girl that did what she was told. I didn't like how some people talked about her when she was a pre-teen.


168 posted on 10/04/2006 11:38:38 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: dvan
Snicker. " 'The Smartest Woman in the World,' was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail.
169 posted on 10/04/2006 11:42:26 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: dvan

Wonderful Post!

A man I date had a son who worked in Secret Service for 42 & 43. He was assigned to Pres Bush(43) detail initially.

When a president leaves office the SS are asked to sign up for the outgoing president on a volunteer basis. Normally there is a LOT of names requesting this .. and agents are chosen with some turned down...

BUT

... for Clinton's family there were NO volunteers. My friends son was one of them removed from 43 assigned to 42. He dropped out of the SS rather than serve Clinton. He is now a federal air Marshall.

His stories were much like you reported... She was a witch & he a pleasant often but unworthy of respect or trust. Someone you definitely would not want to "take a bullet for"

170 posted on 10/04/2006 11:43:35 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Buggman
I have a photo essay - here it is


171 posted on 10/04/2006 11:49:48 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: RockinRight

How long ago was your divorce? ;)


172 posted on 10/04/2006 11:51:25 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: johnny7
I loved this photo of Chelsea at the opening of the Clinton Library she was being ignored by her own parents and the President made a point of interacting with her, a true gentleman.

173 posted on 10/04/2006 11:53:19 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Chile


174 posted on 10/04/2006 11:53:33 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: johnny7

Never been married.


175 posted on 10/04/2006 11:54:50 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: dvan

Thanks for posting that! I got a simlar read on Kennedy and Johnson from an ex Secret Service agent 30 years ago.


176 posted on 10/04/2006 11:56:56 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: snugs

That story really says a lot doesn't it Eleanor?


177 posted on 10/04/2006 11:57:35 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: don-o
I do

178 posted on 10/04/2006 11:59:56 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: wagglebee

I remember reading this article quite a while ago.


179 posted on 10/04/2006 12:03:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

I think it's just urban legend stuff.


180 posted on 10/04/2006 12:04:29 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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