Posted on 10/04/2006 8:59:53 AM PDT by dvan
We had a neighbor, when I lived in DC, who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.
Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer.
Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.
The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current President Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go. One carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.
Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.
WHAT WAS: Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes, Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence.
Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady.The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life.Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her, and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband.They were embarrassed for his sake, by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors, Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife.
It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other, and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely.
Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and ccasionally would smile at, or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.
His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton.They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way.
Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary, but soon after the election she had her "pegged", and no longer liked her, or associated with her, except for events that were politically obligatory
Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter, and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail.
He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"
Word of this insult by the former Vice-president quickly spread, and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President,and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won.
This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.
WHAT IS: Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest, and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation.There is nothing false about her.
This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."
Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect, and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail.
Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail, and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.
He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent.
It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.
I heard very much the same about GHW Bush and Barbra. I had heard Barbra referred to as "the Grandma everyone wished they had".
Ronald Reagan likewise was a kind gentleman to his agents. Nancy, well she was no Barbra that's for sure. She was not nearly as warm and friendly. She she was extremely protective of Ronald and wanted everything to be perfect. This perfectionism sometimes caused her to get upset about little things. But she did have a good heart.
That should read, I believe every word of YOUR post. Lazy fingers on the keyboard!
The skinny on Chelsea surprised me...
Was that in Russia?
I love it!!!
I'm sure they are - as to talking to the media and such.
But that doesn't mean they can't express their opinions or relate them to friends, family or as "unidentified sources" :o)
Not much of anything by way of surprises.
Would like to hear about Reagan, though. I'd say he was great. Nancy might have been, well, perhaps not quite as nice as Laura (not obviously not an Al or a Hillary)
This thing has been circulating the internet for years -- although I'm sure there is some truth to it -- you might want to exercise caution in circulating this "a good friend told me . . . " email.
What about the Barbara and Jenna? Don't they get watched, too? Are they mean? ;) (I know they're not, but the guys probably don't want to say...)
One of my all time favorite Bush moments!
(South America) I played that clip over and over..."Get your hands off him!"
Imagine that. Being nice to the people who hold your life in their hands. Not that they aren't every bit as kind in general as the article implies. But it only takes a little bit of brains to realize that if you want your guy to step in front of you when its going down, instead of hitting the ground, you might want to say "hey" every once in a while.
I figure she knows way too much about him for him to ever take a chance on her testifying against him.
While what you say is no doubt true, and not at all surprising, it still concerns me to hear of Secret Service agents gossiping this way. The safety of past, present and future presidents can easily be marginalized by their indiscretions. As much as most of us hate BJ and Hitlery, it would still be disasterous for this country if something happened to them as a result of a security breach.
Opinions are one thing...and that is fine...but details of this sort go beyond that. Do not get me wrong, as I stated, I believe this is the case and agree with it. But if we have secret service agents going into this level of detail with their neighbors, they are proving by their own actions, IMHO, that they are a significant security risk themselves.
Chile?
I had the pleasure to work the security detail for Bush 41 and also for candidate Clinton just prior to the election. Bush was a true gentleman who thanked each of us individually for our work just before he went "wheels up." Clinton, on the other hand, was a royal pain in the rear. While Bill was in town campaigning, Hillary showed up late in the evening. We (locals) were told by the standing detail that they had gotten into a hugh fight that evening and actually stayed on separate floors. In any event, he left before she did and I had the lead car in the motorcade to her private jet. As we were on the tarmac, one of her staffers tapped me on the shoulder and asked if I would like to shake Mrs. Clinton's hand as some of the Deputy Sheriffs were doing. I told him no thanks and kept my post. It was truly one of the highlights of my career.
All this has been hashed and rehashed....so what
is new? is are the press going to have something
similar to the Swift boat ads...for the sinking of
Hillary? Don't hold your breath...lots of talk,
but they cover their own A## and they will be mute
before and during the 2008 election,if Hillary is
the nominee.....no guts, no glory???? Jake
I think that was probably one of those "bonding, but we aren't going to talk about this" moments :')
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