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New Insights Into Healthful Compounds In Native American Diets
Science Daily ^ | 10-10-2006

Posted on 10/10/2006 7:17:41 PM PDT by blam

New Insights Into Healthful Compounds In Native American Diets

In an advance toward understanding the early California Native American diet, food scientists have identified the full range of phytochemicals in tanoak acorns.

Acorns were a staple in the diet of early Native Americans in California, comprising up to 50 percent of total food intake, Alyson E. Mitchell and colleagues note in a report in the current (Oct. 4) issue of the ACS biweekly Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry.

Acorns are still used by Californian Native Americans -- special processing is needed to make the nuts edible -- to make acorn flour and soup.

Past research has indicated that acorns have higher levels of healthful tannin compounds than other nuts, so Mitchell's group set out to identify the specific hydrolyzable and condensed tannins in acorns. These same compounds are found in wine, cocoa and other foods with health benefits.

Researchers identified more than two dozen specific compounds, in what they termed a first step toward understanding the role of those compounds in Native American diets.


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KEYWORDS: acorns; americans; compound; diets; godsgravesglyphs; healthful; indians; insights; native; tanoaks
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Yes - the high-tannin oaks like the Red Oak take a lot longer than the low-tannin ones like the White Oak. You can tell by biting into one if it needs more soaking. Tannin won't kill you but it tastes pretty nasty. OTOH, it will cure leather...


21 posted on 10/10/2006 7:55:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Much appreciated, again.


22 posted on 10/10/2006 7:56:35 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: blam

Skeletons show rotten and broken teeth. Signs of advanced malnutrition, deficiency diseases, repeated incidence of starvation. Lots of social violence and abuse too.

No matter what they tell you, it wasn't "Song of Hiawatha."


23 posted on 10/10/2006 8:18:34 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Bush Assassination Flick. Save your liberal friends a few bucks: the black guy in the tux dunnit.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Skeletons show rotten and broken teeth. Signs of advanced malnutrition, deficiency diseases, repeated incidence of starvation. Lots of social violence and abuse too.

Depends on where you are.

More often in California you have worn, not rotten or broken, teeth. Cavities are extremely rare. Most of the diseases you mention are scarce, and violence/abuse is far from universal. In the area I study it is minimal.

24 posted on 10/10/2006 8:22:45 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Billthedrill

You can eat acorns if you have to, but if you have enough game meat, berries, tubers and fruit, it is probably best to leave dubious foods alone, and by this I mean foods that have to be soaked, sprayed, danced around or prayed over to become edible. I don't eat anything that has to go through a filtration process, except whiskey.


25 posted on 10/10/2006 8:29:54 PM PDT by ashtanga
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To: Billthedrill
They invented popcorn and chocolate, too. Talk to me about healthy.

Actually, quality chocolates and freshly popped popcorn, even if or especially if popped in a little canola oil, can be quite healthful. Tannins, fiber, vitamins.

Poor grade, too sweet chocolates, not so good. Theatre popcorn, and it's store bought equivalents, soaked in pretend butter stuff and dusted within an inch of it's life with msg-like salt product and 'flavors', not so good. ;-)

26 posted on 10/10/2006 8:30:22 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: ashtanga
You can eat acorns if you have to, but if you have enough game meat, berries, tubers and fruit, it is probably best to leave dubious foods alone, and by this I mean foods that have to be soaked, sprayed, danced around or prayed over to become edible.

Acorns are more nutritious than wheat. They simply need to be ground up and soaked in water for a while. That removes the bitter tannic acid.

Deer eat acorns straight off the trees and do fine, although the meat gets a stronger flavor.

27 posted on 10/10/2006 8:42:08 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Billthedrill
"Yes - the high-tannin oaks like the Red Oak take a lot longer than the low-tannin ones like the White Oak. You can tell by biting into one if it needs more soaking. Tannin won't kill you but it tastes pretty nasty. OTOH, it will cure leather..."

The fresh water streams and rivers in this area (Mobile) are the color of tea from all the oaks in this area. The soil is very acidic too.

28 posted on 10/10/2006 8:53:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: fortunecookie
Theatre popcorn, and it's store bought equivalents, soaked in pretend butter stuff and dusted within an inch of it's life with msg-like salt product and 'flavors', not so good.

Uh, yeah, right. (A chiming sound in the background, stifled by the sock BtD is stuffing over the mike.) Unhealthy, well, we wouldn't want...uh...'scuse me for a minute, the microwave is calling to me... ;-)

29 posted on 10/10/2006 8:58:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Rotten and broken teeth were common the world over until recently.


30 posted on 10/10/2006 9:10:00 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: ashtanga

How about water?


31 posted on 10/10/2006 9:10:47 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: Coyoteman

So the acorns are: ground into a mush; mixed with water and soaked--for how long?; drained; and then dried into flour?


32 posted on 10/10/2006 9:14:04 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: Billthedrill
the high-tannin oaks like the Red Oak take a lot longer than the low-tannin ones like the White Oak

...sooo...to be correct...it's White Oak with fish and Red Oak with meat?

33 posted on 10/10/2006 9:16:38 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

google for

ACORN RECIPES


34 posted on 10/10/2006 9:20:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Billthedrill

One web site mentions the "hang the ground acorns in a cloth bag in your toilet tank" method.


35 posted on 10/10/2006 9:23:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"Rotten and broken teeth were common the world over until recently."

Still are in lots of places...


36 posted on 10/10/2006 9:35:25 PM PDT by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: Syntyr

Agreed.


37 posted on 10/10/2006 9:38:33 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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Sure, good idea. Thanks Blam. Of interest, Coleus?

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To: paulat
A mmmph mmmmph mph mngmph. What? Nothing! Mmpnghph mmpgh mmbgph. I admit nothing! Anyway, the bowl is empty...uh...

Tannin is present in red wine. Chocolate and a fine Cabernet...look, it isn't because I like it, it's for my health. Yeah...yeah, that's it...

39 posted on 10/10/2006 9:49:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Being a Ewell Gibbons-type myself, I've tasted a few acorns. Trust me, there is a reason we modern folks don't eat them.


40 posted on 10/11/2006 3:27:32 AM PDT by Renfield
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