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"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER" (Not the Tom Clancy novel)
Free Republic ^ | 11/12/2006 | gonzo

Posted on 11/12/2006 7:35:46 PM PST by gonzo

The following are copys of e-mails that I've sent to my employees up North (I live in Florida now), and Jim Robinson...

"Re: What's goin' on...

To Jim Robinson | 10/19/2006 4:43:47 AM EDT sent

Howdy Jim. Barry/gonzo here. What follows is an e-mail that I sent to my troops up North at my Company in South Bend, Indiana. They're a bunch of rabid VRWC buffs, and they wanted my take on world events, after I had warned them to 'keep their powder dry'.

A few days later, I sent this to Jim:

BTW, Jim, those TU-142's are actually TU-95's, an upgraded version of the 142. A little stronger, but still a 'Bear'. My bad. I flagged you on a thread about them.

............Barry/gonzo I didn't want to post it as a thread on FR because, well, I think I'm close to being right, and 'loose lips and all...'."
Here goes, with some other observations afterwards:

To my employees and JimRob:
Baryshery@aol.com wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1719198/posts

This link is part of a good look at the Enemies of the USA. There are active links on the thread that are also excellent, especially # 20.
READ THIS BEFORE YOU CLICK THE LINK, PLEASE:

I don't often write messages like this - in fact, not for 28 years as I remember, so here goes:

North Korea claims to have recently tested a nuclear bomb. This is highly unlikely, given all the intel that has been obtained, but they did explode something, on the order of about 800,000 pounds of TNT (tri-nitro-toluene), which is possible. Whether or not the little maniac running that Country has or can make a working A-Bomb in the future is irrelevant. North Korea is now under a virtual blockade of any shipments of any nuclear materials out of Korea, courtesy of the UN (the UN is a joke, but the votes are in, and Korean goods can and will be siezed on the high seas as necessary).
What is important is that they have already shipped a number of their possibly operational Big-Dong missles to Iran! Those missles in Iran can reach Israel, all of Europe, and much of Russia and Asia.

Now, I'm the only one here(at BAMAR) that can remember the Korean War as current events. China entered the Korean War on the side of the North (unofficially) when it appeared that the UN-Allied powers were about to defeat North Korea. China is now stuck with NK as their very-own bastard stepchild. I love the irony of it, because China doesn't want a nuke-enabled NK either, so they voted for blockade! So, for all intensive purposes, NK is no further problem.

Now, Iran: Iran is now making fissile material (stuff-that-goes-big-bang) for nuclear weapons, and will have enough material for their first A-Bomb before April, 2007, and possibly by December, 2006.
The guy in charge in Iran, who I call 'Amanutjob', is insane, and has often said, amongst other things, that he intends to destroy Israel, the United States, and anyone else that doesn't convert to Islam, and I believe he is sincere. He's crazy, but he's not kidding!
He also welcomes Armageddon, even and especially a nuclear one, and I believe him!
I think that he must be stopped, and that he will be stopped!

I hoped that our President Bush would be strong enough to give the order to destroy Irans' nuclear capability with conventional arms (and we have them in quantity), even if the USA had to go it alone. Logistically, Israel doesn't have the means, and is too far away to do it without using nukes, so it's up to the USA.
Middle-last week it was reported that Russia was activating quite a number of their old TU-142 Bear intercontinental bombers. These are relics of the Cold War, and wouldn't stand a chance going up against any defenses of the US, Britain, or even France (if France didn't surrender first). They can, however, carry and drop a huge bomb load over distance, and they were reliable. Therefore, I think Russia's in the coming fight on the side of 'the Good Guys'.

So, I said all that, to say this:
I think that sometime after the elections on November 7, (vote, dammit!) and before April, 2007, Irans' nuclear capabilities are going to be seriously attrited (we're gonna bomb the very-living-shit outa their facilities) using conventional weapons. We're also going to secure Irans' Southern oil facilities to protect them (Google - Maps of Iran), and also protect the Straits of Hormuz (see Maps...) by invading Iran from Iraq. (Gee, who would have thought that we'd already be in Iraq?)
When this starts (shit-hitting-the-fan), every so-called Mosque in the USA and in other Countries becomes a potential den of murderous zealots. Christians and Jews don't store weapons and explosives in their Churches and Synagogues, but Moslems do it all the time!!

It may be prudent to take steps to be able to protect ourselves before anything bad happens.
I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Neville Chamberlain (Google) was wrong, and about 90,000,000 souls subsequently perished.
I've read the Bible, both Testaments.
I've read the Koran (Quran), and it sucks!
Islam is not a religion - it is a cult of death.
I'm reading up on The Crusades now.(I think we're in one again, and this time, it's for keeps!)

I'll be happy to answer any questions. This is the longest letter I've ever written, and I can't even type!

Stay well, y'all, and hope to see you soon......................Barry

PS: And I thought the only nutbars I'd have to think about were these wierd Scientologists around
here..............B
End of e-mail.

To JimRob:
Additional info (and I don't want to dig too deep):

The USAF is presently working out of an Air Base in far Eastern Russia (Base name unknown), WITH the Russians. There was a ground collision accident there with a plane subsequently burning up. A USAF Tanker (KC-135 or KC-10) was involved. The story made page 99, and then went down the memory hole. I think we're arming the Russians with Smart Bombs, and possibly helping with mid-air re-fueling.

My personal opinion is that a three-pronged attack plan is being hatched:

#1)-The USA and Great Britain (and others) are in Iraq, and will commence Air and Ground ops against Iran as noted above. There may well be an amphibious incursion in the East (Google Maps of Iran).All conventional weaponry.

#2)-Israel will move North into Lebanon and finish-off Hizbolla (it made NO sense for them to stop last time), and will probably continue into Syria. The USA and Brits will probably lend Air cover as needed. All conventional weaponry.

#3)-Russia will probably be tasked with bombing the North Korean nuclear-bomb facilities, and maybe not the nuclear power plants - anybodys guess, but L'il Kim gets dead.
The Russians may help in Iran in the second wave of bombings as necessary, because those TU-142's are just too damned noisy. All conventional weaponry.

#4)-China will cooperate with all sides, but will stay out of the fight. Instead, I think they'll provide safe air passage and any intel they can. Theirs has become a peculiar form of Communism, and is actually transitioning into the biggest Capitalist Country in the World. They're not going to attack their largest market - the USA - and so, will become our new best friend.

#5)-After the initial destruction is completed, we'll probably call a time-out on the field, and ask the muzzies if they want to quit their evil ways, or would they like us to get serious with Nuclear Weapons?

#6)-It depends on their answer to #5!

Jim, when 9/11 happened, I knew in my gut that the muzzies (wogs) were going to NEED an object lesson in order to change their minds, just as the Germans and Japanese needed Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki to change theirs.
It is no accident that the USA is presently in Iraq, effectively splitting Syria and Iran, and positioned to take and hold the important parts of Iran.
I think that we know where all the Iraqi WMD's are buried in Syria, and that they're Chem and Bio weapons, that we'll burn later.

In my conversations with my troops (employees) up North, I've just cautioned them to be prepared for the possibility of some internal civil unrest here in the USA, started by Islamaniacs that are already here, in their mosques. It'll take some time for local Police to regain control.

Well, that's it so far, Jim! After the elections and before April, 2007! As I pick up more data, I'll add to this.


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To: unspun

I know what Coast to Coast is. Definitely not a fan.

I did not and do not understand who you are comparing to Noory.

So are you saying that I am Noory?

There are leaks already published and are on FR already quoting the Baker, Gates Hamilton recommedations that will be made public tomorrow. Most of it has to do with horse trades.

It is pretty hard to horse trade with a religous fanatic who believes that if he dies killing you that he will end up with 72 virgins with the understanding that he may remove that description from the ladies' resume.

Maybe I saw that on Power Line


61 posted on 11/12/2006 10:05:53 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: photodawg
Bush made a very bad mistake in trying to sell the Iraq war as a wonderful Christian thing to do; make Iraq a democracy.

He never gave any indication that it was 'the Christian thing to do', but he did say it was the RIGHT thing to do, and I agree. The Middle East needs to be pulled kicking and screaming out of the attitudes of the 7th century, and having one modern, tolerant, nation of free people in the middle of all the others can certainly not hurt!

It is in our country's best interest that terrorism be rooted out. Sadaam, among his many other faults, was supporting terrorism. He may not have directed or paid the 9/11 bombers, but he was certainly supporting those who believed in the same things as the bombers.

62 posted on 11/12/2006 10:07:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: woodbutcher

You're missing a couple of Wildcards....

1-Poland is fast becoming the leader of the Eastern Bloc of the European Union, and it's influence is growing fast.

They have abandoned the old Soviet Military doctrines, and are moving to quality, mobility, survival, and cutting edge training for thier miltary.

The Eastern Bloc is the buffer between a radicalized Middle East, and Europe, while even the Romanians are beginning to emerge as solid US allies..

2-The Emirate States are the financial hub of the Middle East, and realize the Europeans would sell them out in a heartbeat to the Dictator/Mullah of the week in heartbeat.

The U.S. is heavily involved in these states, much of it under the Radar, and out of the media...


63 posted on 11/12/2006 10:11:43 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: woodbutcher
I was speaking about the subject matter of this thread.
64 posted on 11/12/2006 10:11:50 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun
George Noory? Oh jeez - he just came on after Drudge here in Florida! I turned him off, as always...

"...I was speaking about the subject matter of this thread..."

Hey, thanks, unspun! A BTTT is still a BTTT! Stay well armed and safe..............FRegards

65 posted on 11/12/2006 10:24:18 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: gonzo

Just for fun and your entertainment I'm gonna post the summary timeline of an "alternate history" semi SCIFI novel I'm working on. I have a more detailed one if you find it interesting. It will be in the form of the journals of several members of the 101st Airborne as they fight to redeem a crippled and fallen nation. Apocalyptic themes and such are intentional.

Chronology Summary


2004

US forces capture Osama Bin Laden, breaking the back of Al-Qieda. Iraq is stabilized, thousands of foreign combatants captured. President Bush is elected to a second term.

An obscure Italian physicist, Antonio Baldini demonstrates a sustainable fusion reaction.


2005

A pro-democratic coup in Syria leads to installation of a pro-American government. Iraqi WMD, secreted away in that country, are turned over to the US. A US brokered Israeli/Palestinian peace summit, brings hope of resolution of Palestinian problem.

Trials of a space plane begin.


2006

US puts increasing pressure on Iran to abandon WMD programs. US launches pre-emptive air strikes. Gaza granted independence touching of terror bombings by hardliners across Israel.

First fusion plant on line.

2007

US and Iraqi forces invade Iran.

Space plane operational. Space boom begins. Kenji Takeda, of Takeda MicroSystems charters several flights, demonstrates molecular processor. Takeda plans orbit laboratory and manufacturing facility. US begins building space plane under license, plans orbit space port.

2008

Iran surrenders to US/Iraqi forces, democratic government installed. General Hawthorne, commander of the 101st Airmobile Division, named as C. Rice’s running mate in presidential elections, win by large margin. World economy booms.

Takeda moves into his orbital manufacturing facility, where his daughter is born. Takeda launches Kimnet, first as a marketing tool for his molecular chips. Kimnet takes on a life of it’s own as the world becomes obsessed with Kimiko Takeda, the first child born in orbit. US invests heavily in space development, a new lunar initiative, orbit ship yard, as well as military projects. Baldini opens several fusion plants this year, as well as revealing that he is expecting seventy children in the fall through a group of surrogate mothers.

2009

Arab-Israeli peace accords end sixty year of conflict. Extremist groups respond to peace treaty with worldwide wave of terror bombings. The USMC begins orbital training, including orbital insertion exercises.

US prepares for manned mission to colonize Mars. Luna colony founded. Orbital boom continues. Baldini starts construction of space city DaVinci, also introduces fusion tunneling device dubbed the “mole.” Kimiko’s first birthday viewed by over one billion viewers.

2010

Moscow is destroyed by an act of nuclear terrorism. Chechen terrorists with Saudi financing blamed. Russian government collapses. Sixteen days later, president Rice is assassinated by an Yemeni suicide bomber. World economy collapses. US/Iraqi/Syrian forces enter the Saudi peninsula after fundamentalist coup overthrows house of Saud.

Luna colony expands with help of fusion mole. US launches asteroid mine ship “Yosemite”. USMC orbital base “Tripoli” operational. Mars terraforming begins. EU completes space catapult in Guyana.

2011

Second Korean war, ends with nuclear exchange. US orbital defenses prevent three N.K. IRBMs from reaching west coast. Radical Islamists seize control in Pakistan.

2012

N. Korea reunifies with the south. Islamist coup in Egypt. New Russian government enters alliance with Egypt/Pakistan/Yemen. Sudan civil war begins. Short Indo-Pakistan war ends in stalemate. President Hawthorne re-elected.

US presence on Mars and in asteroid belt. Baldini launches first ion ship, moves his children to orbital academy. Takeda begins mass production of the mindmirror.

2013

Boston and Miami are destroyed by nuclear terrorism. Sweeping powers are granted to US military to combat terror.

Martian land rush in wake of nuclear attacks on US.

2014

Al-Masood, preaching a modernized of Al-Murij-ah, negotiates peace in Sudan.

US space elevator operational in Hawaiian islands. Baldini introduces advanced fusion tunneler christened the “earthworm”.

2015

Al-Masood begins Africa walk, wins Nobel Peace Prize.

US/Corp presence on Io, Europa, EU base on Venus. US shipbourne space elevator operational. Baldini theorized Q ship.

2016

Al Masood’s Rift Valley Discourses. US moves toward appeasement of radical Islamists with the election of Cardwell as president.

US/Corp orbital station established in Jupiter orbit. Trans-Mediterranean tunnel completed.

2017

Prophet delivers Cape Discourses, then tours western Africa. UN international corps founded. US agrees to serve under UN control in future deployments. US begins worldwide troop withdrawals and base closures.

Gas mine completed in Jupiter orbit. Kimiko releases first album “Geosynchronis”.

2018

Prophet enters Egypt precipitating collapse of radical government. UN forces deployed to Nigeria and S. Africa to quell unrest following prophet’s visit. Ex-president Hawthorne moves to Iceland.

Kimiko releases volume of poetry, “Weightless Words”. Baldini begins Q-ship trials near his newly completed facility around Pluto. First Q-ship jump ends with mysterious accident.






2019

Confederation of African States, (CAS), formed after African Unity Conference. Al-Masood named president. Prophet announces African Eden project, donations steam in from around the world, UN forces offered to enforce project.

2020

Al-Masood enter Israel with the ark of the covenant, recovered from Ethiopian Copts. Expert analysis of relic categorically refused. Al-Masood delivers his Galilean Discourses precipitating schism throughout Islam. US enters into historic, worldwide nuclear disarmament agreement. Vatican III supports transnationalism and tolerance. Great schism in Roman church leads to formation of Spanish Apostolic Catholic Church. President Cardwell is re-elected in US.

Kimiko publishes second volume of poetry, “Presence”.

2021

Islamic shockwave ends with Medina Council. Message of prophet accepted, proclaimed, “Lamp of the Prophet”. Islamic Unity Conference follows, leading to integration with CAS.

Mars colonies continue to grow, Mars Studios opens. Hawthorne publishes “Science, War and Culture.” Kimiko’s second album, “Halls of Valhalla”.

2022

Second Indo/Pakistan war in ten years ends in nuclear exchange. Al-Masood brokers a peace agreement favorable to Pakistan, UN forces enter India.

Kimiko releases third album, “Olympians” prior to first earth tour in relief of victims of Indo/Pakistani war. Kimiko’s ion ship “Vitae” second privately owned ion craft.

2023

Indonesian civil war.

Hawthorn publishes “Blueprint for Betrayal”, condemning the transnational movement. Baldini withdraws to Pluto, calls Hawthorne, “the true prophet”, fatwah issued for death of Hawthorne and Baldini by Islamist fringe.




2024

Hawthorne returns to US to run for president as an independent. Shortly after campaign begins, he is wounded in an assassination attempt. Despite injuries, Hawthorne returns to campaign trail, wins presidency. Prophet declares Hawthorne’s election as evidence of resurgent American militarism. UN world tax is assessed against wealthy nations. Tax causes Mars and Lunar colonies to revolt.

Kimiko’s third volume of poetry “Basis” is released.

2025

Under increasing internal pressure from Unity followers, the EU unravels. Final US forces withdrawn from the Continent. Spanish Civil War begins, US intervenes. Additional conflict between Turkey and Greece. Following the end of the Spanish Civil War, Spanish clerics hold Council of Barcelona launching Spanish Reformation and condemning the prophet as a Son of Satan. Late this year UNITY forces in the PRC begin passive resistance which quickly leads to armed conflict.

2026

PRC collapses, Unity government installed. Prophet announces Unification Government calls for the end of the nation state. UN forces deployed to Sicily to protect Unity followers. US forces enter several Caribbean nations. US Mercenary Charter Act opens door to expanded private military operations.

2027

UN denounces US. League of Independent States formed. Mercenaries deployed to Quebec and Argentina. Spanish and Roman Popes exchange excommunications.

2028

Prophet calls for active resistance against militaristic governments. Protests quickly paralyze US major cities. Martial law quickly follows as situation degrades. Presidential elections suspended. Mars signs neutrality agreement with Unity government.

Kimiko publishes “Splendor” thinly veiled attack on Unity. Book condemned by Unity clerics. Following the release of Splendor, Kimiko announces surprise N. American relief tour. Kimiko abducted in Calgary.

2029

Unity forces build up in Mexico, Morocco, and Manchuria. US forces deployed to Siberia and Spain.

Kimiko rescued by mercenary company from remote village in Cameroon. Shortly after her rescue, Kimiko publishes “Pillar” and releases apocalyptic rock opera, “Behold the Man”.


66 posted on 11/12/2006 10:27:20 PM PST by Uriah_lost (We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
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To: tcrlaf

I agree that I overlooked all of that.

But I fail to see how they change the potential. Not that I am arguing the point, but that I need help understanding.

They will surely be allies.

And if you read about the Ottoman Empire and its attempt to over run Europe some 600 years ago, Poland was what stopped them.

But I think the point here is that we could prevent it from reaching that point by sticking in Iraq but that the suits and correct ties are taking over.

They remind me of insurance adjusters. Anyone can split a number by two. Not really a talent to brag about.


67 posted on 11/12/2006 10:27:23 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: gonzo
Happy to bump. It's entertaining. Did you ever read this, linked previously by a fellow FReeper?

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm

I think you'll get a kick out of it.

68 posted on 11/12/2006 10:28:35 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Uriah_lost

I like your tag line.

I hope you find it.

Quick. Before you post again


69 posted on 11/12/2006 10:30:45 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: gonzo
In all seriousness, I think there will have to be much more violence and unrest fomented by the Jihadists, much of it against their fellow Muslims, much of it not, before the rest of the world pays enough attention to wage much war in return.

To any reader, I do suggest you don't skip this story: "THE FUTURE OF TERRORISM -- What al-Qaida Really Wants".

70 posted on 11/12/2006 10:34:22 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: woodbutcher

I r not smaart anuf 4 U?


71 posted on 11/12/2006 10:38:25 PM PST by Uriah_lost (We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
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To: Thunder90

Another good article…don't know if you've seen this, but I'll post for your review. If you've already read, a thousand pardons.

AMERICA'S ACUPUNCTURE POINTS
PART 2: The assassin's mace
By Victor N Corpus

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HJ20Ad01.html


72 posted on 11/12/2006 11:02:22 PM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: Uriah_lost
Hmmm - 22 years! OK, let's begin:

Gotta give Kimiko gravity somehow. It's Sci-Fi, so invent it - use the Italian guy, Antonio Baldini. None of that centrifugal/centripital stuff.

Q-ship - flesh it out a little. I've read so much Sci-Fi in my life that I can't imagine a new idea, so borrow something, something that has a failure potential in it.

Al-Masood enter Israel with the ark of the covenant, recovered from Ethiopian Copts. You read about that too! Cool! Why not use it?!

As a rough outline, I say: "Why Not Write It?!"

Good luck with filling it out. Several others here on FR are damned good writers, and may give you some tips. Lessee: 'dead', 'Jeff Head', and 'Ironjack' are a few. When I think of the others, I'll flag you. Good Luck, Uriah_lost!..............FRegards

75 posted on 11/13/2006 12:03:53 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: unspun
"...Happy to bump. It's entertaining. Did you ever read this, linked previously by a fellow FReeper?

http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm

I think you'll get a kick out of it..."

No, unspun, I hadn't read it before. Thank you very much for posting the link. I stored the article on my new whiz-bang, 260Gig, USB, portable hard-drive.(I got tired of losing data)

It sounds like my private rantings, though! I'll read more of Dan Simmons writings now. We think alike, but I can't write nearly as well. Something about being an engineer, I guess.

Stay well............FRegards

76 posted on 11/13/2006 1:05:59 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: unspun; jefferson31415; nuconvert; Allegra; MikefromOhio
"...To any reader, I do suggest you don't skip this story: "THE FUTURE OF TERRORISM -- What al-Qaida Really Wants"..."

Excellent story! Required reading!

As in # 25, it must very soon become open-season on all things islam............FRegards

77 posted on 11/13/2006 1:23:15 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: smokehill
"...A better policy would be to make it a very clear U.S. policy that any nuclear or other WMD attack on Israel, or the U.S., will result in immediate nuclear response on either Mecca or Medina, perhaps both. The advantage there is that when these illiterate tribal sociopaths see the Black Rock in Mecca vaporized, and Allah doesn't immediately strike the infidels for their heresy, it might make a good many of them question their mullahs' keen insight into the metaphysical world. Besides, it's easier to pray in the right direction when a healthy green glow emanates therefrom. Think of it as our donation of a convenient night-light for our Muslim friends.

I suspect their religious beliefs are so maniacal and illogical that they are also, at bottom, quite fragile. But just like the similarly foolish Emperor-worship practiced by the Japanese, a massive enough blow to the basic beliefs might start to crack the foundations of their religious delusions.

I absolutely agree with making both Mecca AND Medina glow-in-the-dark, Sarge! But I only see it happenning after a thorough, conventional pounding from the air leaves the muzzies still defiant.

I hope President Bush is up to the job that needs doing, and to-hell with the politically-correct dimocRATS and their fellow-travelers.

Thanks for your service, MSgt. Stay well armed and safe............FRegards

78 posted on 11/13/2006 1:41:10 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Tamzee

Yes. I seriously doubt we'll ever get another vote that permits military action.


79 posted on 11/13/2006 2:26:27 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: gonzo

Just about any sub can sneak up on just about any surface ship anytime, no big deal. USN saying; two kinds of ships in the navy, targets and subs.


80 posted on 11/13/2006 2:37:36 AM PST by exnavy (God does not require anyone to blow themselves to enter heaven.)
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