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US divided by superhighway plan
The Scotsman ^ | Fri 16 Jun 2006 | CRAIG HOWIE

Posted on 11/22/2006 12:42:29 AM PST by Sarajevo

A MASSIVE road four football fields wide and running from Mexico to Canada through the heartland of the United States is being proposed amid controversy over security and the damage to the environment.

The "nation's most modern roadway", proposed between Laredo in Texas and Duluth, Minnesota, along Interstate 35, would allow the US to bypass the west coast ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach to import goods from China and the Far East into the heart of middle America via Mexico, saving both cost and time.

However, critics argue that the ten-lane road would lay a swathe of concrete on top of an already over-developed transport infrastructure and further open the border with Mexico to illegal immigrants or terrorists.

According to a weekly Conservative magazine published in the US, the US administration is "quietly yet systematically" planning the massive highway, citing as a benefit that it would negate the power of two unions, the Longshoremen and Teamsters.

Another source claimed the highway was a "bi-partisan effort" with support from both Republicans and Democrats that would reduce freight transport times across the nation by days.

Under the plan - believed to be an extension of a strategic transportation plan signed in March last year by the US president, George Bush, Paul Martin, the then prime minister of Canada, and Vincente Fox, the Mexican president - imported goods would pass a border "road bump" in the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, before being loaded on to lorries for a straight run to a major hub, or "SmartPort", in Kansas, Oklahoma.

Border guards and customs officers would check the electronic security tags of lorries and their holds at a £1.6 million facility being built in Kansas City, before sending them on to the road network that links the US cities of Chicago, Minneapolis and Detroit with Ottawa, Winnipeg and Vancouver across the Canadian border.

Rail tracks and pipelines for oil and natural gas would run alongside the road.

Following the release of a 4,000-page environmental study, construction of the first leg of the Trans-Texas Corridor is reportedly due to begin next year, backed by US state and governmental agencies and a Spanish private sector company, Concessions de Infraestructuras de Transporte.

Tiffany Melvin, the executive director of Nasco, a non-profit organisation which has received £1.4 million from the US Department of Transport to study the proposal, said: "We're working on developing the existing system; these highways were developed in the 1950s and we have number of different programmes we're working on to provide alternative fuels and improve safety and security issues.

"We get comments that we are working to bring in terrorists and drug dealers, but this is simply not true.

"This is a bi-partisan effort that will ultimately improve our transportation infrastructure.

"Trade with China is increasing greatly, and the costs of our transportation system are ultimately born by the consumer.

"We do offer links to Canada and Mexico, but we are working on the trade competitiveness of America. We are planning for the future."

Eric Olson, the transportation spokesmen for the California-based Sierra Club, a national environmental awareness organisation, said the road would cause significant damage.

"Something on that scale would have a massive environmental impact," he said.

"Building a large-scale new highway does not seem like the best solution.

"There is a great need for fixing our existing roads and bridges. That needs to be a priority before we start building new massive road projects."

A MASSIVE road four football fields wide and running from Mexico to Canada through the heartland of the United States is being proposed amid controversy over security and the damage to the environment.

The "nation's most modern roadway", proposed between Laredo in Texas and Duluth, Minnesota, along Interstate 35, would allow the US to bypass the west coast ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach to import goods from China and the Far East into the heart of middle America via Mexico, saving both cost and time.

However, critics argue that the ten-lane road would lay a swathe of concrete on top of an already over-developed transport infrastructure and further open the border with Mexico to illegal immigrants or terrorists.

According to a weekly Conservative magazine published in the US, the US administration is "quietly yet systematically" planning the massive highway, citing as a benefit that it would negate the power of two unions, the Longshoremen and Teamsters.

Another source claimed the highway was a "bi-partisan effort" with support from both Republicans and Democrats that would reduce freight transport times across the nation by days.

Under the plan - believed to be an extension of a strategic transportation plan signed in March last year by the US president, George Bush, Paul Martin, the then prime minister of Canada, and Vincente Fox, the Mexican president - imported goods would pass a border "road bump" in the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, before being loaded on to lorries for a straight run to a major hub, or "SmartPort", in Kansas, Oklahoma.

Border guards and customs officers would check the electronic security tags of lorries and their holds at a £1.6 million facility being built in Kansas City, before sending them on to the road network that links the US cities of Chicago, Minneapolis and Detroit with Ottawa, Winnipeg and Vancouver across the Canadian border.

Rail tracks and pipelines for oil and natural gas would run alongside the road.

Following the release of a 4,000-page environmental study, construction of the first leg of the Trans-Texas Corridor is reportedly due to begin next year, backed by US state and governmental agencies and a Spanish private sector company, Concessions de Infraestructuras de Transporte.

Tiffany Melvin, the executive director of Nasco, a non-profit organisation which has received £1.4 million from the US Department of Transport to study the proposal, said: "We're working on developing the existing system; these highways were developed in the 1950s and we have number of different programmes we're working on to provide alternative fuels and improve safety and security issues.

"We get comments that we are working to bring in terrorists and drug dealers, but this is simply not true.

"This is a bi-partisan effort that will ultimately improve our transportation infrastructure.

"Trade with China is increasing greatly, and the costs of our transportation system are ultimately born by the consumer.

"We do offer links to Canada and Mexico, but we are working on the trade competitiveness of America. We are planning for the future."

Eric Olson, the transportation spokesmen for the California-based Sierra Club, a national environmental awareness organisation, said the road would cause significant damage.

"Something on that scale would have a massive environmental impact," he said.

"Building a large-scale new highway does not seem like the best solution.

"There is a great need for fixing our existing roads and bridges. That needs to be a priority before we start building new massive road projects."


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To: Sarajevo
"Trade with China is increasing greatly, and the costs of our transportation system are ultimately born by the consumer.

...and the tooth fairy is going to pay for this? Basically this is a plan to eliminate port jobs on the west coast and send them to Mexico.

Lousy idea. If Chinese trade can't be supported on its own, you'd think free traders would abandon the idea instead of promoting multi billion dollar government projects.

...that's assuming that they were philosophically honest amd not just greedy.
81 posted on 11/22/2006 5:29:22 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Dane; Ben Ficklin; All
JMO, the economice benfits of such a highway more than outweigh any tin foil theory "ramification".

Remember that the first time there is a major accident on the hyper-slab which takes out the rail, gas and electric facilities co-habitating with the highway.

You want to talk about economic benefits? How about the 'benefit' of local communities and/or states being forced into providing additional police, fire and rescue services for the inevitable pileups that are going to occur?

Ever see a gigantic chain-reaction crash caused by 'black ice'? Multiply that by the size of this 4-football-field wide structure and think about THOSE 'economic benefits'.

And let's not forget about the tendency of illegals to drive without insurance, now THAT will be a real 'benefit' when it turns out that the local victims of any mishap will be picking up the tab for the emergency services and resources expended.

And those aren't 'conspiracy theories' Ben, those are real life possibilities that would concern any rational American, which is probably why you share Dane's dismissive attitude in all this.
82 posted on 11/22/2006 5:31:18 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Wow! Looks like it goes straight thru ol' Ted Turners property! Hmmm...


83 posted on 11/22/2006 5:31:36 AM PST by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: Old_Mil
"eliminate port jobs on the west coast"

Wrong, the Pacific ports are close to being maxed out and ports in Mexico will have to be used to supplement.

International trade is growing and thru-out the whole world, not just the US, transportation infrastrucure is being expanded to accomodate this trade.

84 posted on 11/22/2006 5:35:31 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Please list which "free roads" will be converted into the TTC.

Hmmm- I see I-35 southwest of Bexar County.

More lies, the land and the highwat will belong to the state.

It is a private toll roadsystem which will be operated by private consortiums, i.e. Cintra-Zachary in Texas.

Corridor Watch

85 posted on 11/22/2006 5:39:20 AM PST by Sarajevo (Stop the Trash-Texas Con-Job!)
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To: Dane
Well I'll be damned! Dane, I think you've found some like-minded people in this thread to be on your Globalist, Freetraitor, OBL, Pro-illegal ping list. Congratulations!
86 posted on 11/22/2006 5:42:05 AM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: wolfcreek
Well I'll be damned! Dane, I think you've found some like-minded people in this thread to be on your Globalist, Freetraitor, OBL, Pro-illegal ping list. Congratulations!

Yeah and I didn't need a pinglist, as you need to bring out your Tancreoite hive.

87 posted on 11/22/2006 5:45:23 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: mkjessup
Compared to what?

In regard to traffic accidents: One, truck and auto traffic are seperated. Two, less congestion means fewer accidents.

Economic benefits? The studies have been posted here and they are substantial, including the rural areas. If you have something to back up your claim, please post it.

What does the road have to do with auto insurance? Please explain.

88 posted on 11/22/2006 5:46:51 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Sarajevo

If this super highway hurts the unions then it will have some advantages, however, why in the world is a Spanish consortium building this monstrosity on American soil? Don't we have American construction companies that should build this - if it happens?
This whole idea smacks of a "one world order" mentality, I'm withholding approval until I learn much more about the pros and cons.


89 posted on 11/22/2006 5:47:37 AM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent!)
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To: Sarajevo
Show me some credible source that says I35 will be a toll road.

Neither your map nor your link says that.

90 posted on 11/22/2006 5:50:07 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: beezdotcom
"Do you mean that the highway would somehow stem the flow of illegals, or do you mean that the highway would thwart any attempt to stem the flow of illegals?"

Sorry about that. From the article-Border guards and customs officers would check the electronic security tags of lorries and their holds at a £1.6 million facility being built in Kansas City, before sending them on to the road network that links the US cities of Chicago, Minneapolis and Detroit with Ottawa, Winnipeg and Vancouver across the Canadian border.

IMO- we would be trusting foreign nationals to ensure the loads are legal prior to their arrival at the Port of Entry in Kansas City.

91 posted on 11/22/2006 5:50:46 AM PST by Sarajevo (Stop the Trash-Texas Con-Job!)
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To: Sarajevo
Eisenhower's Interstate System is paid for and, with the exception of maintenance funding, is free to use.

Actually, not true. A great deal of the I-system, in the Northeast and Kansas, is toll roads. 50 years of collecting tolls and these roads aren't paid for? It's still a ripoff.

Your argument should instead focus on Boston's "Big Dig". Now here is a boondoggle! And after $18 Billion, the roof collapses and kills people. We don't have enough "spare" cash to pay for a "Big Dig" from Mexico to Canada!

92 posted on 11/22/2006 5:51:46 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Dane

Just trying to show a brother some love!


93 posted on 11/22/2006 5:52:52 AM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
What does the road have to do with auto insurance? Please explain.

Ahhh don't worry about it Ben, auto insurance is just another one of those 'conspiracy theories', and you don't believe in them, now do you?

[shaking head and laughing, 'he actually ASKED the question, 'what does the ROAD have to do with AUTO INSURANCE'?!?! - holy crud, where is the Geico Gekko when you really need him? LMAO!]
94 posted on 11/22/2006 5:54:17 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Sarajevo

OK, let give the enviro-whackos a win on this one.

It's a dumb idea on several fronts, but since the dumb party is now in charge, let their dumber friends stop them.


95 posted on 11/22/2006 5:54:23 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Sarajevo; beezdotcom
The inland ports, including Kansas City, will not be used for inspecting cargo because that will be done elsewhere.

The inland ports, including Kansas City, will be used to inspect cargo bound for Mexico.

96 posted on 11/22/2006 5:59:32 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: MissouriConservative

Why would Mexicans want to drive to Duluth ?


97 posted on 11/22/2006 6:01:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: mkjessup
Instead of shaking your head and laughing, why don't you post something that backs up your claim that a new road will cause drivers not to buy auto insurance.

Please post that along with your source that shows that the road will have negative economic effects.

98 posted on 11/22/2006 6:04:02 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Sarajevo

Trillions of tax payer dollars to employ union thugs and illegals. Great plan. /sarcasm still on.


99 posted on 11/22/2006 6:07:24 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The US Military Services are THE BEST PEOPLE on the planet. God protect them.)
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To: RetiredArmy

I wonder what Ronald Reagan would have to say about this...


100 posted on 11/22/2006 6:19:25 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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