Posted on 01/18/2007 7:50:55 AM PST by jveritas
The most lasting tragedy of the Vietnam War is that it has legitimized “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”. We are seeing the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy running wild in this war on terror and sadly not only among liberals and their media but also among some conservatives who some of them are right here on this great Free Republic.
When Al Qaeda terrorists, or the terrorist regimes in Iran and Syria, or the Iraqi insurgent terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia hear the speeches of defeatism coming from liberals and their media, or unfortunately coming from some conservatives who some of them are right here on Free Republic, will they feel comforted and aided by these speeches? Of course they will be comforted, and they will be embolden to fight more and more, kill more and more, destroy more and more, because they realize that many Americans do not have the will to fight a long and hard war.
Defeatism and providing aid and comfort to the enemy was something that we expected from liberals and their media because their hate to President Bush and the Republican Party is hundred of times more than their hate to the terrorists. However it is really sad that some conservatives and some members on this great forum are doing their share in providing aid and comfort to the enemy through their defeatist attitude.
Do the defeatists want to amend the Constitution so we will have the following? Stop the war and leave if we lose more than one thousand troops, or stop the war and leave if it lasts more than one year, or stop the war and leave if it costs more than 50 billions dollars, whichever comes first. Do they want to do this?
The defeatists who argue that Iraq is not part of the war on terror but rather it is just a civil war between Sunnis and Shia are wrong and naive beyond belief. Iraq is most definitely the central and most important front in the war on terror. It is in Iraq where Al Qaeda and their local Iraqi allies decided to fight the US. It is in Iraq where the islamic terrorists from all over the world are pouring in to fight the Americans. It is in Iraq where the terrorist regimes of Iran and Syria and their local Iraqi allies want to defeat the US so they can have total control of the Middle East. Since the terrorists are all over the world, then the best way to fight them is to attract them to one place to kill them. Whether it was planned or not, Iraq turned out to be the magnet that has been attracting the terrorists from all over the world, and that is the ultimate way to fight the war on terror and to kill as many terrorists as we can.
Every defeatist who is giving aid and comfort to the enemy should ask himself or herself this question: What will happen if we leave Iraq before we achieve complete victory? The First thing that will happen is that the enemy will be embolden beyond belief and the terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia, whether they are Al Qaeda, or Iran or Syria, will be given the ultimate victory that will embolden them thousands more time then when they were emboldened when the US left Beirut after the Marines barracks terrorist attack in 1983, or when the US left Somalia in 1993 after the terrorist killed 19 troops, or when no reprisal happened against the terrorists when they attacked many American targets through out the Clinton years. If our passiveness to the past terrorist attacks emboldened them in such a way to attack us on 9/11, think about what they can do to us if we give and leave Iraq and thus handle them the ultimate victory that they have been dreaming about for decades.
The defeatists must understand that if few terrorists sitting in a cave in Afghanistan with a small budget and few volunteers were able to do the 9/11 terrorist attacks, killed 3000 Americans, and caused over one trillion dollars in economic damages, then the terrorists control of Iraq and of the whole Middle East, and its vast oil resources will allow them to conduct terrorist attacks against us that we cannot imagine even in our worst nightmares. By controlling Iraq and the Middle East the terrorists will have hundreds of billions of dollars under their control that they will use it to attack us everywhere in the world and the US and cause unimaginable death, destruction and economic losses that will make 9/11 terrorist attacks look like a picnic in comparison. They will also use the oil weapon to bring the world economy to a disaster that will be many folds worse than that of the 1929 Depression.
Fellow Free Republic members, we are fighting the most important war since WW II. We are not fighting for the Iraqis in Iraq but we are fighting for ourselves, for our freedom and for our way of life. Let us all support our President and our brave troops because they need our support now more than ever.
I've come up against them on here several times. Believe me, they're around.
Do you think my tagline is defeatist?
Define "complete victory"...substantively, objectively, and without emotion, if you please.
you're right.. polite..schlemite!!!
this is the bay state afterall...
nobody has any manners here!
Absolutely correct.
Yes to all of the above they certainly are. But failure to learn from the inevitable failures in a war is a part of defeat. The president seems to be getting this and is putting out a good plan. Better late then never.
I am just glad to see this thread get to over 100 posts without being hijacked by a Illegal Immigrant rant.
Exactly, they cover their defeatist attitude with their "Macho Talk" but at the end they call on us to leave Iraq and handle the terrorists their ultimate victory.
Everyone should read post 47 by "txrangerette", she hit the nail right in the head.
That is exactly the defeatism that I was talking about. You just gave aid and comfort to the enemy by saying the War on Terror is lost.
OK, sorry for the misunderstanding :)
No one forced you to respond to me.
I agree, any American who doesn't agree with JV in all things Iraq is a traitor.
BTTT! Bravo!
You, sir or madam, forgot the sarcasm tag.
There were certainly tactical blunders in WWII, but FDR never enabled Nazi sympathizers in the same way we do with the likes of CAIR.
Never use them...either they get it or they don't.
This is a gambit which is late arriving on the scene. I support it. I worry that the troops hands will still be tied and that will doom the effort. My initial comment was "the level of brutality necessary to subdue the Islamists is not something the old USA can muster up the courage for". Fighting house to house will generate casualties not victory. Eventually the solution will be nuclear, no amount of house to house will get Islam's attention. I expect that soon Israel will have to break out the nuclear inventory to protect itself and re-fashion the Iranian landscape. If Iran goes nuclear, these Islamic nutcases will drop one somewhere. Al-Sadr is still alive, when he is dead I will know Bush is serious and we have a chance in Iraq. He has little time. 2008 can bring devastation to the USA as the fifth column takes control of the WH.
Yes, it would be better if you did that.
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