Posted on 04/11/2007 9:43:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
SACRAMENTO — People who refuse to obtain health insurance could be tracked down by the state or a private contractor, enrolled in a plan and fined until they pay their premiums under one proposal Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's administration is considering as part of his vision for covering all Californians.
The proposal, which administration aides said was one of many the governor was considering, was presented at a meeting Tuesday with representatives from insurers, hospitals, doctors, business groups and consumer advocates.
It drew immediate criticism from critics of the central tenet of Schwarzenegger's healthcare approach, which is to require all Californians to obtain insurance.
Although the governor's office has been emphasizing the efforts it would make to help people find insurance voluntarily — including subsidies to the poor and outreach through schools, state agencies and healthcare providers — the outlines of the enforcement proposal inflamed some of those the administration has been courting for support.
Beth Capell, a lobbyist for the Service Employees International Union's California organization, said the fines might be unfairly levied on people caught without health insurance because of circumstances beyond their control. Those included people in between jobs and those starting employment in companies that did not provide healthcare for the first months of work.
"We're going to punish them if they don't go out and buy health insurance on their own — health insurance that they can't afford at the moment that they are least able to afford it," Capell said.
Other proposals, which Schwarzenegger included in the first draft of his healthcare plan, are to attach the wages of people who don't buy insurance and to increase the amount they owe in state income taxes.
Kim Belshé, secretary of the state Health and Human Services Agency, emphasized that "nothing is set in stone." ...
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We need to build a fence between California and America.
You, of course, have it exactly correctomundo!!!
When LBJ, at Harry Truman's urging, signed Medicare into "The Great Society" law, giving America's medicine men a literal "blank check" to heal the most infirm element of our society... Even the medicine men screamed at 'em that this would trigger unmanageable medical cost inflation of biblical proportions!!!
And here we are with the socialists even in the Republican Party clamoring for Socialism to solve the problem triggered by Socialized Medicine for the old folks at home!!!
What really blows me away are those with pre-existing conditions that never compare health insurance to fire insurance. You just cannot get fire insurance from the volunteer fireman/insurance agent riding up your driveway on the fire truck to douse your house!!!
I seriously doubt you can substantiate that assertion. The US Constitution is mute on the matter of regulating insurance within the states (as it should be, as to prohibit such a measure would be a usurpation of power to regulate commerce within the states). So please show us where this provision is prohibited in the California Constitution.
ever since governator ahnold got
castrated in his special election
he’s been acting weird.
Hey! Like they say in the NYC bars... "an you can still look it up!" He hasn't changed one iota! Everybody in CAGOP land just swooned so hard they simply forgot to examine the fouled-up merchandise!!!
Now 20% of CA's real estate is under the control of another layer of un-representative land-use government bureaucrazy!!!
Celebrity worship is stupid! Especially in politics!!!
yep.
and the indian tribes are increasing their control over the state.
more 15 story hotel casinos on the way.
doesn’t matter whether it’s comrade gray davis or terminator ahnold.
and don’t forget the prison union, the teachers union, and the trial lawyers.
Do you kinda git the idea I don't care for him?
yeah.
i feel the same way.
my opinion of him changed fast.
Help! It’s the insurance police!
Strangely, there are those in the industry that are clamoring for this as more efficient. They hate having to get something approved for sale in 50 different jurisdictions!
But Congress repealed another post depression act in the Clinton years that kept banks and insurance operations completely out of each other's arenas as well as investment bankers and stock brokerages. All three were separated to stop the collusion. Now it's beginning to return but nobody cares.
Who cares about any of these old laws brought on the the crash and depression? Afterall, we've got Waxman and all the Damnocrats to legislate and tax our A$$es off!!!
WaaaaaaaaaaaaaHoooooooooooooo!!! (Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove)
Would their authority for that derive from the intrastate commerce clause?
I just love it when someone tells another to give it up, and then has to ping a crowd to back them up. Whatsamatter baby? Can't stand on your own arguments?
This needs to be challenged in SCOTUS, dear god who do these people think they are??
What part of THE RECALL WAS A DISASTER FOR THIS STATE do you folks not understand? It opened the door for Arnold. And conservatives were the people who pushed the recall, and would not listen to people like myself who said it was not a good idea. There is zero way conservatives can get out from under responsibility for the recall. All we have to do is go back in FR archives and the proof will stare folks right in the face.
I’m an American in Germany....and observe the German attempt to run nation-wide healthcare. First...you are correct...they control the costs, allow few if any lawsuits, and the insurance companies can’t do anything without permission of the gov’t. It worked for a number of years...until cost caught up.
Now you have a system where the doctors can’t make a decent profit so they pack and move out of the country...or they go independent. Germany found that the rich folks in the country refused to have common healthcare...so they said if you make over $60k...you are free to do any deal you want. And adding to the episode...they said that Gov’t workers are totally indendent and get a private policy with the best hospitals and doctors at their disposal. Makes sense?
The truth is that state-run care is acceptable until it is unaffordable. Then people will dodget the episode by any means possible. You have to wonder....how did America survive 200 years without healthcare? Surely....we had something going right?
Good Grief....did you get up on the wrong side of the bed today????
If not and you are like this all the time-—
you need professional psychological help!
Now there's a way to win friends and influence people...!
I'll get back to you when my purpose is to win friends and influence people.
The Mitt Romney legacy.
pleikumud might well say the same thing in response to your post #50.
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