Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
RIGHT ON JIM R. Don’t give up Don’t accept the left liberal Guiliani just because he has an R behind his name rather than a D.
Is it possible that ALL of us have not only read your post, but fully understand what you are saying?
YOU want abortion to be a choice/right or whatever else you want to call it. You are the one promoting moral relativism and it is this attitude that results in over a million babies a year being slaughtered.
A tool for what?
Without core principles, consistently applied, all you do is continue to enact the agenda of the Left.
People like you do more damage than any Democrat.
Choice?! The choice is to murder a baby or not murder a baby. You want to argue that someone should have a choice to murder another innocent human being?
That seems to be EXACTLY what "Just sayin" is arguing.
Yeah, it’s terrible that threads like that are posted and squeeze out opportunities to post Giuliani’s win in yesterday’s straw poll at the IHOP in Ames.
The liberal world has successfully redefined the following terms:
LIBERAL TERM (REAL MEANING)
pro-choice (pro-abortion);
domestic investment (tax increases);
affirmative action (reverse discrimination);
cuts in social programs (cuts in GROWTH in social programs);
mean-spirited (fiscally responsible);
conservative (moderate):
moderate (liberal);
tax cuts for the rich (tax cuts for everyone).
On the issue of the role of government, he certainly was.
Please take my words from my post and show me where I back the choice of infanticide. I didnot present that point to you so why are presentin it to me? Stuck in a rut on your abortion debate are you?
Choiceis a founding fabric of this nation. Iguess you missed that part of freedom. The key is to work together to form choices for al that we can all benefit from.
By the way you are posting to me, I guess you don’t believe in that.
Again you talk numbers about something I already said I oppose and stated clearly that I oppose. So what is your point? It is not that particular choice I aim to protect, it is the ability to make a choice. It seems you do not understand the difference.
If you were serious about your postion you would address what I wrote to you. What you are saying about how I used CHOICE is not accurate. Maybe a re read would show you that.
Yes. It declared certain defeat for conservatives and conservatism, and counseled full and immediate surrender to the Left. What could be worse than that?
What’s your point with that link? They’ve always allowed posting threads that show how lefties think.
Just the fact you say that I want abortion to be a choice made available shows you are NOT unerstanding what I wrote.
I said no such thing and my words prove that if you take the time to read them.
*snort*
Huh!? WTH are you talking about? Do you know something that I don't know?
I'm a conservative...
I have yet to hear a good argument from the pro-life side as to why the Bible recommended lighter punishment for a man who caused another man's wife to miscarry than it did for a man who murdered the other man's wife.
You don't understand the legal differences between manslaughter or negligent homicide, and murder?
Who is attempting to "legislate your religion"? Who is attempting to revert to the days of the Hugenots and others who were tortured and martyred for their faith? (well... except liberals who will torture and murder children for not being born yet)
Using liberal slogans and catch phrases to attack phantom evils instead of real evil is a sign either of very poor thinking or no thinking at all, or is indicative of a pro-abort liberal making a very lame attempt to pose as conservative. I don't know if you are a pro abortion-killing liberal or not; it just appears that way to me.
Cordially,
That is not the choice I talked about Elyse. Read my words and you will see that. I said A choice not THAT choice.
My words in that post are clear that I do not support THAT choice but that removing all choice is is something I also oppose. READ THE POST.
Bingo!!!
This thread?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822101/posts
Sorry I missed the Ames, straw poll, or IHOP reference?
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