Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Show us where the choice to abort a baby is in the founding documents of this country.
And, yes, you are backing infanticide. If you support abortion by calling is choice or anything else, you are supporting murder of babies.
Who might “us” be? I don’t think you speak for many of us on this forum. Maybe over on WA, or the Rudybot site, that you belong to, but not here. Why don’t you go play over there? Is it too boring for you?
I joined over there but have never posted...too confusing to navigate.
Just because I wanted to keep in touch with FRiends, doesn't mean I'm a turncoat.
Now....go home and get your shoeshine box.
You know. I saw the ‘embarrass’ and completely overlooked the ‘us’.
Yes. I’d like to know who ‘us’ is as well..
As far as I am concerned (and it is explicitly stated in the Declaration of Independence) our Founding Fathers risked, and in some cases lost, everything to insure that we would enjoy, “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.” As others have pointed out, the order of these Divinely Endowed rights are written in a deliberate way, because none of them is possible without the preceding right/s.
I thought I was.
Moreover, if those deletions were the ‘banning offense,’ Mia T would have been banned AT THAT POINT.
She made one post after that point. And then she was banned.
If there was any connection to the deletions, it is this: Mia T’s and kevkrom’s requests for the deletions brought the controversial thread to the attention of the people who make the decisions to ban.
That is quite probable. But there has to be something in the thread to require a banning. You just explained though why she wouldn't necessarily have been banned at the moment the deletions took place.
kevkrom saw the posts. If there was anything significant in those posts, kevkrom would have said so.
He didn't dismiss them as empty. She thought they were significant enough to delete. Neither you, nor eye, nor kevkrom, know why Mia was banned, so none of us can know whether what was in those banned items contributed or not, or if simply her asking to remove them contributed or not.
That of course is why, when this started, my summary covered every possible thing in thread that could have led to her banning, without specifying any particular item. Your comments imply I specified that any of those things could have caused the ban, and I said no such thing.
Now to your silly statement about hypothetical argument. It makes my point.
If you have a point, you should type it into the computer, it does nobody any good if you keep it to yourself. I can't refute your argument if you don't make it. "Not helping my cause" is not an argument or a point, nor is "hang it up", "get some gumption", "you are rediculous", or "cut your losses".
I explained the difference between a hypothetical argument and a plausible argument. Of course, if we simply ignore the distinction and go with your unstated definition of "hypothetical argument", it doesn't change the fact that Mia advanced the argument, and voiced her support for it. She didn't state it to refute it, or to simply put it out there for the fun of it.
She meant to harm Fred Thompson by asserting that he was trying to get McCain elected, thereby suggesting he was a fraud and a liar, and hoping to scare people who weren't scared enough of Hillary to vote for Rudy because they were afraid of John McCain.
Unless you want to argue that Mia would post a meaningless argument for no purpose whatsoever, I don't see how you could possibly believe what you are saying now about her argument.
The hell it isn't.
I've made many FRiends since August, 1998. Howza bout you?
Drive careful.
Oreo's, I'm fixing to get my cookie jar and set it on my desk. I'm wearing myself out jumping up and down, however, it is exercise isn't it? lol
IBTZ?
A newb calling people liars and telling them they’re posting crap?
I will check it out when I get home... winding up at the office now. Yes, I think it’s possible.
Gird your loins...:)
What a crock! Folks are against extra-constitutional rights, special rights for gays.
Of course, you know that.
Yes, I admit I made a mistake and apologized for it in post #5664. Please read it. Again, my apologies.
Bookmark.
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Watching the grass grow faster than that place does cause something of a snickerfest.
Pukin Dog called it quits
Peach says "It's the pits"
Jim Robinson's having fits
quidnunc's at his end wits
MiaT keeps taking hits
pissant wants MORE threads about tits
Fair opinion says "put up your mitts"
Many think areafiftyone's a ditz
And I, after reading this thread, thought...
HOLY SHITS!!!
There is an old Greek proverb, translated thusly...
Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad...
something to ponder...
You haven’t the courage to leave.
You forgot to add Rudy’s willingness to allow OPENLY GAY people serve in our military. Just another big plus for Rudy.
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