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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Mom MD

“that’s a half dozen in the last couple of hours”

I personally commit to bringing that number in new members within 30 days.


9,281 posted on 04/25/2007 2:14:25 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

This is starting to look like a FReepathon thread! : )


9,282 posted on 04/25/2007 2:14:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I notice you didn’t address your comments...

“Each of his (Giuliani) positions is closer to those of the American voters than are yours and the Rudyphobes here.”

So the American people want abortions federally funded. So the American people want open borders. So the American people want radical “Act Up” gays influencing our society and exposing our children to this “accepted behavior”. So Americans want illegal criminals immigrants getting aid and be protected by mayors like Giuliani all over this country?

“His “Rooty”views are not extreme.”

Extremist leftists may agree, or people willing to sell out to win an election.


9,283 posted on 04/25/2007 2:15:04 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: Jim Robinson; Spiff

I just donated $20 in support of JimRob’s stand against the liberalism that is creeping into the Republican and even Conservative movement. Thank you JimRob!


9,284 posted on 04/25/2007 2:15:41 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team

She doesn’t even come close to being rudest.


9,285 posted on 04/25/2007 2:16:19 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Brad's Gramma

9,286 posted on 04/25/2007 2:17:01 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Spiff; Jim Robinson

I just committed another $20 to help Jim out with the extermination bill.....;-)


9,287 posted on 04/25/2007 2:18:04 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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9,288 posted on 04/25/2007 2:18:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: metalurgist; OMalley; Fierce Allegiance; Spiff; doodlelady; upsdriver; BykrBayb; Theresawithanh; ...
I'll donate more too

I know it's not really much, but in honor of this event in FR history, I'm in for $120 ($10 monthly). Got my credit card out right now...




I'll donate another $10.00 a month too, just to show Jim my appreciation and support.

Remember we will be raising money somewhere later , remember what JR said:

We can do all of this on FR under our charter as a conservative discussion site, but at some point there will have to be another entity involved which FR will not be part of. This will have to a registered entity ala the Swift Boat Vets that can raise funds to put together a national ad campaign to introduce the truth about Rudy to the nation.

So be planning to donate to that other entity when the time comes.
9,289 posted on 04/25/2007 2:18:46 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: BykrBayb

I think somebody said March 10th.


9,290 posted on 04/25/2007 2:18:59 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: ElkGroveDan

Zot’s goot! Zot’s wunnerful! Everybody sing — ZOT’S ENTERTAINMENT!


9,291 posted on 04/25/2007 2:19:02 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Please, tell us more about Guiliani. I have my popcorn ready. Speak loud and clear, so there can be no misunderstanding.


9,292 posted on 04/25/2007 2:19:06 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
She doesn’t even come close to being rudest.

I doubt that was from lack of trying. :-)
9,293 posted on 04/25/2007 2:19:26 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: wagglebee

Borat was screamingly funny. But one would have to have a sense of humor to appreciate it.


9,294 posted on 04/25/2007 2:19:29 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Delphinium
Great!

Thanks.

9,295 posted on 04/25/2007 2:19:59 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: BykrBayb

This thread is the opposite of a Freepathon thread. It is fueled by Hate, instead of Gratitude.


9,296 posted on 04/25/2007 2:20:25 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa

Please explain?


9,297 posted on 04/25/2007 2:21:57 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: Delphinium

bttt


9,298 posted on 04/25/2007 2:22:04 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: T'wit
♪♫♪♫♪♫
9,299 posted on 04/25/2007 2:22:05 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: RobFromGa
This thread is the opposite of a Freepathon thread. It is fueled by Hate, instead of Gratitude.

Not from my standpoint. I'm damned grateful to see the chickens come home to roost.

9,300 posted on 04/25/2007 2:22:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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