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The disarming of America (mega-barf, fascism is here)
The Toledo Blade ^ | 4-95-07 | Dan Simpson

Posted on 04/27/2007 3:47:48 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy

Now, how would one disarm the American population? First of all, federal or state laws would need to make it a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and one year in prison per weapon to possess a firearm......

The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty......

Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm. Clearly, since such sweeps could not take place all across the country at the same time. But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms. If there were, those carrying them would be subject to quick confiscation and prosecution. On the streets it would be a question of stop-and-search of anyone, even grandma with her walker, with the same penalties for "carrying."

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To: Abundy

say no more.....
So it works just like the immigration policy
They have done such a great job so far.


41 posted on 04/27/2007 4:47:57 AM PDT by colonialhk (Power and Money,the new mantra of the left!)
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To: USNBandit
I guess this guy has never heard of the 4th Amendment.

Once the 2nd is gone, so go the rest.

42 posted on 04/27/2007 4:50:51 AM PDT by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: Ajnin
As a Federal Agent there is no way in hell that I would enforce such tyranny.

Thanks Ajnin for pointing that out.

When I go to the NRA firing range in Fairfax, there are always plenty of LEOs and federal agents practicing there. Several of the NRA CCH (and other) instructors are active police officers.

It seems improbable to me that any tyrant could find enough LEOs and/or military personnel to execute such an egregiously unconstitutional program. And it seems preposterous that it would work in towns and cities with large military populations.

43 posted on 04/27/2007 4:51:57 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Your idea sounds a whole lot better to me. Shaking my head again...


44 posted on 04/27/2007 4:52:48 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: from occupied ga

The interesting thing about the liberals’ Utopian Dream is that they would be required to force it on the sane people at the point of a gun. How ironic.


45 posted on 04/27/2007 4:53:04 AM PDT by shezza (WWRD?)
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To: atomic conspiracy
How many houses, businesses, garages, barns and buildings are there in The United States?

Are you going to forcibly and thoroughly search every single one? If you don’t, the last guy with a gun is going to be the ruler. Why not take guns away from cops too?

Then we could just sit around and wait for the invaders to arrive.

Is this guy a total idiot or what?

I don’t think he’s read John Lott’s book “More Guns, Less Crime” about how guns are used defensively every day to STOP crime to prevent killings, rape, assaults, robbery, etc.

Of course, Rosie and “special celebrities” could keep their guns. Might even let Sean Penn keep his boat and shotgun. I’d feel much safer if Sean was looking out for me. S/O

46 posted on 04/27/2007 4:54:55 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: angkor
I question whether they could find enough law enforcement or military personnel willing to carry out such a program on a broad scale.

They'd find a few. A few years back some kids were shooting their dads pellet rifle in their back yard when one came through my window and nailed me just above the liver.

I called the cops, that's another story in itself, but when the boys in blue finally actually entered my house the Sgt in charge looked at my gun safe and said "I'd take everyone of these right now if I could."

I told him that's just what he'd have to do because I sure as hell wouldn't just give them to him.

The beat guys were alright about it. Once I calmed down a couple of them told me they thought he was an asshole, too.

He retired from the force soon after that and became a divorce lawyer. Go figure.

But I have a feeling the ones who would be all gung ho would see their ranks depleted pretty quickly. Line cops would lose their enthusiasm after that.

L

47 posted on 04/27/2007 4:55:14 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: sergeantdave
Although people in certain areas would meekly submit, such as shown in New Orleans,

One of the most memorable events from NOLA was the video of a 75-yeat old grandma getting into a physical struggle with the SWAT team trying to seize her little revolver. That was the beginning and the end of the NOLA seizure program.

48 posted on 04/27/2007 4:55:39 AM PDT by angkor
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To: from occupied ga

My thoughts exactly. My ‘liberal’ neighbors have knocked on my door when they thought they saw a bear in their backyard (we live next to the Dismal Swamp in SE Virginia). Turned out to be a large possum, but just illustrates that guns can be your friends esp. when you’re scared. Lock and load.


49 posted on 04/27/2007 4:55:51 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: 230FMJ
You are either totally ignorant of history, insane, evil, or a combination of the above.

You know I thought that this a$$hole didn't know about things like the Warsaw Ghetto, but upon reflection, I think he does know about it.

He just doesn't view it the same way we do - as the the evil Nazis crushing the resistance of the heroic jews. In his viewpoint, the Nazis were the good guys. They were the lawful government, and the jews were criminals resisting lawful authority. The only losses this guy would regret in his modern day gun owner as jew scenario would be losses to their beloved police.

And I think that there would be considerable losses. Gun owners would just cower in their homes waiting for the door to get kicked down. I think all sorts of ambushes and ieds would start cropping up. And the score settling that he mentions in his piece of filth editorial? I think there are people in his area who would settle his. So the jerk better pray that his nazi dream of America doesn't come true, and he can continue to vent his fear and hatred of freedom from his nice comfortable position.

50 posted on 04/27/2007 4:56:09 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Why don't you come and take my guns personally Dan? Walk right on my property, in my house and you take them. You do it, if your so sure this is the right thing to do for America.

Oh, just so you know, some things in life are worth fighting for, and I consider this one of the most important of all.

Please remember that when you walk down my driveway and bust in my door Dan, with or without an order in your hand.

51 posted on 04/27/2007 4:58:34 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: from occupied ga
Gun owners would just cower = gun owners would NOT cower
52 posted on 04/27/2007 4:59:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: shezza
they would be required to force it on the sane people at the point of a gun. How ironic

How predictable.

Visit DU, Koz, or any of the leftie blogs and you'll see the penchant they have for violence against their enemies.

53 posted on 04/27/2007 5:00:07 AM PDT by angkor
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To: from occupied ga
I'd guess that this jerk just got added to a couple of lists.

Right at the top, I would hope.

54 posted on 04/27/2007 5:00:18 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: atomic conspiracy
Danny, Boy...while we're at it, let's prosecute anyone who writes a letter to the editor of their local newspaper, disapproving of these tactics. Oh, and let's round up anybody that holds or participates in meetings or demonstrations against the government, for seizing their firearms.
55 posted on 04/27/2007 5:00:35 AM PDT by Lou L
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You said: delete the word “gun” and insert the word “liberal” I agree, when do we start rounding them up? I thought it was a worthwhile exercise so here it is:

Safegarding Society from Liberals

In the follow up to a major Al-Qaida strike where millions of Americans die, it becomes painfully clear that the internal enemies who have aided and abettet the terrorists via actions such as the unilateral surrender they have engineered in Iraq, are as guilty as the illegal immigrant terrorist cells that committed the American Attrocity, as it came to be known.

Large segments of the population become extremely motivated to clean society of the overwhelming danger posed by liberals.

Now, how would one politically cleanse the American population of Socialists and Liberals? First of all, federal or state laws would need to make it a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and one year in prison to contrribute to banned organizations, including the Democratic Party. Publications such as the NY Times, Newsweek and the Washington Post would be required to immediately cease daily publication, and leftist networks such as MSNBC and PBS would be taken off the air.

The population would then be given three months to turn in (or surrender in the case of compliant individuals)identified leftists. This would include political, social and leftist-cause leaders, and all prosteletizing homosexuals and other deviants.

It would certainly include nearly all Democratic politicians, and leading media figures.

Special panels of known and reliable conservatives drawn from organizations like local churches, the American Legion, and Operation Rescue would be formed to complete the local lists needed to implement the internment, as was done in WW2 with the Japanese.

Leftists would be able to deposit their leaders in a centrally located internment centers, heavily guarded, similar to those used to hold suspected Japanese in World War 2. The leaders and leftists would be able to visit family on special occassions in the case where the entire clan was not implicated in formenting Socialism in America.

The liberals would be required to be redeposited at the end of the allotted vistitation on pain of arrest.

When relatives submit a request for their leftist relations, federal, state, and local checks would be made to establish that they had not been convicted of a violent crime since the last time they withdrew their liberal relatives.

In the process, camp staff would take at least a quick look at each visitor to try to affirm that he was not obviously an undiscovered liberal.

It would have to be the case that the term "liberal leaning" did not include people who's primary support of liberalism was merely through volunteer efforts at organizations such as the Red Cross. Little effort would be made to spare union organizers, greenpeace style ecologists, persons supporting open borders, and first ammendmnet fetishists, however, from the charge of criminal liberal sedition and internment.

All antique or interesting socialist and liberal media collections, including the works of Marx, Mao and Clinton, would be required to be delivered to a local or regional museum, also to be under strict 24-hour-a-day guard. There they would be on display, if the owner desired, as part of an interesting exhibit of antique American propaganda, as family heirlooms from proud wars past or as part of collections.

Rare book dealers could continue their work, selling unique publications. They would be required to maintain very tight inventories. Any liberal publication sold would be delivered immediately by the dealer to the nearest limited circulation library or the museum, not to the buyer.

The cleansing process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All liberals would be seized. Those harboring liberals found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each person hidden from required internment.

Clearly, since such sweeps could not take place all across the country at the same time. But fairly quickly there would begin to be socialist-swept, liberal-free areas where there should be no remaining leftists. If pockets popped up, those hiding them would be subject to quick arrest and detainment.

On the streets it would be a question of stop-and-question anyone, even grandma with her walker, with the same penalties for "holding banned liberal beliefs"

The "free speech lobby" would no doubt try to head off in the courts the new laws and the actions to implement them. They might succeed in doing so, although the new approach would undoubtedly prompt new, vigorous debate on the subject. In any case, some jurisdictions would undoubtedly take the opportunity of the chronic slowness of the courts to begin implementing the new approach.

America's long land and sea borders present another kind of problem. It is easy to imagine continued attempts to smuggle leftists in from Mexico, along with banned types such as illegal aliens, and perhaps in more remote parts of the Canadian border area, to funnel socialists into the United States.

That would constitute a problem for American immigration authorities and the U.S. Coast Guard, but not an insurmountable one over time.

There could conceivably also be a rash of resistance when the internments began. Given the general nature of liberals and the fact that they have a known obsessive fear of guns and weapons, that seems a lesser sort of issue.

That is my idea of how it could be done. The desire to do so on the part of the American people is another question altogether, but one clearly raised again by the ongoing terrorist killings effecting our nation.

Wonder if the Toronto Blade would print THIS as a 'thought provoking piece'. I think not

56 posted on 04/27/2007 5:04:51 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: atomic conspiracy

Leftists hate guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. They want guns in the hands of criminals.
Why?
They hate private property.
They are obsessed with the fact that some people have more than others.
They want the “underclass” to rise up and take whatever they want. Letting the “underclass” keep their guns while taking them from the White Christians who have worked hard, legally, all their lives to accumulate some money and property, is what liberals want.


57 posted on 04/27/2007 5:04:52 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism = leftism = fascism = nazism)
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To: atomic conspiracy
To: Dan Simpson
c/o: The Toledo Blade

re: Firearm Confiscation

Dear Dan,

regards,
Condor
US of A


ps:

58 posted on 04/27/2007 5:05:33 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: from occupied ga
A mistake a lot of folks make is thinking that MA ends somewhere around RT.128. There's more too it than one housefrau denying her kid a toy gun.

I was born and started school in Boston, graduated HS in Haverhill (the town too tough to die) and I'd say a great majority of the guys I grew up with are Dems, either from expediency, actual belief or they simply inherited their parents party, but I'd also say that a solid majority of the ones I've kept in touch with over the years are gun owners.

59 posted on 04/27/2007 5:06:26 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: atomic conspiracy
I own 5 guns. Come and take them, Dan.

The author seriously misunderestimates the will of the American Redneck....

60 posted on 04/27/2007 5:09:08 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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