if that's the best you can do John, maybe you oughta save yourself some money and stand down now...
Posted on 05/10/2007 5:09:11 PM PDT by enough_idiocy
Republican presidential candidate John McCain (news, bio, voting record) said Thursday he believes President Bush's low approval ratings are hurting the GOP yet won't affect the party's 2008 nominee.
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Guess what Sen. McCain, the Dems' ratings are also in the tank. Why doesn't that hurt them? Why isn't that a problem of them? Why doesn't that reflect how they are trying to manage the war in Iraq?
Instead of beating up on Bush and the GOP, he should be noting how the opposition party barely has better ratings, how they haven't kept their word on their campaign promises, etc. Instead, he accepts the MSM mem, rolls over, and hopes for the best. Get up and fight John.
McCain's mental instability may not help either!
You have it exactly right - The MSM live in a world of lies and spin....and since 05 the RNC/WH have both decided to not call them on it...(nor the DEMs)...They have sat back and allowed false premise after false premise to be established...
The GOP lost in 06 because they didn't attack the DEMs...instead they listened to the MSM and attack ourselves and our CINC....Foolishness.
The main thing that has hurt the GOP is not being conservative enough when it had control of Congress, caving in to the Demagogue Party, making deals with Kennedy and other toads. McCain-Feingold is an excellent example of “not conservative”, since it violates the First Amendment.
Flash - McCain’s idiocy is harming the POTUS and GOP
McCain has done as much bad for the party as Bush has done good!
Exactly! While the democrats team up and bash republicans and Bush, the republicans have been doing nothing but bashing other republicans.
How ironic.
Any approval ratings John McCain gets only helps the democrats.
“The GOP lost in 06 because they didn’t attack the DEMs...instead they listened to the MSM and attack ourselves and our CINC....Foolishness” 100% correct.
1. They allowed the “culture of corruption” to be painted, while Murtha, Jefferson, Feinstein, Mollyhan, Menedez, and others sat back and coasted.
2. They got snowballed by the Foley October surprise, while a Democrat in South Dakota and NY got caught doing worse at the same time, let alone the Studds precedent.
3. They let the “Bush lied” story go on for 3 years despite similar “lies” told by the current leaders of the Democrat party.
It’s like watching a child get beat up in a schoolyard, you just wish he’d at least TRY to fight back.
McCain, pull your head out of your ass. If you and the other backstabbers in the Senate and house had spent more time supporting Cheney and Bush as they gave speeches all last year in support of the WOT, instead of cutting him off at the knees in public, the 2006 election and the apporoval ratings would have been different. But know, you wanted to suck up on Chris Matthews and other vile retards to get face time and reinforce your “maverick” status.
It’s symbolic of the WOT/Iraq - Bush/Repubs are fighting two enemies at once - the enemy + the home front.
The party is fighting RINOs and MSM lapdogs while fighting the dems. You can’t win against a strong opponent when you’re also fighting yourself.
Bush is fighting Al Qeada, while the dems are trying to tie his hands.
Winning this thing would be a huge victory, truly overcoming the odds.
Granted the GOP is far from perfect...nonetheless, neither are the Dems. The longer we focus on and broadcast our own imperfections, while being silent against the far more egregious errors of our opponents, the greater the democrat majority grows in this country.
There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging the obvious mistakes, etc.; however, at least do so while reminding the country of who is the lesser of evil of the two available choices.
McCain being the worst offender.
The DC Repubs keep shooting themselves in the foot, most recently the man who enforced “No aid if condoms are distributed” who was using the DC madam’s services.
First things first, we need to clean our own house, and we need to point out the Feinstien et al corruption constantly.
That is true as far as it goes. However the GOPs concern for approval ratings has hurt the GOP, the President and the country to an even larger extent. That is the bigger picture.
if that's the best you can do John, maybe you oughta save yourself some money and stand down now...
Well at least they should be fighting.
Problem is, we clean out our house, while they keep theirs a mess - Delay didn’t run again, while Jefferson got relected. What’s the other guy who recently stepped down from a position (last name starts with an R) for being under investigation, while Jefferson remains on a committee.
The problem isn’t cleaning our house, we seem to be doing that. The problem is, no one is cleaning theirs and the Repubs are allowing the MSM/DNC to paint a picture that it’s only the repubs with problems.
The President is *hardly* blameless in this.
LOL
See, there you go again...
Seriously though, of course the repubs and Bush deserve criticism, the problem is a) we beat up on ourselves, while not beating up on them nearly enough and b), since they sweep everything under the rug about them and don’t ever stab one another in the back like we do, we fighting, and losing, a two fronted war.
If the Presidents poll numbers are hurting the Congress , may I ask what the Congress’s poll numbers are.
What is hurting the GOP is a lack of scrotum.
George W. Bush becomes President in actual elections.
Being honest?
“Seriously though, of course the repubs and Bush deserve criticism, the problem is a) we beat up on ourselves, while not beating up on them nearly enough and b), since they sweep everything under the rug about them and don’t ever stab one another in the back like we do, we fighting, and losing, a two fronted war.”
I’m not sure I consider myself part of any group led by a pro-amnesty nanny-stater anymore. I’m a conservative and increasingly not a Republican. Oh, and that’s not MY fault, but that of the GOP. Not responding to MSM attacks is ALSO the fault of the GOP. If we attack our own, it's because we have principles worth defending and don't tolerate garbage.
"FREE THE ALBANIAN ROOFERS"
bush has probably elected a democrap president in 2008.
Another McCain duh moment, the party has no core values therefore nothing to flight for or with.
It’s clear he wants to go beyond that and import enough Democrat voters to make sure the Republican Party will not hold a majority for the next 40 years at least.
What did the Republican party ever do to him to deserve such a fate?
McCain is one of the reasons for the state of the current GOP.
Granted the PR staff of the WH has been inept since 05....But the WH wasn't up for reeleciton in 06....and it was the GOP Congress that ran away from standing up for this WOT...and it was the GOP congress that refused to stand up and take the fight to the DEMs on issue afer issue in 06....
Yes, the WH make some foolish decisions (Immigration reform how they went about it being the major one)....but that shouldn't have been the focus of the GOP last election. It should have been about defeating the DEMs.....We are at war adn we allowed the pathetic ilk of the DEM leadership now to be in charge of Congress during a time of war...Shameful.
McQueeg at his best. I guess he has forgotton all the appearances he made on the Sunday morning talk shows back stabbing the president.
He’s not my CINC, but the President. I take no orders from him. Be careful in your use of terminology like “Commander in Chief”. The President is formally the NCA, but he is NOT the Commander in Chief of the United States.
“But the WH wasn’t up for reeleciton in 06....and it was the GOP Congress that ran away from standing up for this WOT...and it was the GOP congress that refused to stand up and take the fight to the DEMs on issue afer issue in 06....”
Ordinarily, the WH would do what it could to keep Congress from being lost. In this case, I think they WANTED Congress lost. Either that, or Rove is not quite as bright as some think.
“Yes, the WH make some foolish decisions (Immigration reform how they went about it being the major one)”
That they went about it at ALL and have ignored the problem for 6 YEARS is a major one. Especially because of the war. It shows just where their priorities lie - and it is NOT with defense of the country.
“We are at war adn we allowed the pathetic ilk of the DEM leadership now to be in charge of Congress during a time of war...Shameful.”
We didn’t allow it. To paraphrase Tony Snow... “now we have a Congress we can work with”. Amnesty was always the priority and hang the war. If the war was a priority, we’d have real border security and a ban on Muslim immigration. What we have are little old ladies roughed up at airports and the President encouraging Muslim immigration.
I find that shameful.
I find his push for Mel Martinez to be this invented “General Chair” shameful.
When we have our own problems, it makes it difficult to point ot Feinstein and Jefferson and Murtha, firstly the media always will use the Dem talking points, secondly, when a Republican goes out to point out Dhimmicrat misdeeds, the media always points to counter balancing Republican behaviour.
So they do not even try to go out and fight anymore, and what happens then is the field is ceeded to the Dhims, in that you are very very correct.
When VP Cheney goes onto Fox and basically says the Republican Party an go err “abuse” themselves, what is that saying?
NOT YET!!! 8^)
John who?
“When we have our own problems, it makes it difficult to point ot Feinstein” then how are they able to point at us? Every party has glass windows. That hasn’t stopped the DNC from bashing our windows in.
“the media always will use the Dem talking points” true.
Our loss of the media and universities is the most devastating structural problem we face. The communist agenda, as posted here a thousand times (from 1964) is alive and well.
“When VP Cheney goes onto Fox and basically says the Republican Party an go err “abuse” themselves, what is that saying” HUH? Don’t understand the referrence.
agree.
i’m very disappointed.
having lived through the vietnam nightmare, and the destruction of the war at home, i expected a lot from bush.
i expected a decisive war on terror that would set the stage for a conservative majority for years, just as the democraps controlled the u.s. government since fdr.
So be it....live in your own misery...
As usual, McCainiac has it backwards. The GOP has hurt the President’s approval ratings through their spineless refusal to take anything like a leadership position even though he nearly single-handedly gave it to them. Many of them would not be in congress today if not for George Bush.
Their utter collapse under the stern looks of the treasonous media and the left in general made it nearly impossible for this Great President to capitalize on the power sweep that put us in the White House, captured the congress and gained us one net conservative vote on the Supreme Court.
Still, he has delivered the most vibrant economy in the history of earth and freed 50 million people from brutal tyranny, all while being pelted with rocks and fruit at every turn from the traitors amongst us.
For these useless wimps to now claim harm from Bush when all they have done was undermine him, is, unfortunately, in character.
Not another damn dime. Period.
This is a typical dismissal from someone who has no argument.
In short, an ad hom. Figures as much.
The President is a big-government at-best-moderate Republican with more an interest in whatever drives him to leave our defenses down at home than in fighting the war. Oh, we’ll be funding and arming Fatah again, so I’ll just point out that the Administration doesn’t understand the “WOT” anymore than the Democrats do.
Oh, and whatever happened to “NO NATION BUILDING?” Seems that campaign promise was left in the dust?
We all expected too much. We expected things to change. Too many things haven’t.
Why is Sandy Berger a free man?
What has been accomplished in total in this WOT in the last 6 years is utterly amazing. Since Sept 11th, 2001 our enemies have suffered one strategic defeat after another...we have not suffered one (hell you'd be hard pressed to find a handful of actual engagements we have lost)....Changing the world is a difficult process....Which is exactly what we are doing.
Changing the ME is the only true long term solution to the WOT.....We have brought the value of self-worth and the notion of freedoms to the ME for the first time in centuries.....We have killed over 3/4+ of AQ original leadership and ditto that % for their less effective replacements...
The reality is AQ and its mimics are the ones who can't fight an effective two-front or multi-front war....We most certainly can and are....
The only arena where we are losing is the PR battle. Which without question is important....And yes this most certainly needs to be addressed....But the notion that you are disappointed is foolish when one looks at the whole.
Um, the WORLD changed on Sept 11th, 2001. Unfortunately for some like you, it didn't.
Your foolish notion that nothing is being done on our borders is laughable. If AQ could simply walk across our boarders and hit us....they would have!...They haven't because they can't....and because we have a CINC who is taking the fight to them.
The dirty secret is AQ and its mimics are the one's who can't fight a two-front (or multi-front) war....We most certainly can...and continue to do so.
Bringing the values of self-worth and freedoms are our (America's) biggest allies in this WOT. That you can't see that shows it is YOU that has no clue about this war....nor has your as$ ever been over in the box (be that Iraq or Stan).
VP Cheney was on Fox thisevening and he mentioned that the war in iraq was bigger than the Republican party and that he and GWB were going to do what they had to do.
He was being interviewed by Bret Bair (sp)in Tikrit.
Tell that to the President. Reference “border security” while you’re at it.
“Your foolish notion that nothing is being done on our borders is laughable.”
If only.
“If AQ could simply walk across our boarders and hit us....they would have!.”
Tell that to the people who found “Arab Road”.
“Bringing the values of self-worth and freedoms are our (America’s) biggest allies in this WOT. “
You don’t do that by allowing constitutions that elevate an anti-self-worth and anti-freedom ideology as the “highest law” as this Administration and State have done.
You don’t rebuild the enemy until AFTER he has been defeated.
“That you can’t see that shows it is YOU that has no clue about this war....nor has your as$ ever been over in the box (be that Iraq or Stan)”
No, it hasn’t. Your point? I clearly understand the enemy’s motivations better than you do. I’ve noticed the NDU is starting to publish on the actual enemy... all while the President continues praising them. Oh, and he’ll celebrate Eid in the WH again this year. JUST LIKE HE CELEBRATED CINCO DE MAYO (a holiday that has absolutely nothing to do with America).
Of course, I’m talking to a man who thinks the President is the Commander-in-Chief of the entire country....
You confuse “tactical” and “strategic”. What else are you confused about?
“Changing the world is a difficult process....Which is exactly what we are doing.”
“Changing the world” is not a conservative mission nor is it a power granted the Federal government.
That is a culture that is not going to be changed over night (the reality is freedoms are spreading throughout Iraq and Stan)...
And, hmm, we kept blacks as slaves and didn't allow women to vote for how many years?? (yeah, you're right, the French should have never supported us)..
You don’t rebuild the enemy until AFTER he has been defeated.
We're not at war with the peoples of Iraq or Stan. But with an enemy that hides and lives among them.....Thankfully you are back state side while the adults are in charge down range...
You don't have a clue to what you are talking about. But keep up with the "you're a true conservative bs"...It fits you.
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