Posted on 05/10/2007 8:37:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
It is one of the enduring features of the modern Republican Party: Since the rise of Ronald Reagan and the empowerment of the social conservatives, the party has formally stood in firm opposition to a constitutional right to abortion and the Supreme Court decision that established it.
Yes, there were always Republicans who broke with party orthodoxy on the issue, from New England moderates like Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine to pragmatists like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger of California. But the partys platform, if anything, grew less pliant on abortion over the years. And the party invariably nominated presidential candidates who embraced, rather than challenged, the full pro life position. (Just as the Democrats did, on the pro choice side.)
Now, with Rudolph W. Giuliani one of the front-runners for the Republican nomination, the question inevitably arises: Is the party moving on this issue, ready for more flexibility? Can a supporter of abortion rights, even one with caveats and qualifications, make it to the top of the Republican Party in 2008?
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In the past, such a position brought a quick and determined push back from the partys social conservatives. Candidates lacking strong anti-abortion credentials, in fact, rarely made it to the top tier. Party moderates regularly tried over the years to soften the Republican platform, and were just as regularly beaten back.
The Republican abortion plank endured: The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed, and the party is committed to supporting the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.
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Excellent point. Where was she in '92, when the Dems refused to allow pro-life Governor Casey to even speak at their convention.
“Perhaps, Guiliani should try to recruit Fred or Duncan as a running mate. To offset his liberal morals.”
I still wouldn’t vote for him! A token V.P. slot doesn’t cover up the fact that Guilianni favors abortions. They could resurrect Reagan to run with him and I still wouldn’t vote for him! No way, no how, not ever! Even if it means Hillary would win. The GOP in that case would get exactly what they deserve and exactly what we keep warning them about.
No, it’s not acceptable.
I have an idea:
What say we legalize Post Birth Abortion (PBA). We hurry up and abort all the liberals. Then we can outlaw all abortion with out any trouble.
Just an idea and I aint the first:
I think this is the greatest cartoon in the history of cartoons.
“The next question would be, can the GOP survive Giuliani?”
I believe the Media would redefine Conservatism in the wake of a Republican/Giuliani ticket. The end result would not be in favor of true Conservatism and the GOP, thus relegating Conservatism to the lesser party status, or as we might as well state...the abyss.
I do not wear signs declaring the end of the World is near. Just don’t trust the leadership of the GOP that is in support of Moderate/Leftist direction under the assumption that is what will win in ‘08. I think they are dead wrong and a Conservative agenda is the real winning ticket.
“Can the G.O.P. Accept Giulianis Abortion Stance?”
Rick Santorum will be sprinkling rock salt where hell froze over first!
Why would you think eight years of a liberal Republican and/or another Democrat would be better than four years of a liberal Democrat? It makes no sense, especially given that such a Presidency would result in the Republican party losing seats in Congress.
It's better that a liberal Republican push through liberal legislation than Hillary? It's better to have eight years of a liberal in office than four of Hillary with a chance to elect a conservative? It's better to have a liberal Republican in the White House that will guarantee Republicans lose seats in Congress?
I would write in Marx before voting for Rudie. Got to vote for the lesser of evils. This evil is dead so is automatically the lesser. Don’t like the thought. Don’t make me do it!
The graph is my political position. I can make one for Rudy if you like.
The G.O.P. of late has been way too pro Rino, so they might accept his stance on abortion.
Can the GOP survive Giuliani?
Absolutely no way. This next election imo is a turning point for America. Conservatives like myself are fed up with rino's and when they are like Rudy and not much different then a Democrat what is the point, a lesser of two evils is still evil. I will not be a part of voting for that.
Rudy is a liberal and the G.O.P. was not a liberal party when it flourished, it will kill it if it kisses up to Rudy.
“I think this is the greatest cartoon in the history of cartoons.”
One of my favorites ever.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no. No. And no.
It’s better to have eight years of a liberal in office than four of Hillary with a chance to elect a conservative?
Huh?
No, if anything this party is closer than it ever has been in years of reaching one of it's goals, overturning Roe vs. Wade. My preference is the Human Life Amendment, but overturning Roe vs. Wade would be a huge step.
Can a supporter of abortion rights, even one with caveats and qualifications, make it to the top of the Republican Party in 2008?"
No. I will fight as hard as I can to ensure this does not happen.
"Maybe, some analysts suggest, Republicans are willing to bend on abortion to get a nominee Mr. Giuliani who is appealing on other grounds, like fighting terrorism."
They fail to explain how he is appealing on terror. Just because he got rid of the squeegee men, kicked Arafat out of a concert, and did a good job on 9/11, really doesn't mean much. He is not near as versed on foreign policy as say Duncan Hunter.
This is a critical election. We need a conservative, not a liberal.
Amen.
If Ghouliani is elected, it guarantees a conservative won’t be in the White House for eight years. If Hillary is elected, there is a chance a conservative could be in the White House in four years.
It depends who votes in the primaries. Alot of conservatives have checked out of politics. There have been a few rinos elected for governors lately.
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