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Hannity asks Giuliani about amnesty [he's for it]
FOX News ^ | May 20, 2007 | Sean Hannity/Rudy Giuliani

Posted on 05/21/2007 7:57:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

“No liberal or RINO makes it through. Our plan is the Reagan plan. Run a conservative against the socialist democrats: We win, they lose.”

Why is it like pulling teeth to get enough people to understand this?


61 posted on 05/21/2007 8:38:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: isthisnickcool

“If for some odd reason people wanted to hear you tell the story and would pay you to tell it would you take the money and tell the story? Would you even make it in to a business? Giuliani would.”

Rudy DID!!


62 posted on 05/21/2007 8:43:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Yeah, that’s how I read Rudy’s statement as well. Sigh. I have been supporting Giuliani, but I afraid I have to turn my back on him at this point. My issues are the war on Islam and fiscal policy, but you can’t say you will aggressively prosecute the war, and leave the borders wide open, just like you can’t say you will cut taxes, when you’re opening up the entitlement cookie jar to 50 million freeloaders who don’t deserve it.

His solution won't work anyway. Get the people to come forward? By what, giving them de facto citizenship, that’s you’re solution for getting them to come forward to be identified? How about enforcing the law, has anyone tried that yet?

63 posted on 05/21/2007 8:44:13 PM PDT by Big E
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To: Jim Robinson
In other words, he's for amnesty.

He's also for databases tracking "tamper proof" means of ID. Of course, a database capable of tracking 20 million people is easily capable of tracking 300 million too. Then one has to wonder just what will constitute "tamper proof" when the ID fraud industry in Mexico gets fully cranking. 'Gosh, we have no choice but to make this foolproof. We can't be too careful. Besides, these aren't American citizens...'

But if they don't have a chip, how do we know they haven't entered illegally? How do we know that this job applicant is a citizen or is an illegal with a fake ID who didn't go back home to apply for legal entry and get his chip? Goodness, those power outages on our "virtual fence" just made an oopsie an a whole buncha illegals rushed in! How do we know that they're temporary workers or American citizens? Everybody without an ID is a citizen?

Your chip is ready and waiting, a number for your name.

64 posted on 05/21/2007 8:46:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Jim Robinson

I like your idea anything can do to help?


65 posted on 05/21/2007 8:46:52 PM PDT by Plains Drifter (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Names, we know who the “socialists democrats” are, who da good guys?


67 posted on 05/21/2007 8:47:27 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: F15Eagle

Just from a purely crass political perspective, I ask this question “How can McCain fight the War on Terror when he just so politically stupid?”

That said, whoever doesn’t lineup against this Shamesty doesn’t make the cut. If McCain doesn’t do a Mea Culpa ASAP then he is done. That goes for everyone running.


68 posted on 05/21/2007 8:50:27 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: jackieaxe

*Ron Paul is against amnesty*

He is also against the War on Terror.


69 posted on 05/21/2007 8:54:15 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t trust any of the “big 3” on immigration. There are just too many flip flops and backtracks among them.

I just don't trust any of the big three. Their defining moment for me is when they ran shrieking a way like little school girls from Ann Coulter's rehab joke.

Fred Thompson's reply to Michael Moore(on) last week makes me think he's the best and the boldest. Also I think he's the only one of any of the ten running who has an actual job. Sure it's acting but that's way, way more of a job then anyone in D.C has. And what does Rudy and Romney do anyway? They're like both unemployed politicians at the moment. Their only job is to run for POTUS.

70 posted on 05/21/2007 8:58:20 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (I wish the world was a newt!)
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To: Reaganesque

“He just doesn’t do straight answers, does he?”

He ALMOST DID, HERE, caught himself just in time.....”I was part of the committee that — “.....I saw this live and was disappointed but not surprised he didn’t say whatever the rest of that sentence was going to be......of course it went over Hannity’s head....

“I was part of the committee that — “ whoops! rudeeeee close call!

GIULIANI: Sure. I’m comfortable with that. I think that it can’t be a litmus test. First of all, I don’t think there should be any litmus test for judges. I’m a lawyer. I’ve practiced in court. I’ve argued in the Supreme Court, one time, not as often as my friend, Ted Olson, but I got to argue once in the Supreme Court. It was one of the highlights of my career.

I’ve argued in many of the appellate courts all throughout the country and different state courts. You can’t have litmus tests. It’s a false thing. I’ll tell you why. A judge has to be open to listen to the facts of the case.

And some little thing could throw it off. You think you’re going to decide one way and now you hear a fact and it’s a really important one and it changes your decision-making.

What you need to know about a judge — and I would know how to do this from my experience of appointing lots of judges, hiring many, many lawyers, and watching the Reagan judges get appointed.

long pregnant silence at the hyphen:
I was part of the committee that — I was dealing with the U.S. attorneys and the U.S. marshals, but I watched most of those appointments. You select people on general approach and general philosophy.

Do they seek the meaning of the Constitution or are they going to try to legislate it? Do they understand the difference between being an Article III judge and a legislator?

If you don’t understand that difference, there’s more at stake than just any one case. Our liberty is at stake. Our democracy is at stake. If judges start legislating, you and I have no control over that. We don’t get to vote for them. We don’t get to vote for them every two years...


72 posted on 05/21/2007 9:01:08 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Jim Robinson
In other words, he's for amnesty.

In other words, he is done. At least these losers are making it easier for us.

73 posted on 05/21/2007 9:02:57 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation)
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To: Jim Robinson

And yet Hannity still smooches his butt.

Sean, your whole “man of the people” routine is just so much crap.


74 posted on 05/21/2007 9:08:27 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Jim Robinson
"In other words, he's for amnesty."

Yup and Hanity is carrying his water. Too bad I liked Hanity.

75 posted on 05/21/2007 9:08:28 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: All

Well neverhillorat, I don’t think you should force Jim into saying, but we do know this:

We know Jim’s favorite is Fred or Hunter. And we know that Rudy is a definite no. In a previous post, Jim said McCain and Romney are barely tolerable.

But why don’t we test the mood of the Freepers here? Can we do a daily vote them off the island poll? We can take Fred and Hunter as givens, and we can eliminate Rudy (and I dare say McCain — not my call) as a given and go from there.

P.S. Full disclosure, I do lean towards Mitt.


76 posted on 05/21/2007 9:16:02 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: upsdriver

Do I have what you are saying right, You want to kill the illegals?

Since there are an estimated 11 million illegals, and Hitler killed 6 million Jews, does not that make your plan twice as bad as his master race plan?

You need to take it back to the drawing board.

....Bob


77 posted on 05/21/2007 9:22:58 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
BUILD THE DARN FENCE. Then we’ll talk.

That is my position exactly. Get control of the border first, then we can talk about the rest. I could handle trading amnesty for a education/skills based legal immigration policy. But until the border is controlled, what we do about the rest doesn't matter.
78 posted on 05/21/2007 9:25:57 PM PDT by goldfinch (American citizens, just paying the taxes illegals don't have to pay.)
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To: Lokibob

1. Enforce the Borders. Stop them from coming in.
2. Keep the ones here still illegal. Don’t legitimatize them. These are never eligible for citizenship and their employers will be heavily fined. The only thing will give them is a free ride home whenever they are caught.
3. Give only temporary worker permits (like we do for Seasonal harvesting) to those who are NOT currently in our country. Temporary workers are not eligible for citizenship either.
4. No credit is give towards citizenship for being here illegal or through the guest worker program. We institue different criteria for citizenship to bring only those with high end job skills to this country.


79 posted on 05/21/2007 9:34:02 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Jim Robinson

“~~big snip~~”

Big snip, clear acceptance! Bye bye Rudy!!!


80 posted on 05/21/2007 9:37:52 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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