Posted on 06/06/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by John Cena
Is Fred Thompson No. 2? Well, now we have the second poll released just today that says "yes."
After the jump, we reproduce a memo just sent out by McLaughlin & Associates (now-confirmed pollsters for the Thompson campaign — though this poll was not done for the campaign). It breaks down as follows (change since the last time the poll was taken in April in parentheses):
Rudy Giuliani: 24% (-4) Fred Thompson: 18% (+5) John McCain: 17% (+1) Mitt Romney: 7% (-1)
UPDATE: A survey just released by Pew also shows Mr. Thompson second to Mr. Giuliani in how many voters say there's a "good chance" or "some chance" that they'd vote for either candidate — Messrs. Giuliani and Thompson are actually tied on the "good chance" number. More below...
(Excerpt) Read more at latestpolitics.com ...
Time will tell.
>> With Thompson apparently coming out as pro choice as per last night’s interview <<
What the hell are you talking about???
Ah yes, the home phone poll...I have yet to see a MSM piece on how the pollsters are dealing with people like me and my two voting age sons who use cell phones and internet phones that are not listed.
Whatever it is you're smokin', it ain't a cigarette....
>> 4.Some consider Pro-Choice to mean being against Roe Vs Wade, and letting the issue be decided by the States. (Federalist) <<
That’s a definition of Pro-Choice I have never before heard in my life!
Fred had better keep the girl away from any real info... she just spies for the dims!
LLS
It was a BS statement!
LLS
>> 2.Some consider Pro-Life to mean being against Roe Vs Wade, and letting the issue be decided by the States. (Federalist) <<
And this definition, while not quite insane, is pretty strange. It’s only true inasmuch as some politicans have opposed Roe-v-Wade on the basis that it’s anti-Democratic, allowing themselves to align with pro-lifers by taking pro-life positions on federal legislation without getting labelled “anti-choice.” Kay Bailey Hutchinson comes to mind first. But even so, it’s merely a matter of some peope perceiving pro-choice moderates who happen to be federalists as pro-life.
The fact that you and your sons have cell phones and VOI, and thus wouldn't be polled, doesn't matter (sorry to burst your bubble). Statistically speaking, pollsters call a few hundred people, possibly at most a couple of thousand, and use these responses to statistically approximate (with MoE depending on sampling size) for the much larger population from which the respondants were sampled. In a country our size, the likelihood of any one person being randomly chosen for participation in a poll is miniscule anywise, so you are practically as likely not to be polled, even if you had a traditional landline - and this wouldn't affect the validity of the poll in the least. The math still works out the same, regardless of whether any one member of the population is sampled.
That’s what people said three months ago.
No, I think it’s as much full of crap as your post. “Pro-life” has never meant being satisfied with states permitting abortion, and pro-choice has never meant being in favor of state prohibitions of abortion. #24 is the most tortured abuse of language I have ever read on Free Republic, and your post is an outright falsehood.
If you don’t supply any statement of Fred’s to back up your assertion that Fred just came out “pro-choice,” I will have to conclude you are a liar.
You, sir, are a liar - I checked the transcript. Fred never said he was pro-choice last night. Your post 24 nonsense is CYA material.
Take your propaganda somewhere else.
And since then, Guiliani's flatlined and lost his air of invincibility. Three months from now, he might very well be an asterisk compared to the Romney/Thompson matchup.
Isn’t going to happen. He’s raising money like crazy. He’s still the #1 candidate, regardless of what Freepers think. Fred might change that. But he has to be on stage to change anything.
LIAR
Guiliani has pretty much peaked in his support. He will not benefit much as other candidates drop out -- that support will go mostly to his biggest rivals, which are probably going to be Romney and Thompson. If one of those two pulls well ahead of the other, he immediately becomes the favorite to win.
And, as for Thompson, he's managed to change quite a bit of this race without having gotten on that stage yet.
Now, how does John McCain get a label like “rhino”, while Fred Thompson, same legislative support, same congress of Bill Frist, get anointed a “real” conservative?
RReagan spent twenty years clawing and championing his way to a leadership position to defeat communism. Fred Thompson builds an unprofessional website—and it’s bad—in one month and the guy can’t answer what his most important issue is as President (2:04 minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr6SnS2YjDA )
Fred sounds unprepared and sloppy on Hannity and other shows. His website looks unprepared and sloppy. The next President has a lot of work to do to stop the demobilization of the United States. And you want others to vote for Fred Thompson to mobilize the country to defeat terrorism?
“Honor, Duty, Country?”
By William F. Buckley Jr.
http://author.nationalreview.com/latest/?q=MjE0Ng==
You being a history writer, I cannot believe you don't recognize history in the making. He is a major player without entering yet. And now that he is raising money...
I don't know how he could be playing this any better IMHO.
Fred - 25.6
Rooty - 24.3
Romney - 22.2
McInsane - 15.3
Rooty (2007 high was 42) and McInsane (2007 high was 50) are losing ground. Romney (2007 high was 24) is working on a bit of a surge and hanging in there, Fred (he's now at his 2007 high) is showing constant strength.
These numbers tend to be more realistic than polls because people are betting real money on them, not talking to pollsters.
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