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Was Amnesty Bill a Strategery? - VANITY
FR ^ | 6/9/06 | jebeier

Posted on 06/08/2007 12:18:29 PM PDT by jebeier

Perhaps this whole Amnesty business is a sublime and supremely cunning strategery.

Now, I know you all may want to dismiss the possibility out of hand, but bear with me for a moment...

By promoting this bill, in one fell swoop President Bush has managed to:

a) Get almost the entire Democrat caucus in the Senate to come out in favor of Amnesty, which is very unpopular,
b) Forever link his old arch-nemesis, John McCain, to this very unpopular bill,
c) Get somewhere close to 80% of Americans to oppose Ted Kennedy, and
d) Kill the possibility of comprehensive immigration reform for the forseeable future.

And all it has cost him is a few points in the public opinion polls, which is irrelevant because he will never run for office again.

Now the Republican field (except John McCain) can run against the President of their own party in 2008 by opposing him on this issue. The 800 pound Iraqi gorrilla has been replaced by a 1600 pound illegal immigration gorilla. And the vast majority of Republicans (besides John McCain) are in a much better position to debate on this issue.

Sarkozy just won in France by running against Chirac, who was the head of his own party. Perhaps the White House has taken that lesson to heart.

If it is strategery, it is exceptionally subtle and devious, and would be a masterpiece. But they really couldn't possibly be that clever, could they?

Or could they? One thing we know about President Bush is that he has a long memory and likes to get even with his enemies. Look at the seven Republican Senators who are going to come out on the down side of this deal:

Graham (R-SC)- Led efforts to extend habeus corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees. Member of Gang of 14

Hagel (R-NE) - Led charges against Iraq, Patriot Act, Rumsfeld, the Surge and Karl Rove

Lugar (R-IN) - Led efforts against intelligence operations against foreign agents in the US

Martinez (R-FL) - Leaked the Schiavo memo, but otherwise does not fit the pattern

McCain (R-AZ) - Back stabbings too numerous to count

Specter (R-PA) - Ditto. From “Scottish Law” onward

Voinovich (R-OH) - Led charge against John Bolton and the Surge

All of these Senators are going to be hurt by taking a position on the wrong side of this issue, and all of them, except Mel Martinez, have been thorns in President Bush’s side for a long, long time.

One has to ask oneself, cui bono? Who benefits? I submit to you that the biggest beneficiary of this debacle is none other than President George W. Bush himself.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bush; humor; illegals; thisisajokeright; vanity
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To: jebeier

I just keep thinking that people say don’t play poker with W.


21 posted on 06/08/2007 12:23:41 PM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: jebeier
I think all my ideas deserve greater exposure, of course.

As unlikely as it may be that you're right, I find myself hoping that you are. It's very sad to think of the more likely reason for it: that an elitist GWB just doesn't give a flip what the country wants.

22 posted on 06/08/2007 12:23:48 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: jebeier

Intentional or not, I do wonder how many people on the left were against SB1348 merely because Pres. Bush was for it.


23 posted on 06/08/2007 12:23:55 PM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Demands, marches and media sob stories diminish my compassion.)
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To: dirtboy

It was the closest thing he did to unite the GOP since he invaded Iraq. Intentionally or not.


24 posted on 06/08/2007 12:23:58 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jebeier
Just like signing CFR and the Prescription Drug Bill were strategery?

To paraphrase, never ascribe to strategery that which can be explained by stupidity.

25 posted on 06/08/2007 12:24:11 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: jebeier
Oh no, make no mistake about it, Bush wants this.

I thought perhaps they are slipping something under the table while we are all focused on this.

Also, everything a politician does is "strategy".

26 posted on 06/08/2007 12:24:32 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: conserv8ive1
Bush and Co. have made a living off being misunderestimated for a long, long time. When everybody is calling them stupid is the time to look for the hidden brilliance.

But this might just be too stupid for any brilliance to be there at all. Hard to say...

28 posted on 06/08/2007 12:24:52 PM PDT by jebeier (If my neighbor stole my newspaper since 1986, can I to believe him when he says he'll stop tomorrow?)
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To: jebeier

“If it is strategery, it is exceptionally subtle and devious, and would be a masterpiece. But they really couldn’t possibly be that clever, could they?”

Nope, not a chance.


29 posted on 06/08/2007 12:25:17 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Amnesty alone didn't kill the GOP - socialism did long ago. The stench you smell now is it's corpse.)
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To: conserv8ive1
Bush made clear what he wanted a long time ago and quite frankly he and Rove aren’t that smart.

bears repeating. Bush wants amnesty for 20+ million illegals (& their families...). Rove is NO genius at all.

30 posted on 06/08/2007 12:25:26 PM PDT by sand88
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To: jebeier

Amnesty and Open Borders are just the necessary next steps.

http://canada.usembassy.gov/content/can_usa/northamericancommunity_TF_final.pdf


31 posted on 06/08/2007 12:26:29 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: NittanyLion

CFR doubled hard money. The drug bill was stated to be preventive.


32 posted on 06/08/2007 12:26:49 PM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Gideon Reader
No Way! He is simply NOT that clever, nor is anyone on his staff that far seeing or Macevellian.

I dunno, though. The victory of Sarkozy must have been a powerful example to them. They are sitting there on a pile of lemons, and have to find some way to make lemonade.

And things are beginning to look a little bit more like lemonade for the Republicans.

33 posted on 06/08/2007 12:26:52 PM PDT by jebeier (If my neighbor stole my newspaper since 1986, can I to believe him when he says he'll stop tomorrow?)
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To: jebeier

I have believe some of that has been LUCK.


34 posted on 06/08/2007 12:26:56 PM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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To: Gideon Reader
No Way! He is simply NOT that clever, nor is anyone on his staff that far seeing or Macevellian.

I dunno, though. The victory of Sarkozy must have been a powerful example to them. They are sitting there on a pile of lemons, and have to find some way to make lemonade.

And things are beginning to look a little bit more like lemonade for the Republicans.

35 posted on 06/08/2007 12:26:56 PM PDT by jebeier (If my neighbor stole my newspaper since 1986, can I to believe him when he says he'll stop tomorrow?)
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To: jebeier

“can I to believe him” that makes my head hurt :)


36 posted on 06/08/2007 12:27:15 PM PDT by isom35
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To: jebeier
maybe they are just that craven

They are.

What is interesting is how McCain and the rest of the idiot pro-amnesty Republicans have exposed themselves on this issue. It is almost as though they don't talk to any middle class people in their home states any more.
37 posted on 06/08/2007 12:27:19 PM PDT by cgbg (A cigar a day keeps the liberals away.)
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To: jebeier

This amnesty uproar has at least one positive side. How much have you heard about the surge strategy in Iraq? I’m positive this wasn’t Bush’s intention, but unintended consequences can be good.


38 posted on 06/08/2007 12:27:27 PM PDT by 50mm (la prensa dos en traducir mi línea de etiqueta al inglés)
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To: jebeier

I don’t believe so - the president indicated he wanted to something with immigration a year or two before he was elected, particularly the “guest worker” aspect. 9/11 put it all on the backburner but the ‘06 election allowed the rats to get it fron and center again.


39 posted on 06/08/2007 12:27:44 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: jebeier
Specter (R-PA) - Ditto. From “Scottish Law” onward

Why did Bush support Specter over Toomey?? your theory is a poor attempt to portray Rove, et al as political wizards. They are like most politicians in Washington who ignore our Constitution. Rove is way over rated. He will never be in the league of Lee Atwater.

40 posted on 06/08/2007 12:28:23 PM PDT by sand88
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