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Was Amnesty Bill a Strategery? - VANITY
FR ^ | 6/9/06 | jebeier

Posted on 06/08/2007 12:18:29 PM PDT by jebeier

Perhaps this whole Amnesty business is a sublime and supremely cunning strategery.

Now, I know you all may want to dismiss the possibility out of hand, but bear with me for a moment...

By promoting this bill, in one fell swoop President Bush has managed to:

a) Get almost the entire Democrat caucus in the Senate to come out in favor of Amnesty, which is very unpopular,
b) Forever link his old arch-nemesis, John McCain, to this very unpopular bill,
c) Get somewhere close to 80% of Americans to oppose Ted Kennedy, and
d) Kill the possibility of comprehensive immigration reform for the forseeable future.

And all it has cost him is a few points in the public opinion polls, which is irrelevant because he will never run for office again.

Now the Republican field (except John McCain) can run against the President of their own party in 2008 by opposing him on this issue. The 800 pound Iraqi gorrilla has been replaced by a 1600 pound illegal immigration gorilla. And the vast majority of Republicans (besides John McCain) are in a much better position to debate on this issue.

Sarkozy just won in France by running against Chirac, who was the head of his own party. Perhaps the White House has taken that lesson to heart.

If it is strategery, it is exceptionally subtle and devious, and would be a masterpiece. But they really couldn't possibly be that clever, could they?

Or could they? One thing we know about President Bush is that he has a long memory and likes to get even with his enemies. Look at the seven Republican Senators who are going to come out on the down side of this deal:

Graham (R-SC)- Led efforts to extend habeus corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees. Member of Gang of 14

Hagel (R-NE) - Led charges against Iraq, Patriot Act, Rumsfeld, the Surge and Karl Rove

Lugar (R-IN) - Led efforts against intelligence operations against foreign agents in the US

Martinez (R-FL) - Leaked the Schiavo memo, but otherwise does not fit the pattern

McCain (R-AZ) - Back stabbings too numerous to count

Specter (R-PA) - Ditto. From “Scottish Law” onward

Voinovich (R-OH) - Led charge against John Bolton and the Surge

All of these Senators are going to be hurt by taking a position on the wrong side of this issue, and all of them, except Mel Martinez, have been thorns in President Bush’s side for a long, long time.

One has to ask oneself, cui bono? Who benefits? I submit to you that the biggest beneficiary of this debacle is none other than President George W. Bush himself.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bush; humor; illegals; thisisajokeright; vanity
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To: jebeier

Fredo, never take sides against the family.
Now you’re not a brother, not a friend . . .
you’re nothing to me.


41 posted on 06/08/2007 12:29:10 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: jebeier

Maybe you should offer your services to the WH. ;)


42 posted on 06/08/2007 12:29:20 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Also, everything a politician does is "strategy".

One should not confuse "strategy" with "strategery". They are two very different things.

43 posted on 06/08/2007 12:29:46 PM PDT by jebeier (If my neighbor stole my newspaper since 1986, can I to believe him when he says he'll stop tomorrow?)
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To: NittanyLion
To paraphrase, never ascribe to strategery that which can be explained by stupidity.

A paraphrase of one of my favorite tag lines... Never ascribe to evil intent that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Who said that, originally?

Anyway, the reason that I am thinking this way is that mere stupidity is not adequate to explain the action. The White House had to know that this thing would go down in flames. They could not possibly be that out of touch.

44 posted on 06/08/2007 12:32:11 PM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to evil intent that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: NittanyLion
To paraphrase, never ascribe to strategery that which can be explained by stupidity.

You nailed it in the simplest terms. Wonderfully stated.

45 posted on 06/08/2007 12:32:59 PM PDT by sand88
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To: jebeier
"Get somewhere close to 80% of Americans to oppose Ted Kennedy"

More like "Get somewhere like 84% of Americans to oppose President Bush".

46 posted on 06/08/2007 12:33:27 PM PDT by TommyDale (Rudy Giuliani’s candidacy is fading faster than an abortionist’s conscience.)
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To: jebeier

The possibility crossed my mind.


47 posted on 06/08/2007 12:34:09 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: jebeier
No.

Bush campaigned in 2000 and 2004 on doing exactly something like this, to solve the "immigration" problem "compassionately".

We need to keep a close eye on whether the Dims will try for an AWB renewal. GWB has also campaigned to betray us on assault weapons as well and we should be prepared for it.
48 posted on 06/08/2007 12:34:13 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: 50mm
This amnesty uproar has at least one positive side. How much have you heard about the surge strategy in Iraq?

Exactly. The 1600 pound Amnesty Gorilla trumps the 800 pound Iraq Gorrila, every time.

49 posted on 06/08/2007 12:34:51 PM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to evil intent that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Founding Father; jebeier
Bush’s comments about those “regular” folks that opposed the bill showed his true feelings.

Plus his comments of a couple years ago referring to the Minutemen as "vigilantes," his refusal to order the borders sealed following the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, and his longtime (and often hostile) opposition to every congressman (especially Tancredo) who's been tough on illegal aliens.

The only "strategery" here is one that has been in employed by transnationalists for quite a while now -- flood America with the third-world with the intent of creating an immense/permanent dependent class.

50 posted on 06/08/2007 12:35:15 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: jebeier

ROVE YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!!!


51 posted on 06/08/2007 12:35:32 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: jebeier

Was Harriet Myers (sp?) strategery? No. We got a good result because we said NO. Hopefully the same will apply here. I wouldn’t put money on it, but existing law is better than the amnesty plan proposed by the Senate.

“Where’s the wall?”


52 posted on 06/08/2007 12:36:19 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: jebeier
By promoting this bill, in one fell swoop President Bush has managed to:
Yeah, he's one smart dude ...

53 posted on 06/08/2007 12:36:33 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: sageb1
Maybe you should offer your services to the WH. ;)

I am expecting a Private Reply any minute now...

54 posted on 06/08/2007 12:36:42 PM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to evil intent that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Mike Darancette

LOL, I was waiting on that...


55 posted on 06/08/2007 12:36:57 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: dirtboy

Bingo!


56 posted on 06/08/2007 12:38:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: jebeier

Bush hopes to revive immigration bill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1847182/posts

I wish that traitor would stop with the goddamn “Stratergery,” he’s going to destroy the country if he keeps being such a flipping genius.


57 posted on 06/08/2007 12:39:23 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Amnesty alone didn't kill the GOP - socialism did long ago. The stench you smell now is it's corpse.)
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To: oh8eleven

Harriet Miers... That’s hitting below the belt.

President Bush has always had a tendency to cronyism.

OTOH, the Miers debacle led to an ignition of the base and the elevation of Roberts to the Supreme Court, which was a very good thing, indeed.


58 posted on 06/08/2007 12:39:52 PM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to evil intent that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: jebeier

This will end up ripping up more than a few Democrats and RINOs before it is over. I can see a lot of moonbats buying that it is a secret Rovian strategery. Let them stock up on tinfoil.


59 posted on 06/08/2007 12:40:52 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Mr. Mojo
Plus his comments of a couple years ago referring to the Minutemen as "vigilantes,"

I remember when he stated such. I was quite taken aback by such a disgusting thing to say. We really need a candidate who will make securing our border a top priority. I know Hunter would do such, I hope Fred increases his toughness on this issue.

60 posted on 06/08/2007 12:43:17 PM PDT by sand88
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