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Was Amnesty Bill a Strategery? - VANITY
FR ^ | 6/9/06 | jebeier

Posted on 06/08/2007 12:18:29 PM PDT by jebeier

Perhaps this whole Amnesty business is a sublime and supremely cunning strategery.

Now, I know you all may want to dismiss the possibility out of hand, but bear with me for a moment...

By promoting this bill, in one fell swoop President Bush has managed to:

a) Get almost the entire Democrat caucus in the Senate to come out in favor of Amnesty, which is very unpopular,
b) Forever link his old arch-nemesis, John McCain, to this very unpopular bill,
c) Get somewhere close to 80% of Americans to oppose Ted Kennedy, and
d) Kill the possibility of comprehensive immigration reform for the forseeable future.

And all it has cost him is a few points in the public opinion polls, which is irrelevant because he will never run for office again.

Now the Republican field (except John McCain) can run against the President of their own party in 2008 by opposing him on this issue. The 800 pound Iraqi gorrilla has been replaced by a 1600 pound illegal immigration gorilla. And the vast majority of Republicans (besides John McCain) are in a much better position to debate on this issue.

Sarkozy just won in France by running against Chirac, who was the head of his own party. Perhaps the White House has taken that lesson to heart.

If it is strategery, it is exceptionally subtle and devious, and would be a masterpiece. But they really couldn't possibly be that clever, could they?

Or could they? One thing we know about President Bush is that he has a long memory and likes to get even with his enemies. Look at the seven Republican Senators who are going to come out on the down side of this deal:

Graham (R-SC)- Led efforts to extend habeus corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees. Member of Gang of 14

Hagel (R-NE) - Led charges against Iraq, Patriot Act, Rumsfeld, the Surge and Karl Rove

Lugar (R-IN) - Led efforts against intelligence operations against foreign agents in the US

Martinez (R-FL) - Leaked the Schiavo memo, but otherwise does not fit the pattern

McCain (R-AZ) - Back stabbings too numerous to count

Specter (R-PA) - Ditto. From “Scottish Law” onward

Voinovich (R-OH) - Led charge against John Bolton and the Surge

All of these Senators are going to be hurt by taking a position on the wrong side of this issue, and all of them, except Mel Martinez, have been thorns in President Bush’s side for a long, long time.

One has to ask oneself, cui bono? Who benefits? I submit to you that the biggest beneficiary of this debacle is none other than President George W. Bush himself.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bush; humor; illegals; thisisajokeright; vanity
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To: jebeier
I was merely offering an alternative explaination for what seems to be a very, very stupid move on the White House’s part.

Sometimes things are what they seem to be. And in this case I think it's nothing more than the latest in a collection of bone-headed moves on the part of the administration.

81 posted on 06/08/2007 1:41:52 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: jebeier
I, for one, have never underestimated George Bush, and find your theory quite plausible.

He looks far down the road and sees what actions his opponents are likely to do and plans for it. He doesn’t dissuade his opponents action but lets them dig their own grave until they can no longer back track, they are in too deep.

Iraq and the WOT is one and immigration another and the Harriet Myers nomination was true genius.

IMO.

82 posted on 06/08/2007 1:43:39 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: pissant
“It was the closest thing he did to unite the GOP since he invaded Iraq. Intentionally or not.”

I don’t know, pissant. I think mostly it just exposed the dark side of the GOP. Americans of all creeds and political affiliations came out to protest this mess of a bill.

83 posted on 06/08/2007 1:52:20 PM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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To: jebeier

I think the words “strategery” and “magnificent bastard” have been rendered redundant as of November 2006.


84 posted on 06/08/2007 1:53:38 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: jebeier

Not a bad theory except for the reports that Bush plans to revive the bill next month. If your theory were true and the damage to the Democrats and McCain were already done there would be no need to do so. Nope, Bush believes he’s right and he’s willing to sink the Republican party to get his way.


85 posted on 06/08/2007 2:08:47 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: saganite

GWB is going to do a lot of damage before he is out of office. Nothing that we should have not already known...NAU is the goal, IMO.


86 posted on 06/08/2007 2:14:55 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: jebeier

I thought this same thing last year during the first round in the senate. Now, I do not believe it for a minute.


87 posted on 06/08/2007 2:15:39 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: jebeier

His push for Mel Martinez as head of the G.O.P. asys you are nuts.


88 posted on 06/08/2007 3:07:53 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: jebeier

I would guess you are a Bush man and trying to find a saving grace for this immigration crap but, sorry, there is no excuse. He didn’t have a grand plan except to legalize millions of unlawful aliens who should be headed home, where ever home may be, it certainly isn’t here. Bush has touted this amnesty since he was elected in 2000 but no one paid much attention to it until he decided to make it his legacy.


89 posted on 06/08/2007 3:19:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: johnny7
President Bush is a lame duck. Why would anyone who has gone this far cave? If anything this will embolden the opposition. Keep vigilant but I believe its dead.

Now maybe Duncan Hunter can continue to raise a stink over the fact that a previous bill to build 850 miles of border fence that got 85 votes in the Senate and the President signed has not been honored and tell the President to honor that and then we will talk. We built the Hoover Dam we can do this.

90 posted on 06/08/2007 3:37:32 PM PDT by nativist (Weigh into them!)
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To: jebeier

Conservative are the only Strategists left in the GOP. The rest are fat, dumb, happy, and bought and paid for by special interests.


91 posted on 06/08/2007 3:46:42 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Defeat the traitor McCain for President. Job #1.)
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To: jebeier

Is that you, Karl?


92 posted on 06/08/2007 3:49:27 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If you're a FREDNECK and you know it, clap your hands!...and DONATE!)
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To: muawiyah
Rove's still scratching his head and "W" wonders today if Putin tried to poison him at dinner yesterday.

Not funny, but ROTFL.

93 posted on 06/08/2007 3:55:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If you're a FREDNECK and you know it, clap your hands!...and DONATE!)
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To: greyfoxx39
Couldn't help it. The opportunity was creating itself. Those who were really up on the news knew all about "W"'s tummy problems this morning.

Wonder if the Secret Service checked his stool with a geiger counter?!

94 posted on 06/08/2007 4:00:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jebeier
Some peoples capacity for self-delusion is astounding.
95 posted on 06/08/2007 4:13:29 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: jebeier
I don't normally dis a brother or sister Freeper. And I won't here.

But I don't think that's where Bush is going. He's lost so many of us now, and with a year or so left to go, I think he is doing someone else's bidding.

This may kill the GOP, but it may also create a new Reagan Conservative party.

96 posted on 06/08/2007 4:38:06 PM PDT by CT (http://www.imwithfred.com)
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To: jebeier

Good job of finding the pony in that pile of horse manure Ronald Reagan used to joke about. The chances of your pony being real are about as great as the hopeful little boy’s who felt there had to be a pony in there somewhere. Sorry, it ain’t so.


97 posted on 06/08/2007 4:38:51 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: jebeier
Here's another idea: they're trying to avoid a lawsuit.
98 posted on 06/08/2007 4:41:18 PM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy will always be an enemy.)
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To: jebeier
Interesting.
People certainly did get involved in a discussion on this issue. When Bush brought up his guest worker program 3 years ago, nobody paid attention.
A year ago, it seemed the illegal immigrants held the upper hand.
99 posted on 06/08/2007 4:46:24 PM PDT by syriacus ("...had the US troops remained [in S. Korea in 1949], there would have been no [Korean] War")
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To: jebeier
One should not confuse "strategy" with "strategery". They are two very different things.

Yes, one's a word commonly used in the English Language, the other is gutter gibberish. Blackbird.

100 posted on 06/08/2007 4:56:06 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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