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Hillary Clinton: Iím Not a Liberal
newsmax.com ^ | Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:44 a.m. EDT

Posted on 07/24/2007 10:43:57 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton ran away from the "liberal” tag during Monday night’s Democratic debate, claiming instead that she is a "progressive.”

Early on in the CNN/YouTube-sponsored debate, a California resident posed these questions on his video: "Mrs. Clinton, how would you define the word ‘liberal’? And would you use this word to describe yourself?”

Hillary answered: "You know, it is a word that originally meant that you were for freedom, that you were for the freedom to achieve, that you were willing to stand against big power and on behalf of the individual.

"Unfortunately, in the last 30, 40 years, it has been turned up on its head and it's been made to seem as though it is a word that describes big government, totally contrary to what its meaning was in the 19th and early 20th century.

"I prefer the word ‘progressive,’ which has a real American meaning, going back to the progressive era at the beginning of the 20th century.

"I consider myself a modern progressive, someone who believes strongly in individual rights and freedoms, who believes that we are better as a society when we're working together and when we find ways to help those who may not have all the advantages in life get the tools they need to lead a more productive life for themselves and their family.

"So I consider myself a proud modern American progressive, and I think that's the kind of philosophy and practice that we need to bring back to American politics.”

CNN host Anderson Cooper said: "So you wouldn't use the word ‘liberal,’ you'd say ‘progressive.’ He then asked former Sen. Mike Gravel: "Are you a liberal?”

Gravel replied: "I wouldn't use either word” – and changed the subject.

The liberal group Americans for Democratic Action gave Hillary a 95 percent "liberal quotient” last year, among the highest ratings in the Senate.


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KEYWORDS: clinton; democrats; elections; hillary; liberals
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Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle.

1 posted on 07/24/2007 10:44:00 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
She would have an easier time convincing me she isn’t a woman.
2 posted on 07/24/2007 10:45:16 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Not a liberal? Admits to “progressive?” Thus, she is a homosexual socialist-Marxists then if she is progressive.


3 posted on 07/24/2007 10:45:44 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Jorge Bush & his Marxist's Dim friends are enemies of the Republic with their amnesty Bill.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

We know she’s not really a liberal...she’s an out and out Marxist.


4 posted on 07/24/2007 10:46:04 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: InvisibleChurch
You set your sights to high, groveling rats is a more accurate a descriptive.
5 posted on 07/24/2007 10:46:42 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: InvisibleChurch

She’s a socialist. If she had any guts, she’d come right out and say it.


6 posted on 07/24/2007 10:46:44 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This space left intentionally blank)
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To: Jeff Head

Aren’t all Marxists liberals?


7 posted on 07/24/2007 10:47:42 AM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Liberals run like scared rats (no pun intended) from the label 'liberal'.

Conservatives wear the label 'conservative' like a badge-of-honor!!!

Enough said.

8 posted on 07/24/2007 10:47:48 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: Ben Mugged

She would have a much easier time convincing me she isn’t human.....

It’s ridiculous the extent to which the ‘RATs are allowed to worm and squirm their way out from under the ‘liberal’ label — the only sense in which any of the current ‘RATs is not a liberal is the extent to which many of them are RADICAL leftists, socialist statists well to the left of any traditional ‘liberals’......

btw, ‘progressive’ is the term much in vogue with all sorts of avowed socialists and communists who eschew those labels due to the political embarrassments of a century and more of leftist hellholes ruining the ‘progressive’ wet dream.


9 posted on 07/24/2007 10:48:53 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

But I’m not a liberal, I’m not! And these are not my cankles, they’re false ones!


10 posted on 07/24/2007 10:49:06 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

“Progressive” is a euphemism for communist.


11 posted on 07/24/2007 10:49:36 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Where is the keeper of the BS meter when you need him/ her?


12 posted on 07/24/2007 10:50:27 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: InvisibleChurch
Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton tried to impose socialist government Health-care upon the American people.

This and their tax raises show that the Clintons like practically all Democrats are big government liberals/Socialists. But the liberal media repeats the big lie that Hillary and the Democrats are “moderates” or where most Americans are. Most Americans are conservatives because we Americans believe in smaller government, limited government, freedom, and lower taxes and not in the big all powerful government that Democrats believe in.

13 posted on 07/24/2007 10:50:39 AM PDT by Democrat_media (If there is a need the free market will produce it. So what do we need gov for(only 3 things))
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To: InvisibleChurch
...Hillary Clinton: I’m Not a Liberal ...

She is not a liberal; she is a socialist.

14 posted on 07/24/2007 10:50:59 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: InvisibleChurch

add "Hillary is not a Liberal"

15 posted on 07/24/2007 10:51:01 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Labels mean nothing. Actions define you. Hillarycare. Need I say more?
16 posted on 07/24/2007 10:51:01 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: RetiredArmy

“I am not a liberal! And my husband did not have relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky!” So there!


17 posted on 07/24/2007 10:51:01 AM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: InvisibleChurch
She thought the question was, "would you describe yourself as a lesbian?"...


18 posted on 07/24/2007 10:51:51 AM PDT by pookie18
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To: Ben Mugged

Actually, millions of American liberals will accept her explanation of not being “a liberal”. They know she is bluffing.


19 posted on 07/24/2007 10:51:59 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

She’s not a Liberal. She’s a commie-pinko, Marxist-Stalinist totalitarian.


20 posted on 07/24/2007 10:52:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Inquisitive1

She’s really not anything — just for HRC, whatever works.


21 posted on 07/24/2007 10:52:56 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: beethovenfan

You are right. Progressive is another “code” word for communist. During the early 1950’s (the “red” scare in Hollywood), there was a “progressive” party flourishing in those days.


22 posted on 07/24/2007 10:53:00 AM PDT by auto power
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To: InvisibleChurch

Yeah... and my bowel movements smell like Chanel No 5...


23 posted on 07/24/2007 10:53:14 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: InvisibleChurch

‘scuse me, I might audibly fart from laughing so hard.


24 posted on 07/24/2007 10:54:37 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Hillary Clinton: I’m Not a Liberal

OK, She's for socialized medicine. She's anti-gun. She's for increased taxes, bigger government, and more government spending. She's pro abortion, SHe's for Mexican amnesty. So where are her non liberal positions?

25 posted on 07/24/2007 10:54:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: InvisibleChurch

26 posted on 07/24/2007 10:54:52 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: InvisibleChurch

27 posted on 07/24/2007 10:55:04 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: InvisibleChurch
Well I emailed the old girl and told her I agreed with her that she is not a liberal but she is a communist. I said most of what she has to say comes straight out of the communist manifesto. I felt that it would be nice if she would admit that she is a communist and that way the voters can choose to vote for a commie or not.
28 posted on 07/24/2007 10:55:26 AM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: InvisibleChurch

She’s not a liberal. She’s a socialist.


29 posted on 07/24/2007 10:55:33 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Jeff Head

Bingo!


30 posted on 07/24/2007 10:55:44 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: RatRipper

31 posted on 07/24/2007 10:55:49 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

As Rush says...you’re Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit.


32 posted on 07/24/2007 10:57:00 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: RatRipper

33 posted on 07/24/2007 10:57:38 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Stop the invasion. Secure the borders now.)
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To: NoBullZone
She must have been awake when she said this:

If hillary is awake,

hillary is lying

(I stole that.)


34 posted on 07/24/2007 10:58:02 AM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: beethovenfan
“Progressive” is a euphemism for communist.

Absolutly true and historically verifiable.

David Horowitz has an autobiography that is outstanding that explains this very well.

Horowitz, when younger, was the editor of Ramparts and a leader in the new-left. He left when he eventually saw the corruption that led to murder and the excusing of it. He re-thought his entire world view and is now a stauch conservative.

In that book he tells of growing up in the communist movement with his parents who were closet communists in the NY Teachers Union.

When the truth of Stalin's evil was finally faced by the communists themselves, they told David that the new party line was to speak of themselves always as Progressives, instead of liberals since "liberal" was seen as to open to allignment with communism.

They stole the term from earlier, unrealized agraian movements of the midwest.

So, when we read that term we must understand that communists in the US decided in the sixties to begin to use it to hide their true alignment and understand it in that sense.

35 posted on 07/24/2007 10:58:12 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
She’s a collectivist.
36 posted on 07/24/2007 10:59:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Doesn’t matter what she wants to call it. She is a socialist liberal.


37 posted on 07/24/2007 10:59:31 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Well, if she is done using the term "liberal" can we wash it off (or maybe dry clean it) and return it to it's pre-FDR meaning of "promoting liberty" rather than the FDR meaning of "not quite as totalitarian as Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin".

And remember when she uses the term "progressive" it means "ever increasing" like cancer being a progressive disease.

38 posted on 07/24/2007 10:59:36 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: RatRipper
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39 posted on 07/24/2007 11:00:10 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Okay, Hill...you’re not a liberal.

You’re a lying, theiving, criminal, murdering, philandering, Marxist-loving, America-hating bat-faced witch...but you’re not a liberal.


40 posted on 07/24/2007 11:00:22 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"You know, it is a word that originally meant that you were for freedom, that you were for the freedom to achieve, that you were willing to stand against big power and on behalf of the individual.

"Unfortunately, in the last 30, 40 years, it has been turned up on its head and it's been made to seem as though it is a word that describes big government, totally contrary to what its meaning was in the 19th and early 20th century.

Well, there's a good reason for that. It's because liberals, through the policies they have pushed, have redefined the term.

This wasn't exactly a stellar moment for the smartest woman in the world.

41 posted on 07/24/2007 11:00:23 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Of course she isn't. Liberal is way too far right for her......
42 posted on 07/24/2007 11:01:40 AM PDT by b4its2late (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle.

Well if mankind are cattle then Hillary must be 'Moo Tse-Tongue'.

43 posted on 07/24/2007 11:01:46 AM PDT by golas1964 (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: InvisibleChurch

“Progressive”...that’s what Jane Fonda, and all of the counter-culture Commies, called themselves back in the sixties, including Hilly and Billy. Progressive is worse than Liberal, if possible.


44 posted on 07/24/2007 11:01:50 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: InvisibleChurch

Socialism, is not liberalism


45 posted on 07/24/2007 11:01:56 AM PDT by thinking
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To: InvisibleChurch

46 posted on 07/24/2007 11:02:00 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG (Apparently my former party considers me an "ugly nativist".)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

And i may fart with skid from the two of use.


47 posted on 07/24/2007 11:03:54 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: InvisibleChurch

Definition of “liberal” - someone who is generous...with your money.


48 posted on 07/24/2007 11:04:25 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: InvisibleChurch

For once, she is right. She’s not a liberal. She’s a Godless Communinistic Marxist with delusion of deity grandeur.


49 posted on 07/24/2007 11:04:40 AM PDT by Maigrey (The wand chooses the wizard, as much as the wizard chooses the wand... Mr. Ollivander)
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To: Doomonyou; Arrowhead1952
I nominate both of you the “keepers of the bs meters”!
50 posted on 07/24/2007 11:04:47 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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