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Researcher's Say Italy's 5,000-Year-Old Iceman Died From Head Trauma, Not Arrow (Oetzi)
IHT ^ | 8-28-2007

Posted on 08/29/2007 9:26:19 AM PDT by blam

Researchers say Italy's 5,000-year-old Iceman died from head trauma, not arrow

The Associated PressPublished: August 28, 2007

ROME, Italy: Researchers studying Iceman, the 5,000-year-old mummy found frozen in the Italian Alps, have come up with a new theory for how he died, saying he died from head trauma, not by bleeding to death from an arrow.

Just two months ago, researchers in Switzerland published an article in the Journal of Archaeological Science saying the mummy — also known as Oetzi — had died after the arrow tore a hole in an artery beneath his left collarbone, leading to massive loss of blood, shock and heart attack.

But radiologists, pathologists and other researchers, using new forensic information and CAT scans, said Tuesday they believed that the blood loss from the arrow wound only made Oetzi lose consciousness. They believe he died either by hitting his head on a rock when he passed out or because his aggressor attacked him again with a blow to the head.

The researchers presented their findings Monday night at the Institute for Mummies and the Iceman at the European Academy in Bolzano, a research institution. The mummy institute was launched in July to coordinate research into Oetzi, who is housed in the nearby South Tyrol Archaeological Museum.

In a statement Tuesday, the academy said the findings reopened the debate over Oetzi's cause of death, particularly since they took into account the rather unnatural way in which his body was found: face down, with his left arm across his chest.

The researchers believe the Iceman fell over backward, but was then turned over onto his stomach by his aggressor who then pulled out the arrow shaft while leaving the arrowhead imbedded in Oetzi's shoulder.

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To: 50sDad
So, he was beaten to death by a Cleric, not a Fighter?

So who is the bigger geek. You for saying that or me for having the first response of "well, not under the 3rd edition rules"?

21 posted on 08/29/2007 9:51:44 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Silky Pony, is that you?

lol good one!


23 posted on 08/29/2007 9:53:44 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Froufrou

That’s a pointed question!...........


24 posted on 08/29/2007 9:55:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Red Badger

This gives new meaning to the term “cold case”....


25 posted on 08/29/2007 9:56:40 AM PDT by tracer
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To: blam

thanks, Blam. I have put ‘ancient dna’ on my favorites.


26 posted on 08/29/2007 9:56:54 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: tracer

I wonder if his DNA is “cloneable”?.............


27 posted on 08/29/2007 10:00:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: blam; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam. [singing] If you knew oetzi like we know oetzi, oh, oh, oh what a guy...

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28 posted on 08/29/2007 10:13:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam
WAs he found in Gramercy PASS?

Suicide by Arkancide - linked to distant ancestors of the clintooon tribe.

29 posted on 08/29/2007 10:15:47 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: KarlInOhio; 50sDad

You’re both geeks, but you’re entitled to saving throws.


30 posted on 08/29/2007 10:16:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Bosco

LOLOLOLOL

Michael Moore will get right on it


31 posted on 08/29/2007 10:16:47 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Froufrou
An arrow isn’t head trauma?

Not when it doesn't hit the head :o)

32 posted on 08/29/2007 10:17:38 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: blam
A few observations:

Notice you never see Oetzi and Keith Richards in the same room together. Coincidence? I think not.

If Oetzi was killed by enemy fighters, why didn’t they take his copper axe, or his quiver? Hmmm, just like the movie Predator... except for the skinning of the corpse, the making trophies of man and all that other crap.

33 posted on 08/29/2007 10:17:43 AM PDT by afortiori
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv
Where’s Quincy when you really need him?.............

Hey! I was gonna think of that!

34 posted on 08/29/2007 10:18:29 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Expose yourself to new people, but make sure none of them are undercover cops.)
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To: tracer

Good one ... LOL


35 posted on 08/29/2007 10:19:23 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: blam

“In a statement Tuesday, the academy said the findings reopened the debate over Oetzi’s cause of death, particularly since they took into account the rather unnatural way in which his body was found: face down, with his left arm across his chest. The researchers believe the Iceman fell over backward, but was then turned over onto his stomach by his aggressor who then pulled out the arrow shaft while leaving the arrowhead imbedded in Oetzi’s shoulder.”

Its all just speculation masquarading as science. No one could have fallen with his arm like that... Utter BS.


36 posted on 08/29/2007 10:19:24 AM PDT by Hacklehead (I'm not here to make friends.)
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To: Monkey Face

Hey, your tagline tops everything else in the thread! ;’)


37 posted on 08/29/2007 10:21:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Monkey Face
Hey! I was gonna think of that!

LOL

I gotta remember to think of that retort...

38 posted on 08/29/2007 10:21:28 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: YOUGOTIT
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39 posted on 08/29/2007 10:22:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, August 26, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: afortiori

Because he was equipped with noob gear. A copper axe is only +17 offense although you could get 25 gold for it if you hauled it to Fibula.


40 posted on 08/29/2007 10:28:33 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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